Think "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" Was A Box Office Failure?

Think "The Amazing Spider-Man 2" Was A Box Office Failure?

Come on in and see why you're dead wrong.

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By VIRILEMAN - Oct 15, 2014 04:10 PM EST
Source: Boxofficemojo.com
67 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Sony $709.0 $202.9 28.6% $506.1 71.4% 2014
68 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Fox $699.4 $208.1 29.8% $491.3 70.2% 2014
69 The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Sum. $698.5 $300.5 43.0% $398.0 57.0% 2010
70 Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol Par. $694.7 $209.4 30.1% $485.3 69.9% 2011
71 The Hunger Games LGF $691.2 $408.0 59.0% $283.2 41.0% 2012
72 Guardians of the Galaxy BV $687.6 $326.6 47.5% $361.0 52.5% 2014
73 Forrest Gump Par. $677.9 $330.3 48.7% $347.7 51.3% 1994^
74 The Sixth Sense BV $672.8 $293.5 43.6% $379.3 56.4% 1999
75 Man of Steel WB $668.0 $291.0 43.6% $377.0 56.4% 2013
76 Kung Fu Panda 2 P/DW $665.7 $165.2 24.8% $500.4 75.2% 2011
77 Ice Age: The Meltdown Fox $655.4 $195.3 29.8% $460.1 70.2% 2006
78 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl BV $654.3 $305.4 46.7% $348.9 53.3% 2003
79 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones Fox $649.4 $310.7 47.8% $338.7 52.2% 2002^
80 Thor: The Dark World BV $644.8 $206.4 32.0% $438.4 68.0% 2013
81 Kung Fu Panda P/DW $631.7 $215.4 34.1% $416.3 65.9% 2008
82 The Incredibles BV $631.4 $261.4 41.4% $370.0 58.6% 2004
83 Fast Five Uni. $626.1 $209.8 33.5% $416.3 66.5% 2011
84 Hancock Sony $624.4 $227.9 36.5% $396.4 63.5% 2008
85 MIB 3 Sony $624.0 $179.0 28.7% $445.0 71.3% 2012
86 Iron Man 2 Par. $623.9 $312.4 50.1% $311.5 49.9% 2010
87 Ratatouille BV $623.7 $206.4 33.1% $417.3 66.9% 2007
88 The Lost World: Jurassic Park Uni. $618.6 $229.1 37.0% $389.6 63.0% 1997
89 How to Train Your Dragon 2 Fox $614.7 $176.4 28.7% $438.4 71.3% 2014
90 The Passion of the Christ NM $611.9 $370.8 60.6% $241.1 39.4% 2004^
91 Mamma Mia! Uni. $609.8 $144.1 23.6% $465.7 76.4% 2008
92 Life of Pi Fox $609.0 $125.0 20.5% $484.0 79.5% 2012
93 Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa P/DW $603.9 $180.0 29.8% $423.9 70.2% 2008
94 Casino Royale Sony $599.0 $167.4 28.0% $431.6 72.0% 2006
95 Tangled BV $591.8 $200.8 33.9% $391.0 66.1% 2010
96 War of the Worlds Par. $591.7 $234.3 39.6% $357.5 60.4% 2005
97 Men in Black Sony $589.4 $250.7 42.5% $338.7 57.5% 1997
98 The Croods Fox $587.2 $187.2 31.9% $400.0 68.1% 2013
99 The Hangover Part II WB $586.8 $254.5 43.4% $332.3 56.6% 2011
100 Quantum of Solace Sony $586.1 $168.4 28.7% $417.7 71.3% 2008



That's right folks. The United States isn't the only part of the world bringing in money for films. Shocking right? What's really interesting is when you look at HOW MUCH MONEY the movie made when you take into consideration that the US isn't the only source of income for films. Some people didn't enjoy The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and are doing everything they can to make it appear the movie was a massive failure. That simply isn't true. It made more money than Man of Steel, Iron Man 2, Star War Episode II, Forrest Gump, and even Guardians of the Galaxy!!!

Boxoffice not enough for you? How about audience opinion? Ok. Over 200,000 IMDB users gave the movie a 7/10 rating. Rottentomatoe users gave the movie a 7.4 out of 10 average rating. I'd personally give it an 8/10.

So my point? A lot of people enjoyed The Amazing Spider-Man 2. I enjoyed it even though I'll admit I was disappointed. But I still enjoyed it. It wasn't as good as my all time favorite Spidey flick The Amazing Spider-Man 1. But I still enjoyed the film as a whole. Inspite of what some people would have you believe the movie was a success both at the boxoffice and the prevailing public opinion. At least with the general audience. 

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Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/15/2014, 5:22 PM
People who say this film flopped are [frick]ing idiots.
DudeGuyManBro
DudeGuyManBro - 10/15/2014, 5:25 PM
Box Office Mojo doesn't take into account the marketing cost, which has to have been a huge amount considering how many trailers were released.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 10/15/2014, 5:43 PM
Ugh. This is so misguided.

First, before we even get into the nitty gritty details that this kind of infographic completely leaves out, let's look at this logically...obviously Sony themselves saw a problem with the box office returns to TASM 2. Why else would they be in such a state of flux right now about their future plans for Spidey? Why was TASM 3 pushed off indefinitely, to the point where there is no release date for it anymore? If TASM 2 was such a box office success...then what exactly is Sony reacting to? What are all the other movie sites responding to when they write TASM-related articles and include details about how disappointing the box office totals are? Is EVERYONE just letting their "biases" getting in the way of the facts? Is Sony being unnecessarily paranoid? Highly unlikely.

Secondly, this picture you included doesn't tell the whole story. Not by a lot. Do you know what the production budget was for TASM 2? It's estimated to be at around $200 million. At minimum. With as much CGI as that movie had, it's likely to be MUCH higher. And that's not even taking into account the massive marketing costs. So that eats away at the box office total in a HUGE way. Which means that despite the final totals (which would otherwise be pretty impressive), it didn't make nearly enough money to offset the massive financial backing that this movie received.

Third: it's true this movie owes a lot of its profit to the overseas market. But that doesn't suddenly make the domestic total obsolete. It came in at BARELY over $200 million, and even then it took til the very end of June to accumulate that. That's the lowest domestic total of ANY Spider-Man movie. Ever. The entire franchise has been trending downwards in that department with each successive movie. That's not exactly good news either.

Fourth: Sony executives went on record that they expected this film to make $1 billion. Easy. And it didn't even come close.

Fifth: The overwhelming critical reception to this movie was that it was not good. Rotten Tomatoes doesn't tell the whole story, but it clocked in at 53%. Metacritic (which is MUCH more reliable because only the most respected critic reviews are counted) came in at 53/100. Isn't it safe to say that the bad word of mouth had a discernible impact on the profits?
Minty
Minty - 10/15/2014, 5:46 PM
What @SauronsBANE said.

SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 10/15/2014, 5:47 PM
Is it fair to call this movie a financial flop? Well...probably not. But it's just so misguided to try to say that just because it made more money than Man of Steel, Guardians of the Galaxy, Star Wars Episode II, and others, that it's somehow better than most people think it is. That's looking at this situation in a vacuum, and that's extremely misleading.

It may not be a flop, but it wasn't even close to being a raging success either. No matter how you want to slice it, the movie was a massive disappointment: in terms of quality, and in box office returns.

Besides, box office totals have NEVER been evidence of a movie's quality. Otherwise, the Transformers movies wouldn't have made over $1 billion each. Or the last Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Or Avatar. Or Star Wars Episode I. Or countless other movies that made tons of money.
Dingbat
Dingbat - 10/15/2014, 6:12 PM
@SauronsBANE

I guess the most accurate way of saying it is that it didn't do as well as they'd hoped but it made money.
SauronsBANE
SauronsBANE - 10/15/2014, 6:17 PM
@Dingbat Yeah that's probably fair. It's important not to over-exaggerate in either direction. It wasn't a complete disaster like Transcendence or anything like that...but it wasn't even close to being a raging success like Guardians of the Galaxy is (even if that movie has made less money so far) either. Logically though, it's closer to being a disaster than it is to being a success. It's pretty disappointing.
Bekss
Bekss - 10/15/2014, 8:13 PM
The movie cost around 600 millions. When a studio puts 600 mil in a movie they expect a lot more than 100 millions in return.
Was it a flop? Absolutely not but we can't say it was a success either.

And at the end it doesn't matter, Sony reported a 2 billions los for the year. They need to do something or they'll go bankruptcy
MrJedabak
MrJedabak - 10/15/2014, 9:14 PM
It still is the lowest-grossing Spider-Man movie. Guess which one it was before this one was released? It was TASM.

It's kinda ironic how Sony didn't want to work with Raimi anymore when Spider-Man 3 was and still is the highest-grossing Spider-Man movie. Especially since both TASMs have grossed less than any previous Spidey movie. And they got the advantage of 3D.

And both TASMs suck. Especially TASM 2.
Odin
Odin - 10/16/2014, 10:19 AM
It wasn't a box office failure, it was movie failure, a bad bad film. Just like Phantom Menace and Indiana Jones 4 weren't box office failures.
willprot
willprot - 4/27/2015, 7:55 PM
I guess whoever wrote this article (and some of these comments) don't understand the movie industry. A movie is a box office failure if it does not make back it's cost. So yes a movie that makes $700m is a box office failure because it is known that they can and should get near or clear 1 billion.

The bottom line is it cost $435m to make and market, it had a total revenue of $710m, Half ($355 million) goes to the theaters, meaning it lost Sony $80m. As companies are not in the business to lose money, Sony knew how much it needed ahead of time to be a success, as it did to reach that number it is a failure, period.
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