SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME's Plot Started Off As A Post-Credits Scene Meant To Tease SPIDER-MAN 4

SPIDER-MAN: NO WAY HOME's Plot Started Off As A Post-Credits Scene Meant To Tease SPIDER-MAN 4

Spider-Man: No Way Home co-writer Chris McKenna has revealed that the plot of the movie was originally being saved for a fourth instalment, with the Multiversal villains teased in a post-credits scene.

By JoshWilding - Jan 03, 2022 12:01 PM EST
Filed Under: No Way Home
Source: The Wrap

Spider-Man: No Way Home follows Peter Parker as his attempts to hide his secret identity from the world leads to him battling villains from alternate realities. They're familiar to fans as the bad guys who plagued the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield versions of the wall-crawler, of course, but this very nearly wasn't the premise of Marvel Studios' third Spider-Man movie.

Talking to The Wrap, writer Chris McKenna revealed that the return of these villains was originally going to be teased in a post-credits scene setting the stage for Spider-Man 4.

"We go, ‘OK, we know that we’re dealing with the fallout from that. What would happen?'" McKenna said of Spidey's identity being revealed. "And that led us down different story roads that were not this story. And then, I don’t know if it was Kevin [Feige’s] idea, the idea of doing something with the other villains and teasing that at the very end [of the movie], I think in a tag was floated."

"So we were coming up with different storylines that would just sort of write towards a tag like that," he adds. "So inevitably we were like, ‘What if Kraven? What if [Other Villains?] and we were kicking around a lot of different ideas and then finally one day, for various reasons – there were reasons why we couldn’t do certain storylines – I think it was Kevin who goes, ‘Remember that idea with all the villains that we were talking about for a tag? That Sinister Six idea? Why don’t we just do it in the movie? Make this movie be about that?’ and then that just sort of blew everything open."

It's crazy to think that Spider-Man: No Way Home was almost Spider-Man 4, with this third movie likely pitting Peter against Kraven the Hunter instead of that sinister quintet of villains. McKenna later revealed that the idea of including Doctor Strange had been floated around from early on, so we're guessing that spell might have come nearer the end of the movie to set up "No Way Home."

Ultimately, we're glad things played out the way they did as the movie we got has set the stage for an exciting new MCU future for Tom Holland's wall-crawler. What that looks like remains to be seen, though we're banking on a comic-accurate take on the hero that brings Spidey more in line with the source material. Fingers crossed that leads to a battle with Kraven the Hunter after all, eh?

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Origame
Origame - 1/3/2022, 12:11 PM
This kinda puts a pin on all those saying no way home was the plan since homecoming.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 1/3/2022, 3:53 PM
@Origame - Wait, people were saying that?
Origame
Origame - 1/3/2022, 5:01 PM
@Razorface1 - yup. And it's as idiotic as you'd think.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 1/3/2022, 5:32 PM
@Origame - This is truly the dumbest timeline.
Origame
Origame - 1/3/2022, 5:53 PM
@Razorface1 - we have a political debate over basic scientific prevention of a virus so severe it resulted in a global pandemic. Was there ever any doubt?
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 1/3/2022, 6:52 PM
@Origame - Well, when you put it like that...
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 1/3/2022, 12:15 PM
I mentioned this elsewhere but I have the feeling of conspiracy that Sony is super stingy and protective of their villains, despite letting some be in the MCU. Look at how quick they yoinked Hardy out. No explanation for Vulture not popping up here again but suddenly he’s over there. Where’s Gargan? Mysterio could’ve completed the 6 (insert tree). Kraven, Morbius, over there too. Feeling? Conspiracy? My apologies. It’s neither of those, it’s simply super frikkin obvious and messes up storylines. I’m not looking at the last two movies as much but Homecoming leaving some loose threads. From the web. Sorry that was uncalled for
JFerguson
JFerguson - 1/3/2022, 12:25 PM
@TheWalkingCuban -

“then finally one day, for various reasons – there were reasons why we couldn’t do certain storylines”

yep you’re right. It sounds like Sony’s Kraven movie killed the initial story for NWH.
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 1/3/2022, 12:16 PM
Best SPIDERMAN film ever❤🕷🕸❤🕷🕸❤
AnungUnRama
AnungUnRama - 1/3/2022, 12:16 PM
Actually this is what I thought too. As much as I liked NWH, going this fast into the Spider-Verse fest rushed i. e. no tease before. That original idea would have fehlt more MCU-ish regarding plot evolution
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/3/2022, 12:31 PM
@AnungUnRama - how do you tease a spider verse fest? Mysterio talked about the multiverse in far from home, selvig talked about it in Thor 2, loki knocked open the multiverse, and countless other teases.
AnungUnRama
AnungUnRama - 1/3/2022, 12:51 PM
@MyCoolYoung - Mysterio was trash talking, but yes the multiverse was mentioned/teased or even visited before. Add Doctor Strange and Endgame to your list as well as What if. But an explicit taese that it would be an integral part of the next Spidey movie? Where did I miss that?
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 1/3/2022, 1:38 PM
@AnungUnRama - nowhere near as rushed as Flashpoint. I bring that up because I think there’s a time and place for events and this one was timely. It was explained well in the movie itself and had 3 previous Spider-Man’s for backstory.
JoeInTheBox
JoeInTheBox - 1/3/2022, 1:39 PM
@AnungUnRama - It was just a small dip into the periphery of the Spider-Verse. It brought existing characters in and no one new was introduced.

Also you can argue that it wasn't integral to the story. Everything was done to service Peter's character growth. They could have done that without the multi-verse angle. That was just the plot device to get these old characters in it. You can say, that the only real glimpse of the Spider-Verse that we got was the brief tear of reality were saw the silhouettes of characters, not yet introduced.
AnungUnRama
AnungUnRama - 1/3/2022, 1:59 PM
@TheWalkingCuban - I agree on your (little off topic) Flashpoint comment. As I understand WB is not bringig this to the silver screen to go fast track into their multiverse but rather to have/in universe explain a reboot. But since WB does not seem to have any broader idea where to go from there and how to set up their New movie verse differently and more well built and planned this "approach" imo unfortunately seems doomed to fail. But I think the legacy team-up/crossover might be Hollywood's next big thing/trend after prequels, reboots, shared universes and the legacy sequels
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 1/3/2022, 2:05 PM
@AnungUnRama - well yeah it was tangential at best but also slightly on topic but you just made me think of something: MoM was gonna come out first, then NWH, and now not only is that reversed, but MoM had extensive reshoots. My guess? To accommodate the changes in NWH. Dang covid.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 1/3/2022, 2:23 PM
@AnungUnRama - I guess I’m just confused on how you would tease the spider verse? I mid credit scene? Into the spider verse didn’t tease anything they jumped right into it and many people around here say it’s the best spidey movie
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 1/3/2022, 12:24 PM
Hopefully that idea is what Spider-man 4 will become.
Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 1/3/2022, 12:28 PM
Yeah...this explains a lot...
JFerguson
JFerguson - 1/3/2022, 12:34 PM
The word play with the title was honestly [frick]ing genius. Worked out for them pretty well when they invested in those “Home” titles.

Also I think the next movies are going to get grander tbh. The one moment where Peter was doing that stuff in the astral form might hint that he’s a multiversal totem like in the comics. Might lead to Madame Web and Morlun
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