Man of Steel: Where Does It Stand In The History Of Superhero Films?

Man of Steel: Where Does It Stand In The History Of Superhero Films?

Here I will look at Man of Steel and tell my opinion of where it stands in the history of superhero movies.

Editorial Opinion
By EdgyOutsider - Apr 09, 2014 11:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Man of Steel

Before you leave due to the author is, here me out.  I have seen Man of Steel more times than I had thought I ever would when marketing had went into full steam for the film. Man of Steel is the first film in what could be the, DC Cinematic Universe. But, that's not the focus of this article. I'll be looking at Man of Steel as a superhero movie and where it lands in the history of superhero films.

Everyone here knows I grew up on Marvel and not DC but, also that I've been more fond of DC since coming to this site within the last year and a half. I really liked the original two Superman movies with Christopher Reeve in the titular role. But, no attachment to the movies. I'm going to start off with the negatives of the film. No, none of the negatives are Zack Snyder. But, the biggest issue with the movie is the writing. David Goyer as a sole writer has not done anything good since Blade 2. Man of Steel is weak in the writing despite the basic concept sounding better than it turned out to be. The dialogue being spoken are cringe worthy half the time and the way the story telling is set up, is essentially Batman Begins. Before you jump on my case, many movies have done non-linear story telling before. But, Man of Steel is so similar to Batman Begins that it felt like a copy and took myself and others out of the movie. It shows unoriginality. Another issue is the CGI in the film. A lot of people thought it was the best CGI in years and was in an uproar when it wasn't nominated for the Academy Award for best Visual Effecs in a feature film. Honestly, with the exception of the first twenty Krypton. The CGI was quite frankly bad and it gets worse throughout the film. Also, Amy Adams I felt was just in there for star power because I don't think she added anything to the movie, hated her dialogue and I feel the movie would be almost no different without her Lois in the film. But, that's just me. Her and Laurence Fishburne I felt were weak points in the cast.

Those are my only real complaints for the movie. The positives remain in the rest of the cast and it's villain, General Zod. The story was pretty generic and it felt more style over substance. I mean, you could tell they tried for emotional moments but they felt so forced. I guess, that continues more into the negatives but, I don't want you thinking I hated the movie. These are just my major complaints. So, why do I bring all of these up? These are my impressions of the movie. Man of Steel isn't necessarily a bad movie but, I don't think it's standing ovation worthy either. But, it all depends on who you are as a person and the attachment you have of these characters. I've been thinking about this more and more ever since I watched, Captain America: The Winter Soldier where my friend called me bias because Cap is my favorite Avenger and I claimed The Winter Soldier as being the greatest superhero sequel yet. So, the love and hate for Man of Steel. Is it bias of certain audiences? Depends on who the person is viewing the film.

The Amazing Spider-Man is another example of this. A lot of people are bias as Spider-Man fans and a lot of people hated it because of their love for the original trilogy. It's not always the case. But more often than not. DC fans will bash on Marvel films and Marvel fans will bash on DC films. Sometimes we'll get that person who won't do either and likes both companies films and don't like movies from both of them as well. What does this have to do with, Man of Steel? I was recently having a discussion with a youtube member under the AMC Spoilers video for Captain America: The Winter Soldier and he was talking up Man of Steel and The Dark Knight. Likes both companies and gives praise to the DC films and called Cap 2 good. I'm not bashing on the guy but he brought up the point that,  audiences were giving Man of Steel a stand ovation. I am not attached to the character and I don't really care for the movie so, I personally don't see why this is the case for the film. It's all about who the audience is and how they percieve the film.

For many people, Man of Steel is the best superhero movie ever made. For others, it's among the worst. Here's what I think. Man of Steel isn't one of the best superhero movies of all time. It's not an example of why I keep going to the movies and watch this genre of movies. The same friend of mine who called me bias and prefers Marvel over DC, loves Man of Steel but, it's because he is an action junkie. But, it's not a bad example of the potential of this genre. It's a very flawed superhero movie but, not one of the worst. The only reason I am writing this editorial is the preception and my perception of, Man of Steel. To get your guys' thoughts on all of this. I think it's an interesting thing to think about. Everybody is going to think differently but, that's part of the fun of all of this.

Comment below with your thoughts and as always, be respectful but honest at the same time.

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Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 11:54 AM
It doesn't stand anywhere, at the moment. If a DCCU ever does happen, then it will stand somewhere more important. For now it's simply one of the most controversial.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 11:56 AM
Man of Steel seems like it can go either way. It may be one of those films that people become more and more away of its flaws which I hope will happen or it could go the Blade Runner route, which I personally hope does not happen because it doesn't deserve it nor does it even come close to touching BR in terms of quality.
Pasto
Pasto - 4/9/2014, 12:08 PM
Man of Steel stands outside the superhero cafe, it looks in through the window to see Watchmen, Avengers, and the Nolan Trilogy all rubbing shoulders. It waits for the time when it can be a part of the CBM club.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/9/2014, 12:14 PM
I personally loved it.

I didn't feel most of the major complaints were warranted, as a lot of the things people complained about are either things that have happened in main continuity before i the comics, or easily explainable.

However, if people didn't like the dialogue, or the pacing, or the non-linear presentation, then those are really just opinions and doesn't necessarily make the movie bad.

Again, I loved it and it is one of my top 5 CBMs.
Minty
Minty - 4/9/2014, 12:20 PM
Agreed. I've warmed to Man Of Steel recently, on the whole it's a well made film. But by no means is it the best CBM ever. That's largely down to Goyer's clunky script
kinghulk
kinghulk - 4/9/2014, 12:20 PM
"audiences were giving Man of Steel a stand ovation."
smell's like bullshit, i have never seen anyone do that in the cinema's, and i dont believe someone would do that for MOS. dont get me wrong it was a good film but it was nothing spectacular.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 12:23 PM
Yeah, whenever I see people comment about standing ovations in films I get confused because that never happens from what I am from and whenever some did once try and applaud a film when the credits rolled everyone ripped him apart like he's some evil villain. Maybe it depends on locations and shit.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/9/2014, 12:24 PM
Like Superman killing Zod. He has killed in the comics, more than once. In fact, he has killed Zod in the comics. In a much more thought out, planned, and methodical way. He lured Zod to a place and then zapped him with Kryptonite. He knew what he was doing the whole time, and again, even planned it. Thats first degree murder, pal. I would chalk that up to being even worse than what happened in the movie as he was faced with a life or death situation in the film that he had to make in a split second. That is forgivable. Policeman do that on a daily basis and are still considered heroes.

Also, for all we know, killing Zod could be the turning point that makes Clark decide to never take another life again. This was his first adventure as a superhero. He's going to make a mistake or two.

As for letting Pa Kent die. He was still young and learning. He was taking advice from his father, not to let himself be known. If he was faced with that situation again, he probably would have done something different, but at that time in his life, he was unsure of who he is, and what he should do, so he listened to his father's advice. Something that every young boy with a father has done before.

As for fighting in the middle of the city. He was fighting 2 hardcore kryptonians. He tried to get away on more than one instance in that fight, but they grabbed him and pulled him back in. And again, he was inexperienced. It was literally his first fight with super powers. He can't be held completely accountable for everything there.

When they were fighting at the end, it had to be in the city, because thats where the Terraformer was. It had to be destroyed, so yeah, that took place in the city. When Zod got involved, again, he was fighting someone equally as powerful as him. Its not alwys going to be easy to just flee to a safer area. Look at when he was fighting Doomsday in Death of Superman. They leveled part of Metropolis in that fight because Superman couldn't control it. The same could be said here. Zod was punching him and throwing him around too.

I can understand the complaints with Lois and him, because I agree, that was the weakest part of the film was that relationship and how it just kind of felt rushed over.

But I really don't see all the complaints as being movie breaking like most people say.

QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 4/9/2014, 12:25 PM






Enphlieuwince
Enphlieuwince - 4/9/2014, 12:27 PM
I agree with you on the CGI; it's pretty much undeniable. The action however, was head and shoulders above anything else offered in the movie. It really put Supe's powers on display and arguably is a game changer in the cinematic adaptation of super powers. I wouldn't describe the dialogue as "cringe worthy", however, that's all about that perception that you touched on. When I think of cringe worthy dialogue, that's strictly reserved for B movies and SyFy original...anything. Is it anything super memorable or even comparable to the aforementioned action? No, but, it wasn't horrible either IMO. I totally get where you're coming from with the non linear story telling. I did find that, unlike Batman Begins that it kinda hindered the pacing. It feels like they had some great original elements that were hindered by trying to recreate Nolan's magic instead of embracing their own. The tone of Batman is not suitable for Superman. All in all, good movie, though it fell short of its potential.
JosephKing
JosephKing - 4/9/2014, 12:28 PM
Zack Snyder already made his Blade Runner, it's called Watchmen. Give it more 15 years and see it become a classic.

Man of Steel is not that kind of movie. I like it a lot, but it's no classic. I do think it's overrated by a few and underrated by many. It won't become a classic, but I'm pretty sure in a few years we'll have a more balanced range of opinions, with some people admitting it's not a masterpiece and a lot of people admitting they're just nitpicking like crazy (and I won't even debate it anymore, after a almost a whole year talking about this movie and reading pieces and comments on the Internet, it's just a fact: people are digging plot holes, misinterpreting characters motivations, ignoring context to distort meanings and just playing dumb about a lot of elements in the film).

Anyway, right now, I think Man of Steel has an important role in defining the foundations of this DCCU. It's like a medicine: some people likes the taste, some people don't, but in the end everyone needs to take it. Liking or not, it breaks with any previous interpretation and kills any preconceived notion about the character, therefore changing expectations about what comes next. That's what they wanted, that's what they achieved, that's bold and, to me, that's the way to go.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/9/2014, 12:34 PM
@ Metahuman and Kinghulk

I've seen people applaud at the end of movies before. For a while there, it was like every movie I went to see. I can't say I've seen standing ovations, but I've seen people and audiences applaud, for sure. I never understood it. Its not like the film makers are there to hear it.
kinghulk
kinghulk - 4/9/2014, 12:36 PM
corndogburlar- really? wow i think that's a bit weird, id think everyone would be to busy rushing to the toilets lol.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/9/2014, 12:40 PM
Kinghulk

Haha, thats what I do. I don't use the restroom during movies, I hate missing parts. So i've always got to b-line it at the end.

But yeah man, no lie. People applauding. It used to irritate the hell out of me and my buddies.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 12:56 PM
The film was visually beautiful though and had a very good soundtrack.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 12:57 PM
For as many positive reviews it gets there's ton of negatives as well... a lot of them bringing up more shit than "omergerd distractyun!"
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:01 PM
It's about time people realized that the writer for a good film deserves credit as much as the director. The script was the one weak factor for Man of Steel where everything else was strong as [frick]. Cast, soundtrack, visuals, designs, director. One thing brought it all down where everything else was very strong.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:01 PM
By the way, that is also indirectly praising the film, because other than the script, everything else was actually very good.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:16 PM
@Curve

I do think for myself. I gradually start liking the film less and less upon multiple viewings and certain reviewers opened my eyes to even more flaws.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:20 PM
The Smallville fight was brilliant. The Zod one at Metropolis... less so. It's two invincible superpowered aliens smashing into each other and punching constantly with neither of them sustaining any damage at all. I felt like neither one of them were in any peril and it was simply a fight for the sake of it. If it was slower, more personal and both were getting [frick]ed up from the fight, cool, I'd understand. But I simply don't get because it came across as a fight for the sake of having one. At least with Faora and Superman in Metropolis they were visibly in pain at parts or showed fatigue, even though I'd like a little visible damage like blood on the lips of face to be present, they were still being physically worn down by the fight and in pain. That's what the Smallville one intense and good for me.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:21 PM
I'm confused, are you talking to me or Omega?

Also, on a side note I probably give over exaggerate my hate for this film. It's likely because I am always frustrated and bewildered by the people who worship it. I still stand by a lot of my criticisms for it and I find a lot of the defenses ridiculous. But yes, there was good in this film, it simply did not lie in the script.
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:22 PM
*Faora and Superman in Smallville
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:24 PM
Still had lovely visuals though. I didn't think the origin portion was handled to well but this shot is beautiful:



Invokes mystery, discovery and curiosity... great now I sound like an artsy twat! :P
Klone
Klone - 4/9/2014, 1:29 PM
I understand you 0mega. Same with TDKR. A good film I hate watching.
Moohika
Moohika - 4/9/2014, 2:08 PM
I was never that big on Superman before MOS. Maybe that's why I enjoyed it so much. Definitely in my top 5 CBM's
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 4/9/2014, 2:23 PM
@AheadOfDaCurve
What I dont get is look at this level of scrutiny on MOS from some one who finds less flaws in IM2 and IM3....

Pity couldn't apply the same scrutiny to Disney films eh!

Think about it now...

How does that make sense,lets apply a level 10 scrutiny on one film but hold half the level of scrutiny on other CBM...

This makes no sense to me,to find more faults in MOS then IM3 and THOR2 all made the same year is ridiculous...when you actually think about it...

Amen, brother. I find it interesting that most of the people who say that MOS or TDKR is sh!t, are people who worship Marvel. Hmmm, maybe a little biased hypocrisy?
QuestionDAnswer
QuestionDAnswer - 4/9/2014, 2:30 PM
Funny, you never see the same kind of scrutiny with Marvel films, and they say that nolanites are the worst. Smh, I hate to disagree but I think that Marvel trolls are the worst.
Bo1208
Bo1208 - 4/9/2014, 2:47 PM
Man of Steel (Also TDKR) was a really mediocre film IMO. Felt shallow and wasn't even enjoyable. Can't even watch it anymore without getting mad. So much potential not realized. The look of the movie just felt too artificial for me as well as the story.
DeathstrokeTerminator
DeathstrokeTerminator - 4/9/2014, 2:57 PM
I loved it, top 3 all time CBM to me
JosephKing
JosephKing - 4/9/2014, 3:19 PM
I think drama comes from the motivations, not from the fight itself. It's not like if punches had to have a meaning. The fight, from a technical point of view, must be visually coherent at the very least, not "meaningful". What must be meaningful is the reasoning behind the fight, and the reasoning behind the fight in Man of Steel was meaningful, in my opinion. Superman and Zod are not fighting in Metropolis just because they want to punch each other, both of them have motivations. Zod lost his people, he's alone in the universe, he failed and he wants revenge. Superman must stop him or humanity will die. We have a very clear human price too, we know people are in danger during the fight and it adds tension to the whole thing. In the end, Clark has not only to make his final decision between Earth and Krypton, but he also has to break his own limits and kill Zod to save mankind. That's all drama and it works perfectly to me. Also, it's only 5 minutes long, so it doesn't get too tiring. And the way Zack directs it is just awesome, we can actually feel their power, not just see it.

That being said, I'm also a bigger fan of the Smallville fight. It plays a little with the Western genre, which is cool. I'll disagree about Kal "winning" out of nowhere. He's struggling all the time to keep control, he even passes out in a moment. He only "wins" because he had help from the military, even what stops Faora is a missile, not Superman. And the big dude is just ok in the end, he stops because he needs to help the sub-commander, not because he was defeated. Anyway, I just think it's a very well directed action set piece and it portrays perfectly Clark's inexperience (we can see he's nervous when Faora and Nam-Ek are coming). And it's exciting to watch, which is always good.
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