RUMOR: Sony Pictures "Seriously Considering" Selling SPIDER-MAN IP Back To Marvel Studios

RUMOR: Sony Pictures "Seriously Considering" Selling SPIDER-MAN IP Back To Marvel Studios

A new rumor is claiming that Sony Pictures might be considering selling the full rights to Spider-Man back to Marvel Studios following the disappointing debut of Kraven the Hunter...

By MarkCassidy - Dec 16, 2024 08:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Spider-Man

Spider-Man, arguably Marvel Comics' most iconic and recognizable character, was off limits to Marvel Studios for many years, until an unprecedented deal was struck with Sony Pictures.

This agreement allowed both studios to share the wall-crawler within the MCU, starting with 2016’s Captain America: Civil War and 2017’s Spider-Man: Homecoming. As part of the deal, Kevin Feige and former Sony Pictures chief Amy Pascal produced the Tom Holland-led Spider-Man films for Sony Pictures, and although it worked out very well for both parties, it did keep Holland’s Peter Parker from any Sony projects that aren’t officially part of the MCU.

We recently learned that the partnership "never precluded Sony from using Spider-Man in its movies that didn’t bear his name," but there was "a feeling within the studio that audiences would not accept Holland’s Spidey suddenly popping up in a live-action film that wasn’t a part of the MCU."

There are almost certainly a few aspects of the deal we haven't been made aware of, but one thing is for sure, Sony's attempt to develop a Spider-Man spin-off franchise without Spider-Man has not paid off. Although the Venom trilogy was successful (The Last Dance was the lowest-grossing of the three, but still performed pretty well), Morbius and Madame Web were not, and it looks like Kraven the Hunter is also destined for box office bomb status.

Despite one report claiming that Kraven will be the final SSU movie, Deadline believes the studio is actually planning to forge ahead after a "reset." However, they may be considering taking a drastic measure following the most recent box office disappointment.

According to scooper MTTSH, Sony is now "seriously considering" selling the Spider-Man IP back to Marvel Studios.

What would this mean for the character? Basically, it would allow Marvel to include Spider-Man in any future projects and develop solo Spidey movies featuring any and all of the hero's foes without any involvement from Sony Pictures.

Despite the SSU's failings, this deal has been very lucrative for Sony, who stand to rake it in after the upcoming Spider-Man 4 swings into theaters. With this in mind, we're not sure how much stock we put in this rumor, but there's a chance the trades will soon weigh-in with an update, so watch this space.

“Kraven the Hunter is the visceral story about how and why one of Marvel’s most iconic villains came to be. Set before his notorious vendetta with Spider-Man, Aaron Taylor-Johnson stars as the titular character in the R-rated film.”

Kraven the Hunter is an upcoming American superhero film based on the Marvel Comics character of the same name, produced by Columbia Pictures in association with Marvel Entertainment. Distributed by Sony Pictures Releasing, it is intended to be the sixth film in Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU). The film was directed by J. C. Chandor and written by Art Marcum, Matt Holloway, and Richard Wenk.

In addition to Aaron Taylor-Johnson in the title role, Ariana DeBose will play Calypso, a voodoo priestess and Kraven's on-off love interest (in the comics, at least); Fred Hechinger is Dmitri Smerdyakov, aka the Chameleon, who is Kraven's half-brother; Alessandro Nivola will play Aleksei Sytsevich, aka the Rhino, and Christopher Abbott will portray another villain known as the Foreigner.

The movie has been rated R for "Strong bloody violence, and language."

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HagridsHole1
HagridsHole1 - 12/16/2024, 8:16 AM
No. They aren't.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 12/16/2024, 1:20 PM
@HagridsHole1 - Source?

Not saying the "rumor" above has much validity. But after this insufferable train wreck of a franchise, it's actually more believable than not.
Moriakum
Moriakum - 12/16/2024, 8:16 AM
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KaptainKhaos
KaptainKhaos - 12/16/2024, 8:16 AM
Well it's not a Josh Wilding Rumour post so it must be true
tluciotti74
tluciotti74 - 12/16/2024, 8:19 AM
There is no way in hell they are selling it back to Marvel
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 12/16/2024, 1:19 PM
@tluciotti74 - I'm not sure you understand how this business works then. Sony would EASILY do this for the right $ amount and potentially other IPs Disney acquired from Fox that they feel would better benefit their profits than the abysmal nonsense we keep getting from them.
eagc1995
eagc1995 - 12/16/2024, 2:22 PM
@Tonic24k - Yeah business is business, of course we don't know if this is true, but if Sony feels they are losing out more money from Spider-Man than bumping out those films, they may sell them for the right price.
tluciotti74
tluciotti74 - 12/16/2024, 3:09 PM
@Tonic24k - Ok. Believe what you will
China1975
China1975 - 12/17/2024, 5:56 PM
@Tonic24k - that’s what I’ve been saying. Sony paid 7 million dollars for Spider-Man. They’ve made bank on him for 20 years!

If I was Sony I would ask for $500 million… peer profit, plus two IP’s from Disney!
Which would be Aliens, and Predator, they’ll need some other Established IP’s to churn out projects!
Toecutter
Toecutter - 12/16/2024, 8:21 AM
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Ironbot
Ironbot - 12/16/2024, 8:22 AM
Sony, if you have any common sense you will do this
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 12/16/2024, 8:32 AM
@Ironbot - If you were the CEO of Sony Pictures why would you sell back the rights to a character that gives you billions? It’s actually the opposite, if they don’t have common sense they will sell it. So let’s hope that they have no common sense left.
theprophet
theprophet - 12/16/2024, 8:52 AM
@Urubrodi - making billions and losing billions as well making them pointless spinoffs
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/16/2024, 8:58 AM
@theprophet - the spinoffs were made for cheap. A decent BO run even made profit.
JDL
JDL - 12/16/2024, 12:21 PM
@vectorsigma - Only the 3 Venom films made a profit. The other three non spidey films lost money. With the Venom films continuing to slowly die off, the Spidey films are the only money makers left and they require the MCU at this point so it's not unbelievable that some change might happen. That said the change does not have to be a full sell back.

Besides if I was Disney I wouldn't buy it back. Outside of Spidey there is little value left as far as leads go and Sony would want too much. However a lot of the associated characters would be useful. If some sort of deal granting access to those could be made I could see that happening.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 12/16/2024, 1:23 PM
@Urubrodi - Because there are other IPs Sony could acquire from Disney that they feel would be much more reliable sources of profit than what they've been capable of with the shit they've been producing.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 12/16/2024, 1:44 PM
@vectorsigma - This is not an accurate way of accounting. Being "made for cheap" doesn't mean it doesn't have to perform to make their money back. Morbius, for example, had a "$75M budget". That refers to the production budget....not marketing and other expenses along the way. It also doesn't account for the cut theaters take. So when you see REVENUE, that's how much the film grossed, not what they netted. That number is then dwindled down by post production expenses and all the folks they have to pay.

These films, aside from Venom, all lost a ton of money. And that's the opposite of profit.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 12/17/2024, 1:58 AM
@theprophet - All movie made together with Marvel passed a billion. No Way Home almost made 2 billion. All Venom movies and the animated ones were profitable. The ones that bombed were Morbius, Madame Web and now Kraven, none of which were expensive to make. So where did they lose billions?
BeyondtheFuture
BeyondtheFuture - 12/16/2024, 8:23 AM
Hahahahahaha sure they are
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 12/16/2024, 8:28 AM
DO IT!

DO IT!

I DONT CARE WHAT DRAGON316 SAYS!

DOOOO IT!
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/16/2024, 8:47 AM
@OptimusCrime - 🤣🤣🤣😩😩😩😩😩
billnye69
billnye69 - 12/16/2024, 8:29 AM
I'm sure the fans would love this, but this would be a really stupid business decision.
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 12/16/2024, 1:46 PM
@billnye69 - To sell an IP that you're losing money on?... It's a pretty sound business decision by any measure. It also gives them an opportunity to acquire other IPs from Disney that they're more capable of profiting from.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 12/16/2024, 8:29 AM
We can hope.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 12/16/2024, 8:31 AM
I believe this is being considered, but there's no way Disney will pay whatever the asking price will be; it'll be too high.
Pampero
Pampero - 12/16/2024, 8:32 AM
Fake news
jst5
jst5 - 12/16/2024, 8:40 AM
@Pampero - That's pretty all of MTTSH content.
RedFury
RedFury - 12/16/2024, 8:35 AM
The only way I see this happening is if the price tag they slap on it is unbelievably massive. In which case it would probably make absolute sense for Disney to spend any amount of money it takes to snatch the IP back.

But I just have a hard time seeing Sony sell off something as lucrative as Spiderman. It would make way more sense to just keep leasing him out to Disney, and maybe even just make a better deal that allows them to have full reign over the characters, while Sony gets a cut of the pie.

My gut says this is just one of those Hopium rumours spurred out of recent news.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/16/2024, 8:53 AM
@RedFury - I honestly agree with your last paragraph

Sony could have even sit back right now and let Marvel handle the Spider Man stuff but they didn’t , they can’t help but be involved
RedFury
RedFury - 12/16/2024, 11:55 AM
@TheVisionary25 - it would probably be the best move on their part. They get to enjoy the spoils of Marvel's wins, and they don't have to lift a finger to do it. All their Spidey Universe stuff is doing is dragging the studio name through the mud anyways. Might as well just use it as an investment opportunity at this point.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 12/16/2024, 11:59 AM
@RedFury - pretty much but knowing Sony , they might just do the opposite
RedFury
RedFury - 12/16/2024, 12:52 PM
@TheVisionary25 - bahaha, I know right!
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan
TMW1987ProudProWrestlingFan - 12/16/2024, 8:37 AM
It would help if they just COLLABORATED & WORKED with Marvel Studios on everything.

The numpties over at Sony sit down with Feige & co & work out who/what/where/why/when happens with Spider-Man & his associated characters throughout/within the MCU.

Sony continue to make money, but don't stink up the MCU with their poor writing/creative/stories/directors/producers etc.

But because they're not willing to play ball, I wish they WOULD sell or that they miss a deadline so that the rights revert back to Marvel Studios.
Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 12/16/2024, 8:39 AM
The biggest reason not to sell an IP like Spider-Man would be the merchandising, and Sony already sold those to Disney decades ago. So, you know, not that improbable for a rumor.
Forthas
Forthas - 12/16/2024, 8:40 AM
I think there is a reasonable combination of IPs and cash that would work. Disney has a bit of a surplus of IPs that it acquired from Fox. Sony should examine what is available and ask for that along with cash. Some that come to mind are the Alien and Predator franchises, Hellraiser, the Omen and The Fly. They are all horror franchises which is not as conducive to the Disney brand so it would not be that much of a loss yet they are ripe for reboots or the continuation of the recent successes of some of these franchises. Horror films are cheap to make and defy negative critical response. Five viable film franchises and cash is a generous offer. If it is there then take it!
Tonic24k
Tonic24k - 12/16/2024, 1:51 PM
@Forthas - EXACTLY this. There is a lot on the table that can be leveraged as a win-win business transaction. And Spider-Man profits are a thing of the past...and at the end of the day, Sony doesn't actually care about Spider-Man; they care about a means to big money. And there are other IPs Disney has in a vault they could much more viably turn profits on.
Forthas
Forthas - 12/16/2024, 2:11 PM
@Tonic24k - 1000% I hope tha tthere is a way out of this mess where everyone can feel as though they got something out of it.
ATrueHero1987
ATrueHero1987 - 12/16/2024, 8:44 AM
Idk about this one but then again, I didn't think Marvel would get the X-Men/F4 back until my 40s.
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/16/2024, 8:49 AM
Pay the huge asking price or wait for Sony to run it's film studio into the ground and get them back for free?

We all know what Disney will do 🤣
Dobler
Dobler - 12/16/2024, 8:50 AM
There is no way this would transpire unless Sony could somehow retain exclusive IP for their video games. That’s their only successful revenue stream. That’s where the majority of their $3.8B revenue derives from.
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