Joss Whedon Talks About The Current Tropes Of The Superhero Genre.

Joss Whedon Talks About The Current Tropes Of The Superhero Genre.

Whedon recently sat down with the Huffington Post to talk about the the superhero cliches and tropes, calling Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight the "The Godfather" of superhero movies. Check it out!

By McNyagano - Jun 16, 2014 08:06 AM EST
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Source: Huffington Post (via DCMravelFreshman)



"People have made it very clear that they are fed up with movies where entire cities are destroyed, and then we celebrate,"
said the director in full recognition that he used the same cliche ending in the Avengers. He added, "Now, I watched 'The Dark Knight' and I thought of that as riffing on the genre," he said. "That was a superhero movie as 'The Godfather.' And I was like, 'But I just still want to see a superhero movie!' We had just gotten the technology to make it awesome, and I wasn't ready to be post-modern about it yet." Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight is considered by some as the epitome of superhero movies, so do you agree with Whedon's statement, comparing it to The Godfather? The director finally talked about the important things he finds in his work, referencing next summer's Avengers: Age of Ultron, "People come in with a certain amount of emotional baggage," he said, "So, whether we're in our larvae stage or our decadent stage, I can't really say, but I try to make my superhero movies as if there's either never been one or there's only ever been them. I work with the idea that it's just a natural way for people to be, so that you still make a movie about people." Whedon here is obviously emphasizing the humanity of the characters, do you guys agree with him? Leave your thoughts down below.

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Chcl
Chcl - 6/16/2014, 8:49 AM
Starfox
Starfox - 6/16/2014, 8:49 AM
Whedon is Da Man!
Starfox
Starfox - 6/16/2014, 8:49 AM
Good find @McNy!
yossarian
yossarian - 6/16/2014, 8:52 AM
There is only one thing which can save CBMs.
batz11
batz11 - 6/16/2014, 8:55 AM
Stick with seeing movies way before us, asshole! ;)
JamesMan
JamesMan - 6/16/2014, 8:59 AM
Whedon should know a thing or two about tropes, practically his whole filmography has more tropes than there are dicks in my wife.

cipher
cipher - 6/16/2014, 8:59 AM
I think we need more drunk heroes.

Somebody needs to represent the drunks of the world.
cipher
cipher - 6/16/2014, 8:59 AM
*booze enthusiasts

Ahem.
Sumitsjc
Sumitsjc - 6/16/2014, 9:01 AM
great that He knows this stuff..
Sumitsjc
Sumitsjc - 6/16/2014, 9:07 AM
Yo cipher this i what you want?

TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 6/16/2014, 9:08 AM


Sike nah, do your thing Joss! lol
Mechagino
Mechagino - 6/16/2014, 9:08 AM
Watch how in AOU, there's a large amount of city destruction.
batcheeks8
batcheeks8 - 6/16/2014, 9:09 AM
He's right about that.
Sumitsjc
Sumitsjc - 6/16/2014, 9:14 AM
@TheBlackNerd

damn... ..
Pasto
Pasto - 6/16/2014, 9:14 AM
THRILLLLAAAAA!
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 6/16/2014, 9:14 AM
If the Alien invasion ran throughout the entire film of the Avengers (like a disaster flick if you will) I think it would've benefited more from the finale of all the explosions and etc. It just felt like the Transformers endings of the finale battle with a few surprises of teamwork by the team. Even Joss said himself that he was more interested in Ultron than Loki. So seeing that Ultron is "supposed" to be his biggest crush of villain. Avengers 2 should live up to all the hype and more. lol
rabid
rabid - 6/16/2014, 9:17 AM
The number one obnoxious trope is the love story. Not every hero needs a damsel to save. Whedon knows this. The other Marvel directors don't seem to.
TheRationalNerd
TheRationalNerd - 6/16/2014, 9:17 AM
I honestly favor a mystery ending or unhappy ending over the happy ones. It keeps the suspense rolling. However it all depends how much you're trying to expand the balloon (franchise)
ezio619
ezio619 - 6/16/2014, 9:18 AM
Theblacknerd-instead unlike the Transformers films , which im not a fan of at all, the characters were still there and i atleast cared about what was happening
ezio619
ezio619 - 6/16/2014, 9:20 AM
Theblacknerd-yeah whedon has wanted ultron since he even signed on to do the first film..Ultron , besdies Thanos, was his favorite marvel villain when he was reading comics and by casting one of his favorite actors in James Spader,i think he will do justice
ezio619
ezio619 - 6/16/2014, 9:21 AM
Mancalledsting-it says in the article..said the director in full recognition that he used the same cliche ending in the Avengers
cipher
cipher - 6/16/2014, 9:21 AM
YES!! We need a league of alcoholics. I guarantee that shit will make two billion.
cipher
cipher - 6/16/2014, 9:22 AM
*booze enthusiasts

Ahem. Yeah.
Liderc
Liderc - 6/16/2014, 9:22 AM
@TheBlackNerf totally agree.

I like Inceptions ending much more than some tightly wrapped up ending, I talked about that film for weeks after seeing it.

These comic book movies have become like fast food, you eat it really quick and an hour later you forget you had it at all.

If Joss wants to keep me interested, he better get Marvel to create some films that have lasting effects. I'm just not interested in another superhero group-up and battle to the end and while he says he's not either, I don't believe him yet.
ezio619
ezio619 - 6/16/2014, 9:23 AM
even though i do show my MCU bias alot of times,i fully acknowledge that, the dark knight is a great film and whenever its on,i will sit down and watch it,its so engaging with great performances and a intense story, i love variety,the DC films are dark, serious films and when done well , can be quite good imo, the MCU , while having its , dark serious moments and themes still is on the more fun, entertaining side of the genre and i appreciate that, i just want a good superhero film at the end
Odin
Odin - 6/16/2014, 9:23 AM
Dark Knight-trilogy is too new and modern to be Godfather of CBMs, I think Raimi's Spidermen films are more of a Godfather-trilogy of CBM genre.
shabat
shabat - 6/16/2014, 9:24 AM
He is right about the city destruction though. With Transformers, Avengers and Man of Steel, it needs to be different again.
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 6/16/2014, 9:25 AM
Avengers 2 is the only Marvel film I am looking forward to.
McNyagano
McNyagano - 6/16/2014, 9:26 AM
Captain America: The Winter Soldier is the perfect CBM for me, taking elements I liked from both TDK and The Avengers and meshing them into one.

Pasto
Pasto - 6/16/2014, 9:27 AM
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
Agreedo.
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