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Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 11/23/2019, 1:27 AM
Emmm... maybe people’s thoughts on the other films hurt this ones box office but to say that’s why no one liked this film? Buddy you just made a bad movie. He doesn't come great with some of these comments
Battabing
Battabing - 11/23/2019, 8:00 AM
@Twenty23Three -
You know that Cameron developed the story and was a writer on the film, right?
Spock0Clock
Spock0Clock - 11/23/2019, 8:12 AM
@Twenty23Three - Every review I've heard is that it's actually pretty good. It just seems that nobody wanted another Terminator movie right now (or maybe ever).
BoW
BoW - 11/23/2019, 10:22 AM
@Twenty23Three - Did you actually see it?
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 11/23/2019, 10:37 AM
@BobbyW - yeah I saw it. I groaned at the opening scene that made the whole of T2 completely pointless and I was bored the rest of the time when they tried to do T2 again but with worse names (legion over Skynet... really?) and a completely unbelievable future saviour. The film was just as bad as Genysis but made a little better because of Linda Hamilton
BoW
BoW - 11/23/2019, 1:03 PM
@Twenty23Three - What do you rate the movies in the franchise so far? I haven't seen it myself, so trying to see what the folks here think of it.
SethBullock
SethBullock - 11/23/2019, 7:36 PM
@Spock0Clock - Most people I know hated it and most reviews I read or saw on YouTube said it was the worst Terminator movie by far, even much worse than Genysis.
Twenty23Three
Twenty23Three - 11/25/2019, 4:03 AM
@BobbyW - personally. My ranking would be
1.T2
2. Terminator
3. Salvation
4. T3
5. Dark Fate
6. Genysis
SaxoWolf
SaxoWolf - 11/23/2019, 1:34 AM
Demo2nd
Demo2nd - 11/23/2019, 2:12 AM
"[I suggested] Legion is so powerful, the only way to beat it is going back in time and strangle it in the crib. - Wait. So he wanted to make a remake of Judgment Day?
DalekCraigWasson
DalekCraigWasson - 11/23/2019, 5:34 AM
@Demo2nd - Other way around: Reese in T1 explains and T2's opening shows that humanity definitively 100% wins the war and time travel is Skynet's only ace in the hole left. Sarah tries to kill Miles Dyson in T2 but she isn't a time traveler. This would have been, if Miller got his way, the first time an AI wins in the future and humanity sends back a soldier first, then a Terminator in response, instead of the usual Terminator first, soldier second.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 11/23/2019, 2:23 AM
"It became clear that Ryan wanted to be in control of the franchise." Guess who´s in control now Ryan?

Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 11/23/2019, 2:52 AM
@Moriakum - Deadpool is the only character outside the MCU deal that really doesn’t need the MCU... like those 2 films did wonders at the box office without Fox getting involved as much (out of fear). I think if Feige is smart, he’ll do the exact same and let Reynolds close up his trilogy.
Humperdink
Humperdink - 11/23/2019, 3:37 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine -

I've seen the first film multiple times but the second was an incoherent mess. Cable was a wasted one-note character with dubious motivations, the jokes didn't land or barely did, and it felt like they crammed way too much into one film.

Not to mention the fact that the second film needed a re-release to catch up to the box office of the first. After that second film I felt like we didn't even need a third.

If that's what Deadpool's like when Ryan is in control I'm fine with him not having it or at least seeing what someone else can do at the helm.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 11/23/2019, 4:34 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - I agree Deadpool is the only character outside the MCU deal that doesn’t need the MCU but keep the control way from Reynolds. The second movie is a self-indulgent mess! The Deadpool movies need to be real Deadpool movies and not "Ryan Reynolds disguised as Deadpool" movies.
Baf
Baf - 11/23/2019, 5:34 AM
@Humperdink - I guess my opinion differs. I found both film full of forced humor while the first film's story was lazy and predictable. The second movie was way more funny with Domino's power set in particular proving to be a fresh take on a hero. Cable may not have been fleshed out but a perfect foil for Deadpool.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/23/2019, 5:48 AM
@Se4M4NSt4ine -
Deadpool 1 was fine, not great though. If it lacked the highway scene it would have been completely forgettable. They should have Scott Pilgrim'd the movie and had Deadpool play with the meta nature of the film itself.

Deadpool 2 was completely forgettable. I keep find myself re-watching it because i forget i've seen it before.
Nightwing1015
Nightwing1015 - 11/23/2019, 7:51 AM
@Humperdink - I'll admit Deadpool 2 was too convoluted. But I still think it was funny and a lot of jokes did stick the landing. That's all that matters in terms of comedy films for me anyway.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 11/25/2019, 9:06 AM
@Humperdink - @Humperdink - I think you missed the point, Disney needs Deadpool to make money, Deadpool made money because of how well Reynolds worked as Deadpool. Say what you want, but Reynolds fought for years to make that project to work, he’s earned the right to call DP his passion baby project.

However, Reynolds likes a lot of creative control, if him and Feige clash, Reynolds will walk, and I don’t think DP would make bank if they rebooted it with someone else in the roll. So if Feige is smart (which he is) just let this one slide and let Reynolds close out his trilogy. Done deal, then you can reboot the films with someone new, creating an entire new trilogy in their format that lives and breathes MCU.

I’m sorry but my point still stands, if the other crying MCU bandwagon fans want to cry about it they can, but we’re talking about a film industry that needs to force a film to work, especially after the big pay cut they took to buying Fox.
DEVWoulf
DEVWoulf - 11/23/2019, 2:41 AM
I don't really care about the franchise anymore. I'm just fine with Terminator 1 and 2 (and The Sarah Connor Chronicles).

billnye69
billnye69 - 11/23/2019, 5:27 AM
Dark Fate was the best Terminator film since the first 2.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 11/23/2019, 6:02 AM
"'I'm sure we could write a book on why it didn't work,' he revealed. 'I'm still not sure'."

Well;
• Iconic characters such as Sarah Connor being written as idiots
• Attempted to be a replacement for a previous movie
• Re-used the liquid terminator concept for the fourth or fifth time in the franchise
• Stole plot elements from Terminator Genisys
• Poor advertising (Trailers all sucked)
• Actors all felt uninveseted in the film
• Actors were not particularly marketable
• Story felt disconnected and meaningless
• Concept is too generic for long lasting franchise re-use.
• Special effects were varied in quality, very cartoony at times
• Last good Terminator movie was in 1991
• Terminator Genisys was still fresh in peoples minds
• Both prior reboot attempts had failed so lack of trust in franchise
• NOBODY WANTED A NEW TERMINATOR MOVIE

Feel this video kind of summarised it;
NicolausCopernicus
NicolausCopernicus - 11/23/2019, 7:11 AM
@Scarilian - I applaud you for not using the "woke" argument. Congratulations for being rational
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