EDITORIAL: Why the Marvel Cinematic Universe is Kicking the Bejesus out of DC's Cinematic Universe!

EDITORIAL: Why the Marvel Cinematic Universe is Kicking the Bejesus out of DC's Cinematic Universe!

This is my personal opinion on why Marvel is beating DC in the ongoing war for Comic book movie silver screen supremacy!

Editorial Opinion
By Tittie - Jan 10, 2011 09:01 PM EST
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Source: ComicBookMovie.com

Here's the thing I want to mention first. I'm a pretty hardcore fan of Marvel, but there are a few heroes in DC I actually enjoy. I don't love all the characters...I don't even like some of them. But my opinion on characters is moot. This is my standpoint on why I think Marvel is putting the hurt on DC.

Marvel's Cinematic Universe
Right now, plans are in the works to make the 2012 release of The Avengers to be the biggest and best superhero movie ever created. You would think that DC's immediate answer to this news would be a Justice League of America movie. Think again.

For about the past 11 years, Marvel has been consistently putting at least one new movie out per year. Marvel is getting their properties and characters available to the world for mass consumption. This all started with the first Blade movie. For the record, I know the movies The Punisher, Howard the Duck, and the Captain America movies were made in the 80's and definitely pre-date it, but Blade really showed audiences that comics could legitimately be made into successful films.


Blade was released in 1998 and it spawned two eventual sequels in 2002 and 2004. Looking to capitalize on the success of their first big screen foray, Marvel wanted to put an even better franchise on the big screen, so they begun with X-Men. The first X-movie was a little under the radar, but audiences again responded to it and thus came two sequels in 2003 and 2006, with the eventual spin-off movie X-Men Origins: Wolverine in 2009.


2002 also put the superhero movie into high gear with the HUGE success of Spider-Man, a movie that again preceded 2 sequels, one in 2004, the second in 2007, and a reboot set for release in the next year or so. The next year, in 2003, Marvel released the Ang Lee directed Hulk and the darker toned DareDevil. Although not huge hits, Marvel again proved the more properties in the mainstream media, the better.


2004 saw the reboot of The Punisher, the sequel Spider-Man 2, and the threequel Blade: Trinity. In 2005, Marvel released Elektra, a spin-off of Jennifer Garner's character from DareDevil and a movie based off of their first family, the Fantastic Four, which was not up to par with fan expectations, but a sequel was made, and it garnered even worse reviews.


'06 was almost the end for comic book movies. X-Men: The Last Stand hit theaters and the world took a collective gasp at how awful this movie was. X3 wasn't the worst. The following year, not 1, but 3 stinkbombs left moviegoers in awe. Spider-Man 3 (which proved Peter Parker took dance lessons from Saturday Night Fever), Ghost Rider(which proved Nicolas Cage needs to keep his pointy, greasy nose out of comic movies), and Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer(which proved Galactus did not work that well as a cloud) truly weren't worth the wait.


But the following year...Marvel dropped two history-making blockbusters in our laps. Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are revered as two of the best comic book movies ever created. And, not only were they extraordinary standalone films, they also existed in the same cinematic universe, thus setting up the forthcoming Avengers movie.


X-Men Origins: Wolverine was released in '09 and was even worse than The Last Stand. A character that is usually slicing and dicing his way through enemies had a movie that was rated PG-13 and left a horrible taste in everyone's mouth...including Barakapool's. 2010's only release was Iron Man 2, the follow-up to the hit of '08. Although it was received with mixed reviews from both fans and critics alike, it definitely furthered the Avengers process.


2011 looks to be an epic year for Marvel fans, with Thor due out in May and The First Avenger: Captain America due out in July, we get closer to seeing Earth's Mightiest Heroes on the big screen.

Say what you want about Marvel. But for the past three decades, it seems that the only characters DC want to give the audiences is Batman and Superman. Marvel, on the other hand, have been consistently putting their franchises and characters out in public. Numerous movies have been made and are being made, while Marvel's new parent company Disney is putting wheels in motion for live-action Marvel television shows. Marvel may not make a killer block buster every single time, but neither has DC. With the exception of the upcoming Green Lantern movie this year, Bats and Supes have been the only DC heroes to hit the big screen. Let's all hope that eventually it changes within the next few years.

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ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 1/10/2011, 10:32 PM
I've got to agree with you. Marvel is doing something that has never been done before (at least I don't think it has) in creating a world and intertwining it's characters and movies. Never in the farthest reaches of my mind (which is a really long ways off) would I have ever expected to see multiple films and characters lead up to a team-up movie like The Avengers.

You have to give DC and Warner Brothers credit (and Christopher Nolan) for creating not only two of the best comic book movies ever, but two of the best films in the last decade...depending on who you ask. One can't help but wonder if DC is waiting to see how The Avengers plays out before they commit to given their characters screen time. Having said that, I think they are insane for not progressing with some of their characters: Wonder Woman, Flash, Teen Titans, etc. Whether or not you like the characters, you're almost guaranteed to turn a profit on them, as long as you keep the budget in check and not throw $265 million at one character like they did with Superman Returns

Nice work T!
TayDee
TayDee - 1/10/2011, 10:41 PM
If D.C wasn't so scared to try and experiment with other characters, we could've already had a justice league movie but hey as long as both companies make good CBM's I'll be satisfied.
ThreeBigTacos
ThreeBigTacos - 1/10/2011, 10:54 PM
@Taboo: will you marry me? lol

@ Tit: Good article man! I'd take Marvel over DC anyday (which is weird cuz i grew up loving Batman and Superman and then moved onto Spiderman and Ironman) I just wish ALL of marvel's movies shared the same universes.
CBK
CBK - 1/10/2011, 11:11 PM
This editorial is too biased and one-sided. You don't show DC's side of the equation at all.
CBK
CBK - 1/11/2011, 12:02 AM
How am I bashing? I just think it's unfair to say Marvel is beating DC (WHICH I AGREE WITH) but not even try and show DC's effort. I expected this editorial to contain not only the reason TIT believes what he does, but good, fair representation for both sides. So FTFO.
TayDee
TayDee - 1/11/2011, 12:05 AM
CBK - he says he likes a few DC characters but to me its just the fact that they had the rights to all of there characters for decades and only managed to get two superheroes on the big screen and while marvel is just getting there rights back in a matter of years they already have 3 movies out and two upcoming. Call it rushing but so far Marvel produced good quality movies, with the exception of IM2, and I think DC can do the same but there slacking.
CBK
CBK - 1/11/2011, 12:14 AM
I agree, but the fact that he spends 8 paragraphs with 21 pictures talking about Marvel, but only 1 paragraph with no pictures talking about DC makes it unfair. I agree that Marvel is beating DC, that's not what I'm discussing, I just came in expecting a fair analysis of both companies films, but instead got quite a bit of Marvel promotion with mostly DC bashing at the end. Unfair, at least a little bit.
TayDee
TayDee - 1/11/2011, 12:46 AM
CBK - well thats how some people get when there loyal fans to either company but the bottom line is that there arent even enough films from the two companies to even compare the two but one thing I will say is that DC does have a harder job trying to put there characters on film than marvel does.
Denn1s
Denn1s - 1/11/2011, 5:08 AM
even if some movies aren't that good, i still enjoy the shit outta them. when i was younger i would never think that a day will come when at least one cbm will be released per year. so i am glad that i am able to see some of my favorite heroes in live action, even if the script takes some liberties.
lokisilvertongue
lokisilvertongue - 1/11/2011, 6:14 AM
gaston@ i think he was goin for the mainstream universe characters n their movies, only reason i cn think of 2 leave those films out
WaylonJones
WaylonJones - 1/11/2011, 6:49 AM
Good write up Tit, You know i'm a DC guy but I have to agree Marvel is putting DC to shame on the movie front. Fun read. SOAL!!!!!!!
selinakyle
selinakyle - 1/11/2011, 6:51 AM
I love this snookums. Hopefully DC can focus on something else other than Supes and Bats. They screwed up with Jonah Hex.
nuck82
nuck82 - 1/11/2011, 6:55 AM
SOAL!! man i hate it wen you keep things like this away from me : P thats what pillow talk is for!

gaston you named some dc films but how many of those films were a main stream comic that dc put out under them, watchmen and v might be the only 2 good comics they turned into movies, even thowe i always watch constantine every time i see it on

dc still blows when it comes to movies, i would like to see them step it up to make more movies, i think everyone would, dc and marvel fans
Ethic
Ethic - 1/11/2011, 7:03 AM
@ Gaston
Great points man, they actually have been steadily making DC adaptations like the ones you listed.
In my opinion, Superman 1 and 2, Batman Begins, Dark Knight, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence and V for Vendetta are all phenomenal films and Marvel based films have yet to touch upon their quality minus maybe Iroman which really is excellent.
The superhero side of things needs to show face now though, but they're on their way with GL, Supes and Flash from the sounds of things.

Marvel are doing a good job but I'm hesitant to see all the films coming out so soon. The characters are brilliant and could've very well had trilogies or sequels in every one of them before the Avengers even came up, all the while maintaining that it is the same universe.
Assuming the Avengers is a success, imagine if the Avengers sequel isn't as good? That effects all the characters. But still, it'll be unmissable.
It's a brave road to take and it looks like it will be at least decent.
Angelus
Angelus - 1/11/2011, 7:24 AM
In the eyes of WB its not a contest at all. Yes, Marvel makes more movies no doubt(if that's what the contest is all about) but WB does NOT REALLY CARE about Disney. Its all economics. However, time will probably WB will probably show more DC superheroes.

BMP!
Philvis
Philvis - 1/11/2011, 7:32 AM
Why risk making comic book movies when you have a powerhouse like Harry Potter bringing in the bucks? While I wish DC would make the Flash, WW, Green Arrow, JLA, etc., I think they got spooked after the crap called Superman Returns. I'd rather them not rush a product out. I enjoy watching all comic book movies (don't read comic books), so I make a point to see all the bigger ones. The one area Marvel has disappointed me in, is trying to make the movies "realistic". They take out the fantasy element which I think is what makes up the actual comic books.

While Marvel may have DC beat with the shear number of movies they pump out, DC still has provided the best two comic book movies made, Batman Begins & The Dark Knight. DC does have the market on the animated films though. Marvel animated movies have been VERY dull compared to DC.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 1/11/2011, 7:40 AM
In relation to the title of the article, there is no DC universe to be kicked the bejesus out of.

A good write up, I enjoyed reading it, but the flip-side to that coin is this; Who has generated the most flops/disappointments; DC or Marvel?
soldier1
soldier1 - 1/11/2011, 7:43 AM
I'm gonna have to go with the majority of Marvel DOMINATING the big screen over DC. Batman and Superman are both great characters, but as was stated by a few DC concentrates too much on those 2 characters (though Batman was a huge success). DC shuld have kept Jonah Hex out of the scene atleast not yet and after the Superman Returns polls, IMO they should put that "reboot" on the backburner.
GL is a great way to start but in my opinion rather than going straight into yet ANOTHER Batman and Superman film. Instead I think that the sequence of events should be:
GL
Hawkman
TDK
Flash
WonderWoman
Aqua-man (MMH cameo)
THEN Superman!
Finally Justice League (where they add on Martian ManHunter)
ps....DC still kicks a$$ when it comes to animated movies though lol Deuces!
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 1/11/2011, 7:45 AM
Its unfair to say Marvel's Cinematic Universe is beating DC when MOST of the movies you listed were not made by MARVEL, and are NOT part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. just saying...

There might be way more movies out based on Marvel characters, but the only ones that have actually been made by MARVEL are Iron Man and Hulk at this point.
Ethic
Ethic - 1/11/2011, 7:48 AM
@ Philis
Yea dude I don't understand why people want to have all the main characters out in the next 3years it's nuts.

And I've been saying the same about the animated films, Marvel's have been total crap minus Hulk Vs Wolverine in my opinion. Whereas all of DC's are between good and amazing.

And in terms of animated shows, the 90's were brilliant for both companies but then DC made the only decent shows in the 00's until both companies started catering to younger kids. But Young Justice is brilliant from what we've seen.

Then there's graphic novels. I have yet to meet someone who places more Marvel graphic novels in their top 10 over DC's.

And with computer games, Batman: Arkham Asylum has brought comic based games into a new age, it's probably the best game I've ever played.
It's not as if DC is doing nothing so I hate when people make out that they're twiddling their thumbs.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 1/11/2011, 7:48 AM
Its clear to anyone that Marvel are pleasing comic fans more with their movie cross overs. And they have had a higher quantity of adaptations from their characters. But higher QUALITY? I get that we have Cap and Thor and The Avengers but we really don't know for certain what they will be like do we? As it stands now Marvel's best is hands down Iron Man, and the best Fox adap is probably X-Men 2, and then Sony's Spider-Man 2. Great movies. But do any of them compare to TDK, BB, or Watchmen for that matter? How about the Donner Superman films? We all have our different tatses/opinions but I don't think Marvel are kicking ass in terms of quality YET, just quantity.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 1/11/2011, 7:49 AM
@ CorndogBurglar - couldn't agree more with you mate.
Ethic
Ethic - 1/11/2011, 7:56 AM
@ Arminies

I'm not a DC fanboy, I've enjoyed plenty that Marvel has to offer across the board, i'm a supporter of the company. My responses are aimed at the people who go on about how DC sucks balls when they have been creating quality adaptions in different media.
And I didn't forget those films, I thought they were great but not on par with others.

You enjoy being patronizing?
MassExecutions
MassExecutions - 1/11/2011, 8:13 AM
Good job TT. You could quibble over the definition of cinematic universe, as CDB fairly points out, but still. The very fact that DC doesn't have one is an argument for Marvel's superior job.

@Gaston - I don't think DC made the mistake of selling all their character to one company, I think WB as has owned DC for years, just like Disney now owns Marvel. Marvel has the problem of uniting character that got split up to different studios, but Marvel real had no choice at the time. It needed the money. DC characters have always been united. WB could have created a shared universe long ago. Also, all their flops can be blamed on the same company. Marvel just started making movies them selves. Blaming past flops from other studios to DC's flops is really comparing apples and oranges.

Also, I watched some DC animated lately, and they have done a great job. Funny how they manage to make their characters more interesting and likable in animation than they do in the actual comics.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 1/11/2011, 8:17 AM
@ Arminies - In addition to the two you've mentioned there's Superman the movie, Superman 2 (Donner cut), Tim Burton's Batman films, whether you like it or not there's Superman Returns, and even though I'm not a fan there's Watchmen, Constantine (not brilliant but a lot better then some superhero films I've seen), The Losers was ok.
Not picking a fight, I'm just saying there's more DC films that are good than there are that are bad.
THEBIGBAD
THEBIGBAD - 1/11/2011, 8:24 AM
I'm a marvel guy, but can and will say dc owns them when it comes to the animated films for right now anyway. marvel has done a lot better with there own films. I think 08 was just the start of better things to come. and say what you like about IM2 but I will take that over last superman film any day of the week. also I'm new here so hello all
BIGBMH
BIGBMH - 1/11/2011, 8:27 AM
Well, here's why I think the MCU crushes the DCCU:
MCU: Ironman, Ironman 2, Incredible Hulk, Captain America, Thor
DCCU: "Umm, uh right now we're just concentatring on doing these characters by themeselves so we don't see them being connected" (paraphrased of course) So here is no DCCU

Now if we're talking overall quality of movies put out over the last decade or so from both, Marvel still wins. For the sake of this argument, let's compare only the movies adapted from characters from the Marvel and DC universes. I'll give DC the fact that the Nolan Batman movies are arguably the two best CBMs ever made (they're my favorites), but matching those up against the army of quality Marvel movie including Spider-man 1+2, X-men 1+2, Ironman1+2, Blade 1+2, and Incredible Hulk you have to admit that quality and only beat quantity of lesser quality to a certain extent.
marvel72
marvel72 - 1/11/2011, 8:33 AM
@ tit

great article,mate.

marvel's cinematic universe is setting the benchmark,that dc fears to tread.

yeah dc are good at animation but live action is where its at.

also a major f*ck up by dc is they've got all these fantastic characters.

-batman
-superman
-green lantern
-wonder woman
-the flash
-lobo
-the atom

& who do they decide needs movie treatment......jonah hex.

marvel owns the comic book movie genre.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 1/11/2011, 8:38 AM
@ Arminies - The Losers was pretty cool wasn't it :). Well, I'm not one of those people that think Marvel suck, they have good films, most of them I own. But DC have only really produced a small number of crap films; Superman 3 & 4, "those" Batman films, err, Jonah Hex, which I haven't seen yet but I haven't heard good things about it. Hell, Superman Returns is better than Spider-Man 3, Daredevil, Blade Trinity, X-Men 3, but before anyone else gets defensive, that's an opinion, not fact.
I like your list of heroes though Arminies!
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