The anatomy of a Fanboy.

The anatomy of a Fanboy.

Betty wants to know, what is your origin?

Editorial Opinion
By Betty - May 23, 2009 09:05 AM EST
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What? What makes a Fan, Mr. Lebowski? Is it being prepared to obsess over the right movie? Whatever the cost? Isn’t that what makes a Fan?

When I say fanboy, I am speaking of the knowledgeable enthusiast, not the GOD OF SOURCE MATERIAL (the dissector of details). I want to know what makes you a Fan-boy (or girl) of comic books and their, somewhat more popular yet less sophisticated younger brother, comic book movies.

The big rage in comic book movies these days seems to be the origin and prequel stories. It reminds me of a time of #0 comic books. “You think you know everything about this character you love? Well guess again, #0! Boom! Buy it, fan-boyeeee!” No, no creator ever said these words or impersonated Flavor-flave, but that’s what it said to me.

I’m taking the origin story back to the streets! Back to the everyday Joe. Every one of us fans has to have a beginning. An origin, if you will. I want to know what comic got you into getting HYPE about comics and comic book movies. If you are of the backwards evolution, I want to know what comic book movie got you into comic book movies.

When I think back to singular issues that got me into comics, I think of Uncanny X-Men #211 and The Mighty THOR #380.


In X-men #211 it is the beginning of a story line involving The Marauders. The Marauders start killing Morlocks. The X-Men try to come to the rescue but a couple are injured. Colossus kills one of them by snapping his neck! Storm sends wolverine into the subway system to track whoever is responsible. In the end he finds Sabretooth. I had no idea comics could be so life or death serious. I basically thought of them as an extension of the funny pages. Boy was I so wrong! John Romita JR. pencils and Chris Claremont writes.

I collected X-men exclusively for months then I saw Thor #380 on the rotating rack at the gas station I passed, walking home from school. The cover was pretty intriguing. I see a really cool dragon/snake thing attacking Thor, who at the time I thought of only as a guy that uses a hammer for a weapon. Thor never speaks the entire issue. I really can’t describe the beauty of this story, but I’ll try.

The serpent's name is Jormundgand. Throughout this tale, only Jormundgand speaks while Thor hardly says a word. Thor speaks through his actions and his facial expression, only. The serpent speaks of prophecy during this battle with Thor. Thor reacts with a hammer to the serpent’s teeth. The serpent charges, Thor calls upon the powers of thunder and lightening, they collide in explosion. Jormundgand plummets, his head split and smoking. The mighty Thor falls to the ground, his armor empty.
I was ten years old, standing in a gas station and completely enthralled with this story. I had never been spoken to and affected so deeply with only pictures. This was my first fine art. These pictures were worth a million words and definitely worth the dollar in my pocket. Actually it was .75 cents, isn’t that crazy!? Walt Simonson pencils and writes.


Many years later I am enlightened while casually exploring norse myth:

Jormundgand is the middle child of the god Loki. According myth, Odin tossed Jormundgand into the great ocean that encircles Midgard. Jormundgand, the serpent, grew so big that he was able to surround the Earth and grasp his own tail. When he lets go the world will end. Jormundgand's arch enemy is the god Thor.

This literally blows my mind! Literally, the top of my head blew off and an old timey locomotive steam whistle came out! This means that the first story of Thor that I ever read was actually the last tale that will ever be. After he defeats Jormundgand, everything ends, the world ends. That was his final battle and THE final battle. Thor is the harbinger of DOOM! J/K but no really, in a way.

This is the type of greatness I’m looking for in the Thor movie or any comic book movie. This is the epic win I wish to see. Can you see how hard it will be for a film-maker to even close to affecting me this way? Will I hate them if Thor is a tragedy? No, because I’m a nice guy. What I look for in a comic book movie is at least respect for the character and the few key elements that make them the legend that they are.

The first comic book movie to stand out and successfully capture all of these elements to me was Batman I. It was the first one to me that said, “I’m a cool comic book movie.” Yes I’m quoting what Batman I said about itself. I liked the Superman movies but really, Batman killed it.


So tell me, what are your origins? What were the first comics that built the fire of your fandom? What were the first comic-based movies that gave you faith in a group of people interpreting your hero? In no way do you have to go into as much detail. 'ey, I'm writing an article ova heeya. Please, give me pics.
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YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/23/2009, 9:41 AM
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Cough humm hummm, well back in the day I used to live in a trailer park in North Carolina. Our nebiers moved and left some stuff so we went and check out what they had. There was a crap load of comics that my mom boxed up, we later moved to California, I didnt know anyone so I started reading them. the first being.

WEB OF SPIDER-MAN 100
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because, well it was shiny and I had never seen spiderman look like that, turns out it sucked.

I then went on to find comics that had what I thought to be other spidermans
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Turns out it was a psycho by the name of carnage, which to this day is my favorite character, and I love the maximum carnage series, it really got me into comics, making me want to read more.


I then went on to read Scarlet Spider, Venom and all those stories involving those characters, but it was all thanks to Carnage that I got into comics.... damn come to think of there was a set of weights at the hose to... we didn't bring those...

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Betty
Betty - 5/23/2009, 9:56 AM
What!? Finding a bunch of free comics is a dream of mine. It's like winning the lottery to me.

Yeah carnage is the coolest. I didnt think you could get cooler than venom. I have to give 'em props for reusing the symbiote and not screwing it up.

Yeah, weights are heavy.
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/23/2009, 9:59 AM
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Yeah I guess, but somehow my mom got the huge ass fish tank into the house....

by the way its Kirby Carnage now lol.

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TheMyth
TheMyth - 5/23/2009, 6:01 PM
Betty: Brilliant article! You need to write more often! I was 7 when I remember first getting into comics. My father was/is a long time Avengers, Hulk, and Fantastic Four fan. The first character that I actually got into myself was the Hulk, but it wasn't until my dad showed me the X-Men that I fell in love with comics. Even as at that young age, I felt the idea of mutants was much more believable than say... getting bitten by a radioactive spider or surviving a Gamma explosion. I actually held out the thought that I might manifest powers at puberty like my favorite characters. As far as individual issues, I really can't recall. I'll have to think back on that one. Great article!
rockingrich1webb
rockingrich1webb - 5/23/2009, 7:11 PM
Well what happened to me is I started playing the Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction game for PS 2 and then their were these unlockables which were titles of hulk comics and so after being mesmerized by the hulk covers I started asking question about comics to my father like: 'Dad why is hulk green?', 'Dad how did hulk get his powers', 'Dad where does spider-man get his web', 'Did Doc Ock get those tentacles when he was born?' etc. etc. Then shortly after I broke my arm and when I was un the hospital my get-well gifts were comics and since then I became a Fan Boy
Betty
Betty - 5/23/2009, 8:24 PM
TheMyth--You were 7? I thought I got into it young. Thats cool you thought you might get powers of your own. When I was really young I always wanted magic swords. Like Thundar, Star Wars, Excalibur, He-Man, ect. Funny, I didnt understand the concept of inner power, like mutant power, until a little bit older. Mutation is a much better explanation than all these constant "accidents" creating heroes. Word.

rockingrich--Thats cool. I just got Inc. Hulk Ult. Destruction for game cube from amazon. It's pretty rockin'! I say I just got it but it was like three months ago. I think that game caused the interest that got the Incredible Hulk film made. I love the collecting the covers in that game. Some are good oldies.
TheShakeBake
TheShakeBake - 5/23/2009, 9:45 PM
I like when i saw the Incredible Hulk movie and at the ending fight scene hulk makes car fists and i was like " THATS IN THE GAME HOLY SHIT THATS COOL " lol i seriously got tattled on by some homo and ALMOST got kicked out but didnt lol

Anyways Well it was the Spider-man movie that first got me into it and then i grew a intrest for heros who actually had powers cause i didnt really like batman and supes so i didnt like DC, so Marvel it was lol and i started getting marvel encyclopedias to know about everyones orgins and then i started collecting comics and ima fan boy lol THAT IS THE ORGIN OF THESHAKEBAKE well i also saw talledega nights thats actually the origin lol

See ya, The ShakeBake
TheShakeBake
TheShakeBake - 5/23/2009, 9:48 PM
P.s. i have The original X-men# 60 and 61 when Sauron gets introduced, and i got them at a city wide garage sale for 50 cents each :0

See Ya, The ShakeBake
Betty
Betty - 5/23/2009, 10:16 PM
50 cents each? That is beyond a steal.
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/23/2009, 11:19 PM
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Steal! What, no I told you they left the stuff in there house.... really... lol.

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Joslezio85
Joslezio85 - 5/24/2009, 2:18 AM
I was born into it. My father was a collector his whole life. When I was old enough to read. He passed them all along to me. X-men got destroyed cuz i read them so many times. and Captain America as well.
Boekelaar
Boekelaar - 5/24/2009, 3:51 AM
A Scooby-doo episode where the gang meets Batman and Robin when I was really young got me into Batman (mainly the action figures and handheld games) but it wasn't Tony Hawk's Underground that got me collecting comics as it had an awesome unlockable character called 'Iron Man' who's comic books I then found at a local antiques store and I've been collecting ever since then when I was about 12 or 13.
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/24/2009, 7:54 AM
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We need to find out what everyones age is, 12 or 13 when Tony Hawks Underground came out I was like 17/18 when that came out I was still playing the sega Genesis and Super NES when I was 12 lol, I really hope there are more people around my age if not way older on this site.

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Betty
Betty - 5/24/2009, 8:06 AM
Yohon- You crazy. I always read your name as Yohon Kaholic.

joslezio- A legacy collector eh? My parents were clueless about comics. They called them "funny books". It's a generation thing though. My dad asked me if I collected "Popeye" once... once

Its amazing what gaming is doing for comic book exposure. It's such a natural next step for super heroes and villains.
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/24/2009, 9:47 AM
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WTF lol what about my name?

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THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/24/2009, 3:59 PM
God, that was a long time ago... my brothers were both fans and collectors. I grew up on Transformers, He-Man etc and one day my brother brought home some of his old things, including some back issues. The first story I remember reading was old issues of DC's Crisis on Infinite Earths,confused the crap out of me, I was young and the thought of parallel worlds was confusing, so I thought all comics were so far fetched, and I began to dislike comics.

My brother seeing my plight gave me a copy of a different comic about dark and realistic hero's, this of course was Watchmen. It was like a light was switched on. From there I moved to Batman Year one and then the Killing Joke. My other brother introduced me to Marvel by giving me back issues of Thor and Spiderman. After Neil Gaiman created Sandman most comics died for me. Because of the depth of Sandman my young self (about 11) felt to mature for less complex stories, and after a while I moved away from comics all together.

Eventually I met a girl in 9th grade, we became close friends, dated and she revealed to me that she was a die hard X-Fan. I admitted that I had not read in years, so she forced upon me some back issues of X-Men and New Mutants, and there I found one of my favorite characters Cable. She eventually gave me classics like X-Cutioner's Song, and Age of Apocolypse. After reading those comics I knew I was in love. Me and her have been together ever since and we get married in July.
Betty
Betty - 5/24/2009, 5:33 PM
AW! Thats cool. Mr. and Mrs. THEHAWK.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/24/2009, 5:50 PM
I think I was about 5 or 6 when i started watching the Spider-Man Animated series and i remember having the toys but never any comics (apart from this UK Spider-Man kids magazine that had two 7 or 8 page comic strips and then puzzles and colouring in stuff, etc)

it wasnt until i was about 10 that i spotted a Spider-Man comic book but in UK newsagents they're reprints about 2 or 3 years behind the US comics but normally have 3 issues inside for £2.50 published by Panini. I collected 'Astonishing Spider-Man' for a year or two and during this time also bought, 'Wolverine and Gambit' (which later became 'Wolverine and Deadpool'), 'Essential X-Men' and an Avengers book as well. Then after looking on the net and realising that these UK reprints were so many years behind I started buying the US graphic novels instead collecting the JMS Spider-Man run, Bendis' Daredevil and over time more and more Marvel titles.

During this, I got into the movies as well (starting with Spider-Man) and a few years ago when I had caught up to the US comics I started travelling 40 miles to a comic book store starting with 'Spider-Man: The Other' and now at 18 get my piles of Marvel comic books sent to me every week and am now very much a fanboy when it comes to comic book movies, whereas a few years ago i wouldnt have given a crap, lol!


Betty
Betty - 5/24/2009, 7:21 PM
joshw24--So, are you getting first printings now at least? I didnt know the market was like that outside the U.S.
TheMyth
TheMyth - 5/24/2009, 8:31 PM
@Betty: [frick]! I always read Yohon's name the same, and then make some subconscious deduction he is an alcoholic! No bullshit, lol, I have to say, 'wait a minute...' (It's no offense against you Yohon) Joslezio summed it up though, it was something passed on to me, otherwise I probably wouldn't have gotten into it til the 90's X-Men TAS. I remember when Gambit first appeared. between me and my dad, we have a few copies of his first appearance(I have 2 myself), but it was the 90's TAS is what really brought him out to me and he became my favorite.

@THEHAWK: He-Man was probably my first childhood hero. One of my earliest childhood memories was getting kicked in the face by a horse when I was 4(it wasn't shoed) I was holding a He-Man action figure... I never dropped it. THEPHEONIX(your lady, lol) should jump on the site as well. I bet she could contribute a great deal.

I really can't think of an individual issue that did it for me. I remember it was the artwork of the Hulk and the power wielded by him. It was so cool to see when I was young and subsequently catalyzed my own interest in penciling. In all, I'd have to say they Hulk did it for me.
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/24/2009, 9:00 PM
@Myth, I've told Jen several times that she should get on here, she reads the articles and most of the fan fics but she says she doesn't have enough time. SHe works nights at the hospital, so her schedule is a little more hectic than mine lol. But I will have to pass the name 'THEPHEONIX' on to her, she'd get a kick out of it.

I always liked the cover art for Sandman, very sureal, looking back, I think I was a bit young for some of the stories I read as a kid.
Betty
Betty - 5/24/2009, 10:03 PM
TheMyth--Blame it on the Yohon-cahol
"It wasnt shoed". It's still a horse! Jeez man, you're hard.

I lost my Man-At-Arms at my grandma's house once. I had been playing with him on the back porch and when I came back to get it, it was gone. We had to drive 7 hrs so my parents were in a rush and I had to leave without it. I was SO pissed! It was all I could think about. As I lay there in the back seat I began to picture him clearly in a huge field of cut grass. I didnt think anything of it at the time because I clearly remembered leaving it on the back porch.
7 hrs later we get back to North Carolina. My Mom checks the machine and there's a message from my g'ma. She says she'd seen one of the outside dogs trotting along with something in his mouth. My g'ma, the country lady that she is, hollers at him and he drops whatever it is and sits there. She walks up to find my slightly gnawed Man-At-Arms. She said it was in the neighbor's big back yard.

Didn't mean to make a long story. Your horse kick He-Man story just reminded me of it. It actually works sometimes. If I lose something really important, if I relax and just try to picture where it is, sometimes it'll show me. Too bad I can't do that with jobs.

THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/24/2009, 10:42 PM
I wish I could have done that at school Betty lol.

I had a Starscream and Optimus when I was a kid, they were my favorite toys at the time, the family went to Daytona one summer and my dad took them from me when i got in the car and we forgot were he put them, I was panicking the whole way to Florida. When we get there my dad saw something stuck in the luggage rack on top of the car (think the Griswolds) Anyway it was my Starscream and Optimus, he had sat them on the roof, and somehow they slid into the rack and one of Starscream's wings had gotten wedged in the rack and kept him and Optimus from flying out onto I95.
Betty
Betty - 5/24/2009, 11:13 PM
Woh. Damn that leavin' shit on top of the car scenario! At least decepticon and autobot could put aside their differences and join forces against the evil that is I95.
Betty
Betty - 5/24/2009, 11:18 PM
dellamorte-- Yeah! Oh, I thought you said "What The?!" not "What If". What if was cool too. Go forth, Jean and Scarlet Witch, conceive until my balls are blue!
THEHAWK
THEHAWK - 5/24/2009, 11:33 PM
Exactly Betty! Starscream's cowardice was enough for him to align himself with Opitmus Prime to fight off giant flying bugs going 80mp on top of a moving car!
YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/25/2009, 1:35 AM
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@everyone

Yo-hon Kal-ic

My name is a mix of Star Wars character names. I use it on everything since Star Wars Nights of the Old Republic, which is when I first came up with the name.

Guess them if you can lol.


Also im glad everyone thinks im an alcoholic...

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Shaman
Shaman - 5/25/2009, 10:03 AM
Betty- So you opened Pandora’s Box now have you? Well get ready to venture to the deepest and darkest regions of The Shaman!!!

From my birth, it started all with the Sunday morning show of Ultraman and Spider-man, which I enjoyed thoroughly on a 10inch black and white TV my mother used as a babysitter. Never knowing my father, I was ultimately hooked of any kind of superhero feeling as if I could identify myself to them since I never had a father figure of any kind and also since I felt I was the man of the house, having to protect the only family I was left with which was my mother. My grand mother started to babysit me at a very young age and yes, she had cable and a color TV!!! That is when I got hooked on He-man. My mother had bought me He-man and Battlecat plus the chest spinning skeletor with his panther. Of course those came with comic books which I believe were my very first. When I started to go to kindergarten, I got hooked on the Thundercats and I don’t know where she got it, but my mom bought me the very first Thundercats comic to which I still own and I believe it also became the first comic book I ever masturbated to since it had Cheetarah butt naked!!! It was my first boob experience (no nipple of course) which kick started my hormones!!!




Never letting go of those comics always re-reading them, my mother got a hold of a special “order” that was offered by Zellers (the Canadian Wal-mart). They offered young superhero fans a way of starting a collection of various old comics which would increase in value eventually. She had ordered two boxes which had approximately 30 comics each. They were used and tattered but all came with they’re own cheap plastic protector. Out of all those very crappy and mostly independent comics (some of them even had titties like “Samurai: Nocturne” but I never said a word), a few grasped my attention since they featured very intriguing heroes (like the master of kung fu). But the very best comics were of the four issue mini-series of The Human Torch!!! It said it was the origins of the human torch but he was a kind of clone which was given flight and fire through various experiments. It was not the Johnny Storm I came to know and love later on from the F4.




Then my mom brought me with her to a book store where I found a spinning rack of comics for the very first time!!! I practically heard an angel hymn it was so spectacular!!! That is where I got her to buy me my first Spider-man comic which he went to face a foe named Bloodshed (the first African American character I ever saw).




Not a day went by after that where I didn’t read those comics or asked my mom when we could go get some more!!! That is also where she got me my very first comic book of my childhood favorite hero, Batman. It was a dark and gritty story to which i never got to finish or even start accurately since it was a #2 issue. The Shadow of the Bat!!! The art was astounding and the villain was frightning!!! It was also my very first "painted" comic book art piece and i was under it's spell completely!!!



And when I got a bit older, I volunteered to help her every two weeks to help with the groceries since the bookstore was right next to the grocery store. I believe that was the first time I ever got to collect a whole series. One day, after we had put the groceries in the car, I entered the bookstore and completely fell on my ass in utter love with a very special superhero. And praise the lord, it was her very first issue!!!! The art was AMAZING and that was the main reason I was into comics to begin with since I drew since I ever could hold a pencil. The art was of Gary Frank and the story was written by Peter David. After that day, every month I’d go in the book store to pick up the new issue of Supergirl. Until Gary stopped penciling for that title, then it all fell apart and I quit collecting the title.




By that time I was a little older and could take the bus alone and someone had enlightened me to a location of the only comic book store in the region. When I walked in that store, it was like walking right into Valhalla it’s self. From that moment on, I had become a comic book geek!!! That is where I got my first ever “Image comics” encounter which featured art that I had never seen before in my life!!! That is where I had set up my very first comic book subscription account starting with the comic that blew me away completely in the art aspect of comic books which featured art by an artist that to this day IMO is still unmatched in detail. Pitt #12 written and drawn by Dale Keown.



T’is “The Shaman’s” tale!

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YohonKalic
YohonKalic - 5/25/2009, 10:31 AM
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Lol I have that Pitt issue, its the only Pitt comic I have lol.

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Shaman
Shaman - 5/25/2009, 10:58 AM
LOL It's acutally one of the best. I had to go back to buy the other issues and had no choice but to buy the First TradePB since i couldn't find the earlier issues i was missing. I paid a fair amount for the "half" issue as well. It's funny that i started my monthly subscription with a book that never came out when it was supposed to. It was my first experience with a "late" issued comic book which pissed me off. But still, no artist does better detail than Keown, not even Joe Mad. So i'm glad i have every Pitt issue in my collection.
Betty
Betty - 5/25/2009, 11:41 AM
Shaman--Dude, thanks man, that was awesome. I have Pitt #1 only. When Image started I made sure to get as many #1s as I could. I was down with the creator owned and controlled philosophy and I wanted to support them.

I felt cheated for a little while because some of the Image characters and stories didnt hold my interest after a few issues. They've picked it back up though. I read a couple monthly image titles again.

That Supergirl cover says alot about the time period. She's wearing a plaid button up with a t-shirt underneath, holding a skateboard and she has a friendship bracelet on her wrist. All things worn by the common teenager of the time.
Betty
Betty - 5/25/2009, 11:47 AM
IMO. nothing can top Geoff Darrow in detail though.

although, I'm not really sure what you mean by detail.
Shaman
Shaman - 5/25/2009, 12:58 PM
Yes, Geoff Darrow does have great detail in his art but i was always more focused on the slickness and cleanlyness that Dale offered. The way each hair crisscrossed with the others, the shading style he used, the muscle structures and THE BLOOD! The style he uses to illustrate blood is so original and complex it has always amazed me!!! All the lines he draws are completely straight and precise. It looks as if you could touch the relief of the viens on the arms. His mere pencils render a piece almost so realistic that it doesn't need "colors" to make it look like it wants to jump out of the page.











Betty
Betty - 5/25/2009, 5:03 PM
Nice! God damn.

I forgot that he did his signature Dead Kennedys style. Loved him for that. You know, 9 times out of 10, I like the pencil artwork better than the color. I think maybe the color flattens the image sometimes instead of poppin' it. I'm a big fan of straight pen and ink so maybe that has something to do with it.

Now that's punk!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/25/2009, 6:19 PM
BETTY: yeah, i now get the actual US comics! however the only places in the UK to get them are comic book stores like Forbidden Planet which are pretty rare (especially in Wales) and the only other place where I started to get them after 40miles every week became too far is eBay.co.uk. Ive been getting the proper 1st print US comics for 2 or 3 years now since 05/06.
I noticed the other day that 'Civil War' is only just being prinited in the collected reprints that are sold in most newsagents!

The day I see actual up to date US comics being sold in newsagents here in the UK and not just on the internet or comic book shops will be one of the best of my life!
Betty
Betty - 5/25/2009, 8:37 PM
Whew! Thats good. As a collector, you gotta get your 1st printings or even variants. I wonder who pays the shipping, the supplier or the retailer? I guess the retailer. Yep, it'll probably never happen at the newsstand er agent. Expensive imports!

Are there any UK comics that we dont know about that are a good read?
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 5/26/2009, 5:46 AM
Betty: Im not sure how it works to be honest-i suppose with computers these days that they could be printed in this country rather than shipped over but i really have no idea! The comic books I get are the origina US first prints with the US ads in etc so they arent reprints!

I dont think there are any UK comics only the collected editions I mentioned before reprinting the US comics, heres an example,



and according to the panini website this is this months issue and reprints, Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man #14 and 15 and Amazing Spider-Man #280. By the time that this Spider-Man comic book catches up with Brand New Day they're probably gonna be 3 or 4 years behind recent Spidey comics seeing as there are now 3 issues a month!

The worst part is that it wasnt until about a year after i started reading these coollected reprints that I realised that they werent up to date! It was then when I started buying graphic novels that I discovered all the other various characters such as Daredevil who doesnt have his own comic here and so anyone who reads only these UK prints have missed out on Bendis' and Brubaker's run on DD!

As for DC (which i dont read) I dont think that they have any sort of reprints in the UK!
Shaman
Shaman - 5/26/2009, 9:30 AM
Yeah Betty, i'm into the straight pencil too :) And sometimes, ink isn't even needed. There was this comic i collected for a few issues just because the art kicked ass. It was pencil and color only, no ink! Xtreme X-men, not sure if it rings a bell, but i have they're first issues and the result of that type of art is very nice. As for colors, it all depends on who's doing them. IMO, you can't get better colors than LIQUID! They are the very best!!! If you're not sure who they are, they've worked on Battle Chasers with Joe Mad!

Betty
Betty - 5/26/2009, 3:13 PM
Oh no I know about Liquid! The cover above especially (clears throat) pops. POPS TITTY BALLS IN MY FACE!

I dont know about Xtreme X-men. I'll check 'em out.
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