Avengers: Doomsday & Secret Wars Rumor Roundup: Potential Spoilers Revealed As Another Plot Leak Surfaces

"We're quite literally at the end of the Marvel Cinematic Universe"

Oh wow, a WHOLE BUNCH of nothing.
The biggest SPOILER: Shit sticks to wall.

"It's science."
"It's magic."
"It's... experience..."

Please for the love of god stop posting Alex Perez, biggest nonsense waffler on the internet, and that’s saying something.

He who remains won? So, in the end there will be one timeline with the TVA policing it? It was the only way for reality to survive.

That sounds too complicated by far for the general audience.

This all sounds like shit on a stick in my opinion which doesn't matter.

Marvel isn't that smart to write up a plot so confusing with these incursions. The GP would be lost in thought over and over again.

It'll end up being rotten.

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He Who Remains basically established what would happen if Loki did what he did. He told him multiple times over and over again. And Loki chose free will and a Multiversal War.

Checking out that Reddit description, it sounds cool. Especially the beginning and the Avengers vs. X-men battle. I will say, though, we must get a Hulk vs. Wolverine fight with Jackman’s Logan in Secret Wars. Has to happen. Part of me feels like maybe they’re making him savage again in Spider-man: Brand New Day in part to set that up. Fingers crossed.

I HATE THIS.

If Caps universe had to be purged then why didn't 828 need to be purged?
Why not just have 828 be the result of the newly created timeline? Oh that's right because then they couldn't do the radically reworked and sacrilegious Doom origin where he blames Cap for his disfigurement not Reed and also blames Cap and his family for the death of Doom's family (his wife and kid not his mom) and to be jealous of what Cap has and not jealous of what Reed has.
And of course they needed to have a reason for 828 to suffer an incursion right? Wrong! If incursions are happening then incursions are happening. You don't need a particular and specific reason for each and every one of them to happen. Would there be mutiversal exiles on every incursion earth? On the X-Men's Earth or in the main MCU? Are the FF on Earth 199999 the reason for the incursion? THIS WHOLE THING IS SO [frick]ED!!
Shoulda gone with The Beyonders.

Definitely shouldn't have had Doom be the actual antagonist. To the degree that he's the one who wants the Earths to collide in the first place!!! He's the reason the multiverse dies!!! This is the reverse of the comics. I know they changed Thanos' motivation and made it dumb (because he would need to do it every few decades because of population increase) and I know that it would have been a creative challenge to artistically express the poetry of Thanos as an existentially suicidal nihilist like he is in the comics. I get that and that movie worked out fine despite that (certainly not because of that).
But it wouldn't have been that hard to adapt the excellent and only slightly nuanced arc in the comics. Doom saved reality. His contingency plan succeeded where the heroes failed. Then this savior becomes corrupt due to his ego and THAT'S when he becomes the antagonist. In Secret Wars. Way more interesting. And I don't think it's at all too complicated for the GA. Not that that should even be a concern with a movie this crazy. You already lost the GA. This is a suicide mission. Don't worry about winning the GA back and getting the latest generation invested until the reboot. And boy should they reboot hard.

I knew they wouldn't have the nuance of the moral dilemma of the heroes. They hinted at it in DS-MOM but I knew that would be as far as they were gonna go. So they go straight to The Cabal. Except The Cabal are the X-Men. It would have been way cooler if it were the actual Cabal and they were working for Doom unbeknownst to the heroes. Miles Teller as The Maker, Julia Garner as Shalla Bal/Black Swan, Namor, Corvus Glaive, Proxima Midnight and Josh Brolin as Thanos. And we all know it would have been more impactful if he had ripped out Thanos' spine instead of Loki's.

And I'm not crazy about the residents of Battleworld being like "NPCs until their minds get unlocked". That just undermines the whole concept. It makes it lesser. Commit to the premise. This would also low key undermine the reboot if they had Battleworld just be a "False reality". It's the real reality. Tobey Maguire might be a Spider-Man in that reality but he's not a mindwashed Raimiverse denizen. He's a real person who exists on the reality of Battleworld. It's a new thing made out of pieces of old things, but those old things are reformed and remade. It worked in the comics on characters like Sue, Valeria and Franklin because they fell out of the ark. But I don't remember anybody else having memories of a previous version of themselves from the previous multiverse. Unless Doom's wiped my memory.

The lack of universes is disturbing. And they're all universes we've seen previously in The Multiverse Saga. That makes this even more disappointing than DS-MOM (which I'm starting to think was as good as we were ever gonna get). But maybe they have actually gone all out.

The lack of Beyonders is much more disturbing though and they could have tied up their Arishem thread there too, especially considering it is a movie called Doomsday (which literally means Judgment Day) and it's coming out in 2026 the year that Jack Kirby said would be the year of Arishem's judgment.

I hate to be a hater but I hate this. There is a lot in there that would give me multiple fangasms though; All the incursions, Hulk vs Thing, the potential Void variants, The cult of Rabum Alal, Sue pregnant again, the incursions and just all the toys playing together.

It's the fundamental plot that I hate, it's so wrong. It's really bad. I can see why Markus didn't wanna do it it now. They really dropped the ball with the main Doom/Cap story.
Seriously, yesterday my most anticipated cbms were:
1. Secret Wars.
2. Doomsday.
3. Beyond the Spiderverse.
4. BND.
5. The Batman part II.

But now I'm so disenchanted with the MCU it's:
1. Beyond the Spiderverse.
2. The Batman part II.
3. Maybe Clayface?

I just hate this. And I think it is on the level btw. And I hate it. Did I mention that? Hate. It.

But the internet has too many haters and my feelings on this are not at all positive, so maybe I should take a time out until BND releases. Or until He-Man maybe.

#FireGunn was right.
Reboot the MCU and the DCU, ffs.

Observerite out!