SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Reveals Story Behind Henry Cavill's DC Ousting - And Throws Shade At The Rock?

SUPERMAN Director James Gunn Reveals Story Behind Henry Cavill's DC Ousting - And Throws Shade At The Rock?

Superman director and DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn breaks his silence on Henry Cavill's sudden exit as the Man of Steel, and appears to lay at least some of the blame at Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson's feet.

By JoshWilding - Jul 19, 2025 03:07 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

While Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson made sure to repeatedly spoil it in advance, Black Adam ended with the "surprise" return of Henry Cavill's Superman. 

Johnson, looking to change the hierarchy of how the DCEU was run, intended to spearhead a new slate of projects revolving around Black Adam, including a Hawkman movie, Man of Steel 2, and an eventual Black Adam/Superman crossover (he wanted nothing to do with Shazam, though).

Cavill's return was met with a positive response, and the actor even shot a cameo role in The Flash, alongside Michael Keaton's Batman and Sasha Calle as Supergirl. 

Black Adam bombed, and DC Studios was formed shortly after. Led by James Gunn and Peter Safran, the studio decided that a fresh start was best for the Man of Tomorrow and announced a Superman movie starring a new actor—David Corenswet—as Clark Kent. So, just as quickly as he announced his return, Cavill was forced to bid farewell to Supes. 

Talking to Josh Horowitz, Gunn revealed the true story behind Cavill's departure. 

"It’s terrible," he acknowledged. "Believe it or not, the day we were dealing with trying to figure out if we could take the job at DC Studios. The day the deal closed, all of a sudden, they were announcing that Henry was back. And I was like, 'What is going on? We know what the plan is. The plan was to come in and do Superman.' It was really unfair to him and a total bummer."

"There was a vacuum at the time and a lot of people were...they had a take on what they wanted to do at DC and they were trying to force their way and it was just never part of the equation for [WBD CEO] David Zaslan," Gunn added, seemingly throwing shade at Johnson (who, you may recall, attempted to force the studio's hand by leaking financial data to make Black Adam look like a hit and announcing a Hawkman movie).

Gunn continued, "We came in, and that was really unfortunate. I’m like, 'This poor guy.' [Henry] was an absolute gentleman and a great guy about it. He said, 'The only thing I ask is that I’m able to reveal it myself as opposed to coming from you guys.' And I’m like, 'That’s a class act.'"

Despite this being a disappointing end to Cavill's run as Superman, Gunn made it clear that he's open to working with the actor in the DCU. "I talked to him about it on that day," he confirmed. "I would love to put Henry in something."

It was deeply unfortunate to see things pan out the way they did, but there were clearly some crossed wires, and Cavill got caught up in them.

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AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/19/2025, 3:30 AM
Not a Snyder or Gunn person but they can ditch some of the old but bring back his favourites like his wife

It's all or nothing this universe will fail
TheShape9859
TheShape9859 - 7/19/2025, 4:05 AM
@AllsNotGood - you can see the future??
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/19/2025, 4:41 AM
@AllsNotGood - "bring back"

She never even left 😅
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/19/2025, 5:14 AM
@TheShape9859 - yep
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/19/2025, 5:14 AM
@vectorsigma - and will never leave
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/19/2025, 5:18 AM
@AllsNotGood - i dont think she will get a role outside of side characters or voice roles. Contrary to what peoole are sayung
epc1122
epc1122 - 7/19/2025, 5:28 AM
@AllsNotGood - I don’t really agree. They had Nathan Fillion in Superman and he played another part previously. While Superman is doing ok at the box office, well domestically it’s doing good but internationally it isn’t, but i don’t think it’s doing poorly internationally bc fillion has played multiple parts. To my knowledge, that hasn’t been one of the complaints of the movie. People are also excited to bring Jason mamoa back, but as lobo. If we get stellar casting for Wonder Woman and Batman, people won’t complain. If they find a logical reason to bring Margot Robbie and pierce brosnan into this new universe or if they’re in movies people like, I don’t think it’ll be a problem.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 7/19/2025, 8:00 AM
@AllsNotGood - this not something any normal movie goer actually cares about
Pictilli
Pictilli - 7/19/2025, 3:38 AM
Hail James Gunn. I'm so sorry he has to suffer thru being interviewed by the utterly cloying Josh Horowitz for an hour
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/19/2025, 3:40 AM
To be fair to The Rock, he tried and sort of succeeded in bringing him back and was trying to steer a ship that was already lost, when there was no official captain. I don't think he had ill intent, but Black Adam was pretty poor. Henry was just caught in the middle at a time that people just lost interest.

Gunn's vision never had Cavill but a new iteration.

No one person is to blame but Cavill seems to be doing OK. Hope he comes back down the line in a crisis movie or as a new character.

That's my take on it at least.
28ClungesLater
28ClungesLater - 7/19/2025, 4:21 AM
@UnderBelly - here's my take, Gun could have kept Cavill as an elswords superman like Pattisons Batman but still do his own superman. He didnt have stop his superman on the spot like that and he didnt have ro write him out of the flash 👀

Gunn put a stop to Henry's and Tyler's superman so he could make his with 0 competition / other versions out there.

If Gunn had fully rebooted the universe I wouldn't have cared but he's saved his bits from the dceu and fired the people he wanted to reboot even though he could have been concluded in elsworld stories. 🤬
28ClungesLater
28ClungesLater - 7/19/2025, 4:22 AM
**their stories could have been concluded**
UnderBelly
UnderBelly - 7/19/2025, 4:59 AM
@28ClungesLater - The Batman had already been a success and a sequel was already greenlit.

Cavill's appearances were all parts of critically divisive and failed movies that failed to strike a cord (not his fault).

Gunn was put in charge of the new DCU and they needed a refresh and flagship character to kick things off. Superman was the safe bet with brand recognition...(as we're seeing the success of that now). Cavill's interpretation was not what the director and writer envisioned (why he initially declined back in 2019/2020) due to all the politics with Cavill being recognised in that role.

Wonder Woman had contractual issues with Gadot (im guessing) and Matt's Batman was moving forward (albeit slowly) and launching with a separate Batman would have been too confusing to audience when needing to hit the ground running with a new universe.

Cavill had generally been out since 2017 and Superman's appearances since were faceless aside from a 10 second face cameo...

They (WB) shouldn't have promised him something they couldn't carry through..again not Gunn's fault though the Rock was trying.

Cavill will always be remembered as a wasted opportunity. They started well with MoS in my opinion but their haste in wanting to expand the universe relegated him to be a secondary character due to Snyder's hard on for Batman. They failed to deliver on the promise that Cavill could have fulfilled.
ChrisRed
ChrisRed - 7/19/2025, 4:14 AM
I would be kinda fun to bring back Cavill as someone like Metallo or even Darkseid down the line
epc1122
epc1122 - 7/19/2025, 5:39 AM
@ChrisRed - or Batman!! lol
whoknows
whoknows - 7/19/2025, 5:44 AM
@ChrisRed - Mongul or Darkseid would be epic. Cavill could really sink his teeth into a Darkseid role and have fun with it. A few other picks I think he’d nail: Etrigan the Demon, Vandal Savage, and Doctor Fate. Metron would be an interesting swing too. While it wouldn’t rely on Cavill’s physicality, I can see him in the Mobius Chair, delivering lines with a regal Shakespearean weight, it would fit Metron.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 7/19/2025, 4:16 AM
What a shit time that was to be a DC fan; thankfully Gunn managed to turn things around.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/19/2025, 5:25 AM
@TheJok3r - turned it around based on what
IvanBadsky
IvanBadsky - 7/19/2025, 5:50 AM
@AllsNotGood - you have to understand, that DC fans must absolutely love this movie. I thought it was mid, nothing special, pure Gunnism. But right now, it's you like it - good boy, you don't like - snydercult. Honestly, some dc fans started to behave just like the cult they hate so much.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 7/19/2025, 5:55 AM
@AllsNotGood - We finally have an actual good, successful Superman movie. There's definitely work to do, but at least things are back on track.
JayTweIve
JayTweIve - 7/19/2025, 6:57 AM
@IvanBadsky - Great cope. Meanwhile in actual reality it's easily the best Superman movie since 1980 and objectively the most comic accurate Superman movie of all time. Wow, so clearly mid LOL keep deflecting with nonsense troll excuses.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/19/2025, 7:04 AM
@TheJok3r - theres nothing like clayface thats going to get bums in seats
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 7/19/2025, 7:06 AM
@IvanBadsky - its was a generic comic book movie nothing wowed me...the way home people were on they just come out of the godfather 10/10 everywhere.....they are so attached to stuff like children
JayTweIve
JayTweIve - 7/19/2025, 7:27 AM
@TheJok3r - It was so miserable back then. Black Adam was about to release and it looked so bad I wasn't even going to see it in cinemas, then there was no Shazam vs Black Adam movie clearly ever happening due to The Rock's ego wanting to ridiculously fight Superman, followed by him teasing that Cavill was back in the role which meant we weren't done with the Snyderverse crap and could have been dealing with even more years of their cancerous trolling and ruining of this cinematic universe.

Thankfully they pulled the plug on all of it and we got a DCU strictly made for fans by a giant fan who also happened to be a hugely successful writer/director.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 7/19/2025, 7:30 AM
@IvanBadsky - Gunn made a phase 4 era MCU movie and the MCU fanboy's instinctually went into cuck mode to defend it.
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TDKRnry88
TDKRnry88 - 7/19/2025, 7:58 AM
@HashTagSwagg - He did make a Phase 4 movie, if I'm not mistaken. And it was probably the best movie of that entire phase. He made a banger Superman movie, too. Still not getting that Snyderverse back.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 7/19/2025, 8:04 AM
@TDKRnry88 - You are mistaken, Panther: Wakanda Forever concluded Phase Four.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 7/19/2025, 4:30 AM
Cavill has the acting range of a blank of wood. Unless it is a silent motion-capture role, Gunn better keep him away.
TheDpool
TheDpool - 7/19/2025, 4:37 AM
How weird would it be seeing Cavill in the DCU after playing Superman though?
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