Can Too Much Complaining Ruin A Movie?

Can Too Much Complaining Ruin A Movie?

With the constant stream of pics and video from the Man of Steel set, can complaints from distraught fans ruin the experience for themselves and possibly others?

Editorial Opinion
By tinmanfrisbie - Sep 17, 2011 12:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Superman

Due to the advent of the internet, the world has become a much smaller place. Information is disseminated nowadays with no filter. Is this good, or can it ruin things for us because there is no context for news or images or audio or anything?

The example I'd like to use is the upcoming Man of Steel movie. I could use a slew of other movies but this is what I'll go with. Despite the movie being 2 years away, we know almost the entire cast, and have been flooded with images from the set from people that have managed to sneak in (thanks guys!). We know what the costume looks like (insert bulge jokes here), and we've even seen Clark Kent (Henry Cavill) riding a bike without his glasses (oh no!).

Now certain pieces of information we can take at face value and not much explanation is required: Amy Adams does not appear to be going brunette, Perry White will be portrayed by Laurence Fishburne, Ma and Pa Kent are younger than what we've seen in other versions. This type of information can be interpreted how the fanboys and audience want to interpret it. If you hate it, ok. If you love it, SUPER! Sorry I had to put that word in here somewhere.

But a lot of negative comments have been offered based on gleaning a handful of pictures or set shots, and some complaining is outright unfounded. I'll cite a few examples. Henry Cavill's Superman promo shot. He is crouched in front of a damaged vault (a bank safe?). The forums were ablaze with negative comments (not that there weren't positive ones). "Where's his spit curl?", "It's too dark, Superman's costume should be lighter.", "Have they gotten rid of the red trunks? 'Cause those are iconic.", "It's too scaly looking." I won't go on but I could because there was so much more.

His spit curl. It's a promo shot. We have no idea if we're gonna see the curl or not, so why speculate based on a single photo? One could argue, though, that combined with other set photos, we aren't going to see the spit curl. But this promo pic came out before the set shots did, so it seemed premature. I personally think Superman would have to be pretty vain to keep that spit curl intact all the time. "Hold on Zod, my hair isn't properly coiffed yet."

Any comments I have about the costume I will keep to myself for fear of starting a revolution. But I will say this, We haven't seen the finished product yet. Let's wait for a trailer, at least! I'm of the mind that I will reserve judgment for when I actually see the movie.

As for the glasses, we have no idea what the context of these pictures are. Could he be without the glasses? Maybe. But we have no idea. These scenes could be before he becomes a star reporter or dons the suit. WE DON'T KNOW. Yet I've actually read people's comments swearing off the movie before it has come out. "That's it, that was the tipping point for me".

We live in an age of information which can be a beautiful thing. I would argue that for a lot of highly anticipated movies, it's a bad thing. I think movies can alienate people before the final product even comes out. Now, I do think that the amount of hard core complainers is a small percentage (with absolutely no statistical evidence to support this statement, though), but the fact that so many message forums have so many negative comments about something that hasn't even come out yet, shouldn't we just relax a little? I'm not going to tell anyone what to do, because everyone is entitled to say what they want. But can we at least wait until we get better context or see the final product that relates to set pics? Believe it or not, movies looks different than rogue set pics taken by random fans. They will make it look better for the big screen. I promise.

I know that security has been tight for this movie, but perhaps it needs to be a little tighter. Or perhaps it's unrealistic because to control it to that level would not be cost effective, which is my guess.

My suggestion to anyone who reads this that disagrees with me, just take whatever information you receive and consider the potential explanations before forming an opinion. To anyone that agrees with me, my efforts to brainwash you have been successful, so I thank you.

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kashyy
kashyy - 9/17/2011, 1:53 PM
Oh, thanks for posting this. Because it's really annoying all this complains about some behind the scenes footage, some "Oh, no red trunk, no glasses, no s shield, no Lois brunette, Cavill is too small", etc...
On the previous movie we had all the 'original' things, and people still bitched about it. What about WAIT to see?
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 9/17/2011, 2:18 PM
this bugs me alot, some fans out there are treating films and comics like politics,like the obama administration isnt bad because obama wears a blue suit not a burgandy one, so would TDKR and Man of steel suck because bane is wearing a differant mask, or superman isnt weaaring glasses? no, wait till you see official images and official footage
golden123
golden123 - 9/17/2011, 2:39 PM
Negativity, before a movie is released, can only ruin the movie if you personally let it.
CubanSuperman
CubanSuperman - 9/17/2011, 3:14 PM
I wish people used better grammar. For example, "Can Too Much Complaining Ruin A Movie?
SCOURGE
SCOURGE - 9/17/2011, 3:44 PM
It absolutely can...but sometimes it is justified (I am looking at you Green Hornet and Green Paternal). I personally think Warner Brothers needs to get the hell out of the CBM making business. GL was terrible, MOS is looking like a POS so far, and TDKR is looking like a run a train wreck as well...Anne Hathaway as Catwoman? Who's the poser that stole only half of the Darth Vader helmet? It's not any version of Bane that I am familiar with.

The idea of expanding beyond Batman and Superman movies is a bad idea, and if we're REALLY honest with ourselves do there really need to be any more movies involving these two characters? I think not.
marvelguy
marvelguy - 9/17/2011, 4:28 PM
CubanSuperman

You beat me to the punch. Not to mention, it started strong then fizzled.

It can't ruin a movie per se. It's needless.

The worst part of all these postings/articles is dodging them and staying optimistic about said movie. Spoilers are awful.
crimsoncrusader
crimsoncrusader - 9/17/2011, 4:44 PM
@CubanSuperman Haha so true!
AchillesHeel
AchillesHeel - 9/17/2011, 5:21 PM
The title of this piece is too vague and really even irrelevant. Ruin it for who? Anyway, seems like it addresses posters like Scourge, people quick to judge that write pointless, childish, and mindless statements.
tinmanfrisbie
tinmanfrisbie - 9/17/2011, 5:49 PM
Sorry about the typo, guys. Hopefully it has been fixed. And thanks for the comments! I especially like good grammar, too @CubanSuperman!

I'm not trying to convince anyone, I just think certain people blow these changes out of proportion.

@AchillesHeel. Sorry my title was too vague. That's why I explained it a little more in the subheading.

Again, I appreciate all your comments, bad or good, so thank you all.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 9/17/2011, 7:17 PM
The people that complain will let it ruin the movie. But thats just them.

If I like what I see, then I will see it. I couldn't care less how many people complain about something. The only people that would let other's complaints ruin a movie for them are sheep that can't form their own opinions.

You think I care how many people complain about Superman not having the outside underwear? Hell no. I don't mind it, so it won't mean dick to me.

Again, if you let other people's complaints ruin a movie for you, then you are a sad person that needs to learn how to form your own opinions. (That wasn't directed at you, tinmanfrisbie, just anyone in general.) :) good article.
tinmanfrisbie
tinmanfrisbie - 9/17/2011, 7:29 PM
Thanks, @CorndogBurglar! Yeah I ultimately agree with you. People shouldn't let others affect their decisions, but I think in some circumstances, they do a little bit. Or they let it feed their own fire. "Yeah, that guy has some good points!" And that sort of thing.
mbomb22
mbomb22 - 9/17/2011, 7:38 PM
I think people complaining about it can change other peoples opinion. i havent let it bother me, but im a huge fan of Superman, and probably would go see it even if something stupid happened, like someone allowed Tim Burton to direct, or Nic Cage was cast as CK...wow, wouldnt that be terrible?! yes, certain changes bothered me a little, like the no briefs thing, and lois being a red head, but this is a complete reboot. some things will be different than in the comics. Batman has an armored suit in the movies. did that bother anyone? most fan boys love that part. if people are gonna let little things bother them enough that they cant enjoy the movie, let it. they dont have to see it. just means more seats at the theater for me to choose from
superman78
superman78 - 9/17/2011, 8:23 PM
I think that this is one of the most concise and well written editorials I have ever read on this site. And, I agree with the content. My problem is this: I told myself weeks ago that I was going to stop looking at leaked photos and videos from MOS, TDKR, and Avengers... I CAN'T STOP LOOKING!!!!!!!! I am endlessly fascinated by what I can't see and the suspense eats me up. I have to look! Anyways, I will go see all three movies and I will love them. I am sure of it.
tinmanfrisbie
tinmanfrisbie - 9/17/2011, 8:47 PM
@mbomb22 - You have sense and reason, some don't. Thanks for the comment.
@superman78 - Thanks! I agree with you 100%, I don't like the spoilers but yet I keep partaking. Although I'm easing myself away from more and more because I might just overthink the movie myself.
@Zarathos - Glad you agree. Thanks for the comment.
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 9/17/2011, 10:36 PM
Can too much complaining ruin a movie? I doubt it. I don't think for one minute that producers, directors, or any Hollywood types actually give a rat's ass what the fanbase really cares about. They're just pushing a line of toys, achieving a deadline, and moving on to the next project. There is no artistic quality anymore, and as far as source material goes, this new breed of movie makers use source material as the benchmark of what NOT to do. Don't ask me why because I don't get it either.
theperm
theperm - 9/18/2011, 12:14 AM
also these arent even actual photos from the movie, they're some photo some paparazzi nabbed, so they might not even be doing the scene, they might just be walking around the set.
Facade
Facade - 9/18/2011, 6:22 AM
MOS is ruining itself. Criticism can be a good thing, sheep!
Bearjew
Bearjew - 9/18/2011, 6:28 AM
So true. And if ya'll haven't seen the photos it shows Clark with glasses on riding a bike, look it up.
marvel72
marvel72 - 9/18/2011, 7:32 AM
its down to personal taste if i don't like what i see i'm gonna say what i don't like.
tinmanfrisbie
tinmanfrisbie - 9/18/2011, 8:10 AM
Thanks for the response, I'm enjoying reading all of your comments so far.
@madking14 - I have no idea if this has been done a hundred times, it was just an idea I had that I felt strongly about.
mbomb22
mbomb22 - 9/18/2011, 8:37 AM
@tinman-your welcome. ive actually decided to stop looking at any new developments when it comes to Superman and TDKR just so i dont know whats happening and i can be suprised. that way, i cant complain about anything lol
tinmanfrisbie
tinmanfrisbie - 9/18/2011, 4:16 PM
@mbomb22 - Good for you!
PurpleHaze92
PurpleHaze92 - 9/18/2011, 6:18 PM
Freedom of speech bitches... regardless if its negative or not. Get over it. people have opinions and we have the right to express them. If you dont like it. Too [frick]ing bad....
LP4
LP4 - 9/18/2011, 9:16 PM
Hadn't read the whole thing. But based on your headline- no I don't believe it could ruin a movie. Unless of course Snyder is dumb enough to allow us geeks to dictate HIS film. lol
SupermanReturns2006
SupermanReturns2006 - 9/19/2011, 9:15 PM
I have no complaints, the film will turn it ok. So Chill Out People
RolandD
RolandD - 9/20/2011, 7:54 PM
@PurpleHaze92-Freedom of speech-wondeful thing. Since we have it, we can read what others say and realize how foolish they make themselves look.
LaVerite77
LaVerite77 - 9/21/2011, 9:09 AM
So glad for this thread because you hit the true point. I love news, but after seeing pics after pics and I said I'm done with it until the movie comes out. I was thinking is Zack really allowing all of this? but of course I learned that these are sneak pics.

I know the main thing and that is who is playing Superman. I appreciate some spoilers, but I realized that I was killing the suspense and I have nothing to complain about by the way, I love all the changes. My only problem would have been if they kept the S on the chest like Returns. tooooooo small, but glad that's over. Love the long cape too, Superman should look superior. Ok I'm done.
tinmanfrisbie
tinmanfrisbie - 9/22/2011, 8:41 PM
Thanks for the comment, LaVerite77! Yeah I think it can potentially set someone up for a false sense of hope. They go in thinking it's gonna be bad based on their pre-review and then they never fully appreciate it as much as they could. And vice versa. They think it'll be amazing and then anything less than perfection sucks.
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