Putting an End to the Shailene Woodley Nonsense...

Putting an End to the Shailene Woodley Nonsense...

EDIT (since too many people seem to just jump to the comments without reading): I discuss why Woodley's casting doesn't need as much of a passionate reactions as it's getting from both sides (The haters and the defenders).

Editorial Opinion
By arashini - Feb 28, 2013 04:02 PM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man



Ever since The Amazing Spider-Man set photos featuring Shailene Woodley as Mary Jane came out, it's been a mad house over here at CBM.com. "She's too ugly". "Don't judge people based on their looks". "She doesn't at all match the vibe of the comic book character". "You pigs just want a slutty, talentless whore in the role". "Only ugly people are defending Shailene". "Only fat perverts are whining about her". "Ugly, ugly, ugly". "PC, PC PC."


Good god ladies and gents... This issue does not deserve the kind of passionate flame wars that it's been starting.



To those who think she's too ugly: She isn't really. She's ok-looking. And the precedent here's Kirsten Dunst. The bar hasn't exactly been set too high. Nor has the precedent for live-action MJ been "red-hot supermodel". She'll probably play another girl next door type. And that isn't really the biggest problem with this franchise anyways (character, story, emotions, comedy, action... There's a lot more Webb needs to fix in the sequel than just MJ's hotness levels). So calm your tits, and if your gonna engage in a debate, do it about a topic that's worthwhile.

To those who think that it's some big, bad, shallow deed for us to judge her on her looks: It's Hollywood. Looks are a big part of the industry whether you like it or not. Especially with female leads in big budget actions films like Spider-Man. Sad? Maybe. Enfuriatingly unexpected? No. Whenever talks of Hollywood actors is brought up, more often than not, their looks are contemplated. It isn't some big shocker. These young actors don't go into the business blind like a bunch of happy-go-lucky lads and ladies. They expect scrutiny. It's a part of their jobs. Be [frick]in' realistic. And stop making such a fuss about it.


I hope this puts an end to the overly passionate nonsense.



But, in the more than likely case, that this article gets entirely ignored. And people continue to war passionately about a subject that doesn't really beg for much attention. Here's my predictions for how the whole thing's gonna go down:

Much like Anne Hathaway's casting as Catwoman
1) Pre-release: Haters are gonna hate. Defenders are gonna defend.

2) Post-release: Haters are gonna proclaim that they were right and Woodley was ugly in the film. Defenders are gonna proclaim that they were right and Woodley was gorgeous in the film.

3) A few months after all this: People are gonna forget about all this rubbish because Marc Webb will probably make yet another forgettable limp-dick Spider-Man film.
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manymade1
manymade1 - 2/28/2013, 4:40 PM
It ended hours ago. Now we have this editorial to remind people of it.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 4:41 PM
@manymade1

That would've been a great comeback, if it were true. But it isn't.

If you've been keeping up with what's been going on here, there's been about half a dozen articles posted today discussing her looks for pages after pages.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 4:42 PM
@LEVITIKUZ

Shut up hypocrite. You're the one that started it.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LEVITIKUZsLOUNGE/news/?a=69164
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 4:51 PM
@LEVITIKUZ

I'm talking about the current Woodley-related article boom.

And
"By defending her against a bunch of dumbass, overemotional, fanboys?"

Umm, I don't even have to put in much effort to explain to you why you're a part of the problem here. That quote pretty much sums up that you've picked one side, and are fighting for it. I'm surprised that you don't even realize it...
TheOneAboveAll
TheOneAboveAll - 2/28/2013, 4:51 PM
@arashini He didn't start it he simply made an article to defend the casting choice and to point out why they cast her...He did it to END THE ARGUING... then again IDK what happened
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 2/28/2013, 4:51 PM
for anyone new to CBM.com these kinds of articles pop up every now and again. they act higher and mightier than the rest of us internet inhabitants and claim to have come up with the solution to stop online arguments forever! they never accomplish this or anything else.

Woodley is hot with or without make-up, that's my opinion. you guys are all bailing on her? fine by me! i'll give her a shoulder to cry on..
TheOneAboveAll
TheOneAboveAll - 2/28/2013, 4:52 PM
@Arashini , some of the comments on the articles were clearly very poorly done and I kind of agree with LEVI in that many of them had poor reasoning for their argument and anger directed toward the actress
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 4:53 PM
@OdinsBeard

Didn't read the whole article did you?

"But, in the more than likely case, that this article gets entirely ignored. And people continue to war passionately about a subject that doesn't really beg for much attention. Here's my predictions for how the whole thing's gonna go down"


For anyone new to CBM.com, these kind of commenters who post before reading, don't just pop up now and then, but are abundant.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 4:55 PM
@imadick

Dude, no need to be a... you know... dick.
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:02 PM
Wow, this is certainly an interesting approach.

To me it seems as if you showed both sides to the argument (that's pretty cool in my opinion) and it seems as if you let the reader make the decisions based on whatever argument they lean towards. Neat-o, friend.

Based on how everyone is acting now, it seems like the best solution to this is abstinence from argument.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 5:13 PM
@LEVITIKUZ

The showy gifs don't do you any good, because you contradict yourself.

You ended jackshit. You're one of the ones who are just fuel to the fire.

You've just picked a side and a flaming around for it. Just pick any Woodley related article, and you'll see how you're one of the most frequent commenters in most of them. I am astonished at how idiotic your behavior's been. Paraphrasing:

"I'm right. And my opinion expressed through my petulant comments and articles should be the decisive say on the matter. And if you don't agree with me, I'm gonna throw a hissy fit, call you a troll and run away like a little bitch."
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:23 PM
Let's be honest here, everyone


This debate will never end. @LEVITIKUZ certainly didn't end it. While he justified his argument for liking Woodley with logical points, he still picked a side. With a clear stance on a controversial issue , there will come people with opposing ideas(and those who go to personal offense to let their voices be heard). Maybe the best solution would be to let this die down by keeping it under, but I do not think a single EDITORIAL on this site will do anything to stop an issue. Yes, someone may have very developed and logical points, but there is no single "right" answer to this. An opinion will always remain an opinion and sometimes, you just can't change everyone.


While I liked the more objective and un-opinionated style of this editorial, I'm sorry to say, but it might not achieve its purpose of ending this.
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:23 PM
BTw, I'll give you a thumbs up because I like this objective style.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 5:30 PM
Well, this article's gone to hell. At least it was decent writing exercise.

@ImTheGoodGuy
Yeah, you're right. I didn't really expect this to end anything, as I said at the end of the article before predicting how it'll all go down.

This is more just my view on why this argument doesn't really deserve as much of a passionate reaction as it's been getting recently. Not just here, but on several other sites too.

Andrew Garfield's Spider-Douche? Yeah, that's a problem with the film. Underdeveloped plot and characters. Absolutely. But an ok-looking MJ? I dunno...
Well whatever.

@imadick
Uh, thanks? I honestly don't know how to react to half the things you say...
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:33 PM
@LEVITIKUZ

Yeah, that's my point exactly. After all, you of all people should know. While you made a well written article, it certainly hasn't ended anything.

With all due respect, man, don't act like an end all - be all to this debate. You may be ahead of the rest with your article but I believe you did little to change anything - that's not your failure, its just life. Sometimes things don't fall into place nicely.

So, man, respect , @arashni because he isn't fanning a flame that YOU ended. If anything, he just may be fanning the flame in general.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 5:33 PM
@LEVITIKUZ

*Using logic*
OR
*Using logical arguments*


Read the article, hypocrite. I present to you why this issue is neither worth getting riled up over, nor worth defending. A presentation of my views that you ignored to act like the said "dumbass and troll".

You are being a flaming troll. Even if you don't want to admit it.

And what happened to your big, bad "I'm outta here" speech? Still living up to the hypocrisy, I see.
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:35 PM
@Arashni

If it makes you feel better, it's well written and interestingly structured :)

You get full marks for structure and conventions and you only get part marks for purpose. ahahhaha just kidding.
ToTheManInTheColdSweat
ToTheManInTheColdSweat - 2/28/2013, 5:35 PM
good article arishni, probably the best on this whole woodley stupidity.

@teabag
lmbo, cant blame jacksparrow, this is the most love the mediocre spiderman 2 is gonna recieve, so the lil bitch's got to milk it for what its worth.

dafuq levitikuz, who made u the authority on articles. ugh, u cocky as [frick], bro. let the man do his thing, his article is much better than yours too.
jjk2814
jjk2814 - 2/28/2013, 5:38 PM
@Comicbookmovie Editors

Please, please, just remove all evidence that any of this nonsense happened...please.
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:43 PM
@imadick

I didn't remove it, I don't know what it's gone.

But thank you. Spread the peace, brutha.
FirstAvenger
FirstAvenger - 2/28/2013, 5:45 PM
Just don't post mean and hateful comments.
GoodGuy
GoodGuy - 2/28/2013, 5:58 PM
@imadick


Hahahaha ha, I was actually taken aback a bit by that pic. But to be honest, she is actually really good looking in most red carpet stuff so I will reserve my judgement for now.
That photo was just... Unflattering hahaha. I still stand by my
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 2/28/2013, 6:15 PM
Everybody needs to stop hating. I'm sick of all these "I'm putting an end to this argument" comments and articles. She'll be good, or she'll stink. We won't know for another YEAR. So everybody just needs to calm down, and wait for more production photos.
arashini
arashini - 2/28/2013, 6:19 PM
@SUPERGUY15


In case you are calling me out on it. I honestly don't know since a couple of people earlier seemed to have commented without reading.

The point of this article is that Woodley's casting doesn't need as much of a passionate reaction as it gets. Both sides need to kinda chill out about the whole thing.
TheSuperguy
TheSuperguy - 2/28/2013, 6:26 PM
@arashini
Not calling anybody out. I'm just tired of the debate, both sides. If you don't like her, fine. But some people are posting some really nasty things that are TOTALLY unjustified. If you like her, fine. Personally, I think she's fine. She's not the love interest in this flick, so it's not that big a deal. But everyone needs to CHILL OUT.
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