Star Wars: Old Vs. New, what to keep and what to throw away

Star Wars: Old Vs. New, what to keep and what to throw away

A relaunch is coming and fans can't help but think what to keep and what to avoid. Below is a list of things for consideration for a new trilogy or stand alone film.

Editorial Opinion
By ToddTex - Feb 11, 2013 07:02 AM EST
Filed Under: Star Wars

Re-watching the Star Wars Trilogy, or ‘Trilling it up’ as it’s referred to in some circles, has become a strange experience. Ever since the subsequent Trilogy-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named was released fans have had a hard time consolidating the two series. On the one hand, the original Star Wars movies are imbedded into so many fundamental levels of the popular subconscious that it’s hard to find anything that doesn’t make reference to it in some way. On the other hand, the newer, or lesser, trilogy found a similar fame in its infamy; its not that it was bad (which can be argued) it’s that it was so different from its source material as to be bad in comparison. In essence it felt like fan-fiction: anyone can write a star wars story but only George Lucas can make it real. But even that’s not true anymore.
So with the promise of a new trilogy, or stand-alone movie, everyone is beginning to look at what made the first trilogy such a classic. J.J Abrams is set to helm, which is great news: this guy knows and loves his sci-fi. Promising story ideas being thrown around already and Disney overseeing it all. What could go wrong? Well hopefully nothing but it’s still a good time to take stock of the things that have become so beloved about the original trilogy and so reviled about its prequels.

One of the key elements, which made it so good, was how it dated itself: painted sets, plastic maquettes, computer screens the size of Polaroids. The rebel headquarters looked like a plundered radio shack and soldiers ran around in shamelessly impractical plastic suits of armour. An x-wing fighter looked like more of a cause for public concern than a viable means of warfare. Most of the actors were a contingent of unnamed British extras dressed in Nazi regalia and whose sole purpose it was to be blown up in a shabbily built Imperial Star Something-or-Other (Death, Destroyer, etc) only to be strangled by an angry shift manager if they survived.



Droids moved around like Romero zombies and who cares? What do people expect from a guy in a metal straight jacket and a tiny person unceremoniously crammed into a garbage can. And every single classic frame was lovingly captured on film. Film! Can anyone believe it? Audiences are so used to digital now that everyone has forgotten what film looks like and what a difference it can make (Although it is true that industry cameras are quickly catching up to that kind of quality). For all of this, Star Wars was real.
Now we live in a time where computer technicians throw a basketball across a tiny green room and tell us its master Yoda cartwheeling his way through a monolithic Senate. And if a character isn’t a CGI rehash, he’s portrayed by a star: you’d be hard pressed to find even an extra in the recent trilogy that didn’t already have some kind of staying power, hell, for his amalgamated screen time of 15 minutes in all three films even Mace Windu just had to be played by Sam Jackson.



And then there’s the fact that everyone, from the Galactic Senate to renegade bounty hunters, seem to have access to the latest in technology and even gushing love notes are sent via hologram.
Fight scenes have to be a fireworks display and gone are the days when two Jedi masters could sincerely face each other in a duel to the death only to throw 2 or 3 stiff blows before one of them disappeared forever, leaving all his clothes behind.



The smallest skirmish now involves a minimum of 15 backflips before a Jedi Knight can turn on his lightsaber (which now for some reason come in every shape and colour imaginable) in my day you had blue, green or red and you couldn’t even think about getting to green until you’d had your hand lopped off by a strangle-happy cyborg claiming to be your dad.



There's also the little case of the script. The original, though a little operatic, worked perfectly for its subject matter. The recent trilogy didn't pull it off so well.



These are some of the things expected from a fan's perspective to return to the trilogy’s former glory. So to recap:

1-Dilapidated, out-dated technology for the rebel alliance and the Empire to use
2-Maybe not everyone has to be CGI
3-Lightsaber duels don’t need to last 15 minutes and involve Cirque Du Soleil professionals
4-If cutting back on CGI is a viable option; maybe some real sets as well
5-Would be nice to have film back instead of digital
6-A writer
7-Boba Fett please.
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Tainted87
Tainted87 - 2/11/2013, 7:41 AM
In my opinion (which probably isn't the best), EVERYTHING should be discarded, with the exception of lightsabers, the force, blasters, hyperdrives, and uh, that's it.

Lucas has been rehashing the same stuff over and over again, hoping that his loyal fans will sell his movies for him. There are some interesting elements to be taken from the prequels, but they are buried deep beneath the irritating, migrane-inducing script as well as the ooh-shiny effects.

Now that Lucas has little to no involvement, Disney and CO have the ability to make their own series. It really has infinite potential, but they have to go their own direction and sell something NEW.
ToddTex
ToddTex - 2/11/2013, 9:42 AM
I like the idea of a Force centred movie, none of that Jedi Academy stuff but a real comprehensive overview, probably Luke would be the best character to bring that about. I'm sure Disney can oblige they haven't done wrong so far
stutx
stutx - 2/11/2013, 10:35 AM
i understand the grips about tech being way better in the prequels but wouldnt they b during a republic instead of during a tyrannical empire. Also more jedi more colors. Agree there are some good stuff in prequels but have to sift through the crap. would like to have film back but dont think that will happen digital is here to stay.
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 2/11/2013, 2:01 PM
Prequels had its moments but I found them to be boring like the original trilogy. Something that needs to be in the new films is 80-90 percent film sets, 10-20 percent cgi. Oh and something the Star Wars movies have never had... GOOD cgi.
ToddTex
ToddTex - 2/11/2013, 6:56 PM
Apparently almost no one edits film anymore, so digital looks like its going to stay. Could be nice to have The Avengers quality CGI
megabatfan
megabatfan - 2/12/2013, 4:15 AM
There are alot of weak things about the Prequel Trilogy but I love it all the same because it's Star Wars. But what I will give the Original Trilogy's lightsaber duels over the Prequels is that every stroke made looks like it was an attempt to render damage. Unlike the prequel's duels which looked too coreographed. I mean Darth Maul's back is to Obi-Wan whilst he's facing off against Qui-Gon, yet all he does is spin his saber & wait to for Maul to face him.It still looked pretty though. I mean who can honestly say they didn't like the Obi-Wan vs Anakin duel?
EdgyOutsider
EdgyOutsider - 2/12/2013, 6:48 AM
@Marvelgeek219: The original movies, admittingly, have very impressive CGI for that time but that's it. Other than that, none of the Star Wars films have ever had good cgi. Namely, the prequels. That fight between Obi Wan and Anikan? That was pretty bad cgi.
TheLibrarian
TheLibrarian - 2/12/2013, 8:49 AM
DarthGoodGuy
DarthGoodGuy - 2/14/2013, 12:38 AM
Don't water down Star Wars with lame spinoffs focusing on only one character ala "Wolverine" and "Electra" but keep the saga LEGENDARY.

But surprise us.

I think it could be fun being completely in the dark as to when a story takes place!

What about, in place of single character spinoffs, a new trilogy of trilogies is created between 2016-2018, one per year, but leave the audience in the dark, initially, as to when they occur on the timeline?

Maybe even start a new trilogy in 2016 and keep where it sits on the timeline ambiguous (I'm thinking the beginning to middle of the Old Republic; that gives you 12,000 years to work with) but drop a hint [Trilogy #1].

Have a new, separate, trilogy start in 2017 that starts just before Darth Bane and the rule of two with name drops of ancient figures that allow the audience to piece together the time frame [Trilogy #2]. By the third film [Trilogy #2] drop a hint, by way of the birth of Yoda or something similar, that allows one to discover the trilogy takes place prior to the Skywalker Saga.

Have the other [Trilogy #3] take place thousands of years after the ST. Weave in a through line permeating all three new trilogies with references to The Prophecy and the Galactic Civil War and you have an epic of MONUMENTAL proportions!

The movies in the near future should retain the epic proportions we've come to expect and remain the Star Wars saga we all love. Leave the minutiae for the tv shows and worry about spinoffs after the history of the Galaxy Far, Far Away has been written.
ToddTex
ToddTex - 2/14/2013, 8:51 AM
I like that idea of having it set way in the future or the past, maybe staying away from the source material could really revitalize the franchise while remaining its own thing. Before the new trilogy I thought it would be great to see the beloved characters in their younger incarnation but really it just shattered their mystique. Reference is good but maybe not full on reinterpretation.
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