EDITORIAL: Dear Marvel, Thanks For The Disney, But We Want dark and Gritty. Bring Us MARVEL KNIGHTS

EDITORIAL: Dear Marvel, Thanks For The Disney, But We Want dark and Gritty. Bring Us MARVEL KNIGHTS

With the Daredevil series upcoming what of the other recently acquired Marvel Properties? Will we not see movie treatments of Blade, Punisher, etc? Are they too grim and violent for the general audience? If not on the big screen, why not TV? Enter the Marvel Knights...

Editorial Opinion
By AontheheadStarontheChest - Jun 03, 2014 05:06 AM EST
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With the reacquistion of some fan favorites like Daredevil, Blade, Punisher etc. we were all hoping as fans that they would get the Marvel Movie treatment. This doesn't look like its happening soon. 
 

Kevin Feige - “We’re trying to figure out what to do with Daredevil now. Punisher could show up at one point. You know, once we get characters back into the Marvel fold we don’t want to do something right away, we want to do the smart thing at the smart time.”


So then we got Daredevil in the form of a new show on Netflix, but what about everyone else they got back? Fans all around are clamoring for a decent Marvel TV series as well as a gritter look into the MCU since they feel the MCU is too Disneyfied and meant for the General Audience ergo Families with Children.

My proposal is bring in the Marvel Knights as a series event consisting of 26 one hour episodes and put them on something like HBO or AMC. Not Netflix, as I don't think that many people subscribe to Netflix and may miss the shows entirely. It baffles me really, I really like Daredevil and I'm genuinely excited about the Defenders Series but I'm not sure its enough to get me to subscribe to an online television service just to see it. 

The usual lineup for the Marvel Knights would be Blade, Punisher, Daredevil and Ghost Rider. I propose the same line up except with Daredevil being replaced by Moon Knight.



Now the common thing with all these characters is that they're not your typical friendly neighborhood hero. Blade is a sword wielding vampire who kills vampires. Punisher is gun-toting anti hero who puts bullets in criminals. Moon Knight beats up thugs in the night like Batman but has got multiple personality issues. Ghost Rider is flaming bike rider possessed by a demon because of deal he made with the Devil.

For these reasons they should be on HBO or AMC or even FX. These have hosted succesful shows with large fanbases such as Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Sons of Anarchy, and FX will soon show the Guillermo Del Toro directed The Strain, which is based on a Vampire Horror novel.

Instead of going just to the usual route of introducing each character then having them team up at the end of the series, I would just like them to go and be at it already established and fighting crime. If the series gets enough interest after their first season then I say go solo and spring off 4 spin offs for each character.

With these characters, a darker side of the MCU can be explored without having to name drop or cameo the other characters/heroes established in the movies or Agents Of SHIELD. Simply just set in rural areas and small towns and have the timeline set between The Winter Soldier and Avengers 2, a time when most of the world would be more worried about HYDRA and SHIELD than some freak in a white cape, a flaming skeleton, a vampire, and a vigilante with a skull painted on his chest.

The main premise for the Marvel Knights would be: 4 crime fighting individuals travel across small towns tracking down an uknown mythical evil (also unknowingly and mistakenly tracking down eachother as each will be marked as monster by the general public) and ending up with a team up in Las Vegas against the true forces of evil.

Each protagnist's episode would be running in a timeline simultaneously to eachother and at first we start with Punisher.

Punisher (Think Grimm + Leverage)

We see him traveling through small buroughs of New York as he is more grounded and showing him taking down thugs and human traffickers.

He follows one of these human traffickers through the forests around New York till he gets to the more rural and mountainous areas.

He continues his search when he finds a lead on the traffickers while finding local reports of someone slaying women and children with a sword. He continues the search until at one point he comes across someone who is trafficking humans to consume. Punisher finds slain bodies with their heads chopped off and a bunch of freaks he simply just can't shoot and kill normally.

Enter Vampires...


But with a twist. These vampires turn back to their human form after being killed. And this whole time he's been blasting off vampire head shots and tracking down the murderer of the women and children vampires, he's actually been tracking down...

Blade. (Think a better version of True Blood + Buffy the Vampire Slayer + Everything good about the Blade Movies)

So enter Blade's side of the story and his parallel mini series. Blade has been following a lead of a new cult of Vampires right out of the backwoods and swapms in New Orleans. (Yes Cajun Vampires) They take anyone and everyone, men, women, children, addicts, bums, and anyone no one would miss right away right in the middle of Mardi Gras. Some they kept as drone Vampires to gather more bodies, and some they just shipped to Vampire Safehouses and Warehouses to feed off of.

He slays most of the Vampires no matter children or women, and the local police start hunting him down after he leaves a trail of human bodies. He was disgusted at this as he was killing people who were innocent and did the only thing he could, to slay all the Vampires that had turned. But Blade knew there was a lead Vampire ordering these cronies around. He had to keep searching.

He hears reports of a mortal human going around shooting up Vampires and that's where he meets up with Frank Castle the Punisher. Who was actually hot on his trail whilst he was hunting the same Vampires Blade was looking for.


First they would do the usual song and dance when two anti-heroes meet. 

 

  • Have a huge misunderstanding
  • Fight but find they are equally matched
  • Have some common enemies show up
  • Enemy of my Enemy is my friend

 

So they work together tracking down the lead Vampire who turns out to be Baron Blood in Las Vegas(they can have this in connection to Cap or any WW2 Marvel Related stories) .



They get outnumbered and cornered by all the Vampires in Sin CIty. Looks to be the end of Blade and Punisher, when Moon Knight and Ghost Rider Crash the party.

END FIRST HALF OF SEASON.









Part 2 Will deal with Ghost Rider and Moon Knight's stories running parallel with the events of the first half of the season.

It will also have that thematic arc of Punisher/Blade where each is hunting eachother as one is a Monster posing as a Man(Blade and Moon Knight), and the other is a Man becoming a Monster(Punisher and Ghost Rider).

Ghost Rider (Think Sons of Anarchy + Angel)

Ghost Rider will start off in Texas and him hunting down some demon worshipping cults in the deserts. This will be the Dannny Ketch version but already established as a demon hunthing spirit of Vengeance. He finds out that they've been sacrificing people and draining them of their blood. When he finds one of the supposed demons, he find out they're just Vampires and starts hunting them down anyway. Leading him right into a gang of Vampire Bikers.

 

 

Moon Knight (Think Dexter + Supernatural + some Arrow)

Moon Knight will be in Hollywood also tracking down a lead with Vampires stalking people at night in Clubs and rave parties in remote areas of the desert. All the while with Khonshu the Egyptian Spirit goading him on to be more ruthless with his kills.

The series will deal more about his split personalities and less on his mercenary background and origins. As he tracks down the killers we find him dealing with a biker gang of Vampires that he follows through the deserts into New Mexico. 





Moon Knight and Ghost Rider have a little fight, reconcile and head to Las Vegas where they track down the rest of the Vampires and Baron Blood. There they find Punisher and Blade alread amidst the Vampire Horde.

They fight alongside eachother and the Marvel Knights are born.


Hit the comments section to let me know what you think. And for any possible casting choices that you'd like to see. I might just write an article for that, but for another day.

I'd actually like to see Wesley Snipes and Thomas Jane back in their respective roles.






The setup for this Marvel Knights event would be 2 mini series contained within the 1 Season

First Mini Season Half

  • Punisher ( 6 episodes)
  • Blade (6 episodes)
  • Blade and Punisher meet up ( 1 episode - Mid Season Finale) with a cameo of Moon Knight and Ghost Rider
Second Mini Season Half
  • Ghost Rider ( 6 episodes)
  • Moon Knight ( 6 episodes)
  • The whole team together as a continuation of the finale (1 Episode)
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Pasto
Pasto - 6/3/2014, 6:09 AM
Lol, when you said 'dark and gritty' I didn't expect you to make THE WHOLE [frick]ING ARTICLE BLACK.
AontheheadStarontheChest
AontheheadStarontheChest - 6/3/2014, 6:12 AM
thanks SotoMan, I think it's the HTML getting messed up. Let me try and fix that.
Kurne
Kurne - 6/3/2014, 6:13 AM
Really rooting for Blade/Vamps in MCU. The idea is haunting because of the [light] universe already set up.
AontheheadStarontheChest
AontheheadStarontheChest - 6/3/2014, 6:19 AM
Haha, refresh the code wasn't updating. man this HTML editor is something, with great power comes great responsibility to screw it all up and make people blind!
NovaCorpsFan
NovaCorpsFan - 6/3/2014, 6:32 AM
I think Blade could be introduced on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. if they were to do a vampire story arc on the show.
Guido
Guido - 6/3/2014, 6:37 AM
I like the idea of this. I would like to see a few Marvel projects with a darker tone.
BoomTubeB
BoomTubeB - 6/3/2014, 6:41 AM
Ray Stevenson was the best punisher on film ! too bad war zone's storyline was shit!
yossarian
yossarian - 6/3/2014, 7:14 AM
I'm okay with what we have and what we will get.
phantom1527
phantom1527 - 6/3/2014, 7:21 AM
I'd rather see Blade go after more than just vampires. Blade is one of my favorite characters, but having him JUST fight vampires will get stale. Make him like a John Constantine where he's just a hunter of the supernatural in general
AontheheadStarontheChest
AontheheadStarontheChest - 6/3/2014, 7:28 AM
@phantom

I'd like that too, but the purpose of this was just to show one contained event. I'm sure if they gave him a full spinoff he'd be hunting many things that go bump in the night.
SuperbatSpider1003
SuperbatSpider1003 - 6/3/2014, 8:20 AM
My marvel knights line up woulld have Black Widow anddaredevil
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 6/3/2014, 8:34 AM
If I had to choose between getting a Ghost Rider tv series or wait for a live action film. I'll wait for the film. Doctor Strange coming I the MCU real soon, he opens the door for characters like Ghost Rider who could live on in cinema. Blade, Punisher and Moon Knight are made fit for tv. Ghost Rider can work easily as a stand alone film and could balance the lighter movies with something dark and more serious. Ala The Incredible Hulk in Phase One and Captain America: The Winter Soldier in Phase Two (technically, Phase Two has had dark movie already but not as dark because of a lack of balance between dramatic tension and humor).
Lhornbk
Lhornbk - 6/3/2014, 8:54 AM
Ok, I'm sorry but this whole idea of having vampires turn back into humans after they're killed is just lame. And Netflix has a whole lot more subscribers than you seem to realize. And, since what you're proposing would probably only appeal to Marvel fanboys who whine about wanting darker movies/series and maybe a small portion of general audiences who like cult shows, Netflix would be the logical place for this, if it ever happened, which it won't. (And don't start giving me nonsense about the success of Buffy and Angel and Walking Dead and Supernatural and so on. There is a big difference between those shows and what this would be-those shows are actually good.)
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 6/3/2014, 9:29 AM
I don't think a TV budget can do Ghost Rider's CGI justice and surely he'd be in his GR form for a lot of the time.
cipher
cipher - 6/3/2014, 10:22 AM
I'd honestly just prefer if Punisher gets his own series, and leave it at that. I mean, I've read the entirety of the Ennis run, so I've always wanted to see something like that. That's just me, though..

Good article, nonetheless.

:)
cipher
cipher - 6/3/2014, 10:23 AM
I am quite happy with what they've already decide on, though. DD's my one of my favourites, so I'm lookin' forward to that in particular.
Ranger14
Ranger14 - 6/3/2014, 10:23 AM
I can see the "dark & gritty" stuff for the Netflix series and Disney/Marvel has the money to pull it off just fine. Netflix isn't like doing regular network shows. We will get an indicator of what they can do when we get DD.
cipher
cipher - 6/3/2014, 10:24 AM
*decided on

Sigh. Caffeine is my fuel. I need my fuel. I need my booze-- err, my caffeine.
Pheezmatic
Pheezmatic - 6/3/2014, 10:47 AM
no offense but...


...kinda stopped reading when you said...

"Not Netflix, as I don't think that many people subscribe to Netflix and may miss the shows entirely. It baffles me really, I really like Daredevil and I'm genuinely excited about the Defenders Series but I'm not sure its enough to get me to subscribe to an online television service just to see it."

Wrong. A f*ck lot of people subscribe to Netflix. Hence why Blockbuster is no longer in business. And as for it not being enough to entice you to cough up the $8 bucks a month for NF? Ju Crazy! 40 hours of MCU action plus the thousands of movies that I can stream not just to my TV, but to my computer, tablet and phone?? ....you must not be a hardcore Marvel or cinema fan...gotta say...thanks to both NF and MRVL....thats more than enough for me to sign the f*ck up.
Trickwil
Trickwil - 6/3/2014, 10:48 AM
I think netflix is our best bet of getting these shows. There's a chance it could hit big and be on ABC but there's no way it will be in AMC or HBO just get over that all together. It would be on a channel owned by Disney, which mean ESPN or ABC family. And this isn't their style. That's why the netflix deal was made. I can see this happening in the future. Possibly even Netflix movies instead of TV shows. They would be part of the MCU the same way the Defenders characters will be.
Trickwil
Trickwil - 6/3/2014, 10:50 AM
@Pheezmatic-He's more willing to pay for HBO which is an extra 25 bucks a month though? Way more Netflix subscribers than HBO subscribers with even less oversight or ratings controls on Netflix.
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 6/3/2014, 12:04 PM
Just do a Midnight Sons movie

Dr strange, Blade, Ghost Rider, and Moon Knight


Punisher would work best on HBO or Netflix
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 6/3/2014, 12:22 PM
Cloak and Dagger NEEDS to happen.
It's a great concept for a TV show.
kong
kong - 6/3/2014, 1:15 PM
Nice ideas! I like it.
sikwon
sikwon - 6/3/2014, 2:56 PM
Disney =
Iron Man 1- ethnic cleansing scene (Tears of the Sun)

Incredible Hulk- gang rape scene (A Clock Work Orange)

Iron Man 2- drunken depression scene (Leaving Las Vegas)

Thor- killing an entire race (Enders Game)

The Avengers- attempted suicide (Fight Club)

Agents of Shield- half of a dismembered body (and an exposed brain!) (Silence of the Lambs)

My point is that if you pay attention there is plenty of dark in the MCU. Ive tried to think of scenes that compare to other scenes in movies without the graphic visuals. The MCU is Brite pretty lights with all sorts of terrible just under the surface. People are to easily fooled by the shiny. You aren't told "this is dark!" So you don't see it as dark. Marvel has done a masterful job at presenting extremely, I mean that (ethnic clensing!!), dark content in a way that people aren't cringing from it. Because of that they are able to put kids in the seats and still tell an adult story. One of people's biggest complaints about Man of Steel is that it's to dark for super man, that there was no joy in it. The MCU has managed to incorporate truly gritty content but present it to us as palatable. Go and watch the scene in Tears of the Sun ware the Seals rescue the villagers in the middle of an ethnic clensing. That is the same thing that was happening in IM1 when Tony first uses his armor in Gomera. The difference is they didn't show the violence in the same manner, but we know it was there. We are shown a child ripped from his mother's arms, a man put on his knees seconds away from being executed in front of his family. If that doesn't qualify as dark then I don't know what does. And if as a movie goer you can't see the real impact of that scene then you need to enlist, grab your gear and do a tour before it's to late. Scenes like that, that speak 1000 words without having to show us a woman with her beasts cut off still have impact. Just because it's shot in color, because it's not called a "darker take" by the director, people think it's all kid fair. When Banner talks about killing himself, that's serious. When Fury has a man raised from the dead, and the process is shown to involve reprogramming his brain and draining the fluid of a half alien body... I mean organs and intestines and all were hanging out. The presentation is what baffles you, the shiny lights and pretty colors. It's not the content.
DeusExSponge
DeusExSponge - 6/3/2014, 6:31 PM
I think we might get these series AFTER Phase 3, but who knows, maybe there will be Phases for the Netflix series and after the Defender series we get a build up towards Marvel Knights. Also I think it's all about which project they think is profitable and can be used to build towards the MCU. But hey, with Dr Strange getting a director maybe Marvel will expand the supernatural side of the MCU and begin to introduce these guys.
AontheheadStarontheChest
AontheheadStarontheChest - 6/3/2014, 6:36 PM

@trickwill and @pheez

you guys must be closed-minded first-world living people who don't understand that the internet is filled with people all around the world. see where I come from, HBO is free with dirt cheap cable but the internet here sucks for streaming.

And shows on HBO, AMC, FX etc get syndicated anyway on the regular channels.

and the reason why I'm not gonna be a Netflix subscriber isn't because I'm not "hardcore" enough, is because it's not readily available for all.

There are international Marvel Fans and this is what they'll get when they visit Netflix: Sorry, Netflix is not available in your country yet.









MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 6/4/2014, 1:25 AM
I like your ideas. I do agree that Moon Knight does need more love even though i'd prefer a film over a tv series. Captain America in a way was dark and gritty but it had a serious tone and it felt it was happening with in our own universe. If you bring that tone to each of those characters set to get there own netflix series then i'm sure it can work.
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