Why Superman Needs Other Heroes

Why Superman Needs Other Heroes

While it makes a certain kind of sense for Batman to live in a world isolated from other superheroes, not so for Superman. In fact, Superman can't really BE Superman unless there are other heroes around...

Editorial Opinion
By KeithM - Mar 20, 2010 01:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Superman

What makes Superman Superman? Is it his powers? Lots of other heroes are as, almost as, or more powerful than Superman, so it's not his powers alone that make him who he is.

What makes him Superman is his dedication to truth and justice and "doing the right thing". He is about as "good" as a man can be - a beacon for us all to aspire to. But with the powers he has, that presents Clark with a moral problem...

With the powers he possesses these days (not so much in his early days when his powers were much more limited), there is never a time when he isn't aware of someone, somewhere in trouble. If he's going to be "good" then how does he deal with this situation when being Clark, for example? For every second he's being Clark, working at the Planet, wooing Lois, visiting Ma Kent, he's letting someone, somewhere, die or come to harm. Knowingly, deliberately and seemingly uncaringly.

Kurt Busiek examines this problem in Astro City #1, where the hero, The Samaritan; a clear Superman analogue, shows us a day in his life. The only moment of respite he has is when flying between crises and disasters - and even then he still worries that he can't be 'omnipresent'.

A true 'Superman' would never be 'off' - could never take a moment to just be normal, could never be Clark in other words.

Unless...

Picture the scene. At first Superman does exactly what Samaritan does - never takes a rest, with just those brief seconds flying between crises the only respite he has. While Superman would never get physically tired, mentally and emotionally the strain would bound to show eventually.

And that's where you need other superheroes to step in. To take Superman aside and say "let us take up the slack - take some time off dude".



Then and only then can Superman take a moment out of his busy schedule saving the world to just be Clark for a moment, to do some 'normal' work, to connect to other people on their level, to relax - to just be a man instead of being Superman 24/7 365. Because although he still hears/sees people in trouble, he can ALSO hear/see that other heroes are 'taking care of business'.

Without these other heroes (whoever they may be), this will always be the BIG elephant in the room when it comes to questioning Superman's existence and morals.

Nolan wants 'realism' in his movies? In order for Clark/Superman to be remotely realistic as a "person" (putting aside the fantasy of his powers) and to be able to stand up to critical scrutiny of his morals and behaviour, then other superheroes are an absolute necessity.

To have him in isolation raises far more problems than it solves. To have him in in a world with no other heroes means to question the very ideals he is supposed to represent unless he spends ALL his time as Superman, never being 'off', never being Clark. Or, alternatively, de-powering him to the point where he can't be everywhere and do everything, which is equally undesirable in my opinion. Superman NEEDS the Justice League and the Teen Titans. Superman needs the DCU. You know it makes sense Chris.
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KeithM
KeithM - 3/20/2010, 1:43 AM
There is a slight flaw in the above argument, mind...

I'd say that even if other heroes are 'taking up the slack' there still aren't enough, even with a fully populated DCU, to be everywhere at once - there would always still be something for Superman to do, so even in this situation, taking time off as Clark could still be seen as morally 'dubious'. But at least this presents a more logical scenario in which he could be Clark than having a world with NO other heroes in it.

Arguing with yourself ftw! ;)
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/20/2010, 9:33 AM
Ohhh nooooo its KeithM!! : P

Good article man, interesting!

Congrats on making main!



No matter how you look at it though SUPERMAN and BATMAN live in the DC Universe!

And talking movies, hope we get some kinda of other DC cameo in the new SUPERMAN movie (When/if it ever gets made).
flames809
flames809 - 3/20/2010, 9:33 AM
u got a point
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/20/2010, 9:46 AM
Great article and a good point. Although this has been addressed in the comics before..and even in Smallville! Basically it comes down to Clark/Kal El accepting the fact that he is not omnipotent and simply doing the best that he can do..thats always been a staple of the character and why I like when he comes across as having very human failings..example, stalking Lois in Returns...I thought it was a great example of showing that no matter how "alien" he will always be, living amongst humans makes him just as likely to pick up their weaknesses as their strengths. Some people hated that scene. Go figure. Anyway, I agree that there should be other heroes, but maybe not specifically for the same reason you do.
Montross
Montross - 3/20/2010, 9:52 AM
Superman just needs to come to terms with the fact that he's not a god. He must accept that he is not and will never be omniscient or omnipresent. Once he gets past that, he will have an easier time separating his Superman persona from Clark Kent. He must realize that there are some people that are simply beyond his power to save. He knows he has a gift that is unique, and he uses it responsibly, for the good of mankind. That is all that can be asked of himself or by any other.

That being said, I do think including other DCU characters is essential if only to give Superman someone to relate to.
BLADE44
BLADE44 - 3/20/2010, 10:10 AM
Intersting article!!
eleven11
eleven11 - 3/20/2010, 10:17 AM
great article! i do agree. n let me add batman has to be in the same universe as superman. superman trusts batman to stop him if all hell breaks lose. read superman/batman : search for kryptonite. superman lets batman keep the last piece of green kryponite incase he goes amok. batman very much plays a part in superman's moral issues.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 3/20/2010, 10:18 AM
OZY @ Good man. i like dude! ; )
eleven11
eleven11 - 3/20/2010, 10:24 AM
n btw the advertisements are getting on my nerves. same like the previous one with the wolfman. it makes me not wanna c the movie. haha
SolidSnake
SolidSnake - 3/20/2010, 10:25 AM

valeriesghost
valeriesghost - 3/20/2010, 10:30 AM
I think you make a great point Keith. Good Article
Imran
Imran - 3/20/2010, 10:31 AM
Awesome article. Very interesting read.

My take on it though is that him being Clark is one of his moral duties. He doesn't want to be a God, he doesn't want to be controlling and he doesn't want to rule the world. He can easily take over, become a dictator and stop all bad stuff, but he doesn't.

If you've read Superman: Red Son, you can probably see where my logic is coming from. In that, he's in a world that is ruled under his thumb and it's nowhere near the Superman we know and love. Even though he thinks it's the right thing to do.

In this instance: I think yeah, Superman does need a world with other Superheroes, like Anil said: Too keep him grounded and be part of a family.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/20/2010, 10:33 AM
Great article. Like Ror said, being with so many humans, he's bound to adapt to the weaknesses and strengths of them. As far as the Clark vs. Superman thing, I think that he will always be Superman first, Clark second (unless you look at the Smallville universe, then it's all effed up).
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/20/2010, 11:20 AM
Magic 8, were you starved of love as a child or something? Your fast becoming a troll on here dude
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/20/2010, 11:34 AM
Great article. Enjoyed reading something different for a change. And even though it is clear that Superman has to come to terms with no physically being able to muster global safety all the time.
I still think you are right that he needs other heroes to at least support him so that he doesn't feel like he is letting people die when he is taking time off.

And it is starting to look like money has got to Nolan and we're gonna see more heroes in the same universe. That Horn guy indicated that they are very much gonna go the same route as Marvel. And Nolan's Batman Universe is getting round up with the next one, which leaves him open for a new franchise that can intervine with the other DC characters.
TNTjesus
TNTjesus - 3/20/2010, 11:40 AM
Nice argument. I'll drink the kool-aid but I'm not sure if Nolan will.

For anyone who is familiar with the old live-action Flash tv series, I saw an episode yesterday where Barry Allen walked by a theater that was playing a double feature Superman/Batman. He also mentioned some reporter who wrote an article on Arkham. My point is that Nolan is the weird exception and it makes perfect sense to at least mention or acknowledge the existence of other heroes. Its not like they have to actually appear in his movie.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 3/20/2010, 11:41 AM
Yes. I can handle Nolan wanting to keep his own Batman in his own universe, but doing it to Superman, who is going to be essential to the lead up to a JLA film, is just plain stupid. It's taking one step forward but 2 steps back.
mounted88
mounted88 - 3/20/2010, 11:43 AM
EVERYONE@ whats up im back lol. Anyone miss me. Alot of new people on here, i dont know.

Solidsnake@ awesome pic. Did you do that or did you come across that either way awesome pic.

Ror@ I think magic8 is the same person that is always the one complaining on here, and just being a pain in the arse with everyone. I think he just keeps coming back under a different name.
ecksmanfan
ecksmanfan - 3/20/2010, 11:49 AM
@mounted- Welcome back!
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 3/20/2010, 11:50 AM
Hmm...interesting article KeithM. I have to say that I completely agree with you here. Personally, I'm not a fan of DC's comic books (apart from a lot of the classic stories and most of Batman's stuff) and I dont really like Superman. At all. However, I still want to see the character done properly on the big screen and even I cant deny how [frick]ing awesome it would be to see a movie featuring Batman and Superman side-by-side or even an eventual JLA movie. Good work man.

mounted88: Good to see you back dude! :)

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breakUbatman
breakUbatman - 3/20/2010, 11:50 AM
Good point but then if Superman is all seeing and stuff like that it means that he would always have an eye on his foes (who dwell on earth) therefore he could stop any plans they hatch before they get sarted.( And he would always be able to see the Kryptonite behind so and so's back)

I think Nolan is right about Superman and Batman not crossing paths because Batman is quite territorial if you areny part of the fam' and most heroes pale in comparison to Superman. No matter how much planning anyone has someone like Superman would crush you...then spin the earth backwards just to crush you again. Which is why The Sentry is mentally unstable and Clark has his code.

I think Superman takes time out as Clark because he wants to be human and doesnt want to develop a god complex. The cops are there for normal stuff Superman is there for the other crap. That's the way I see it.

Besides Batman can be the first hero s good reason for him to take a break would be the emergence of a Superman
Ryden
Ryden - 3/20/2010, 11:54 AM
Great article KeithM I agree with you completley, Superman, I find, is essentially a very boring character. I think an updated verison within the DCU is essential for an on-goin series of films to survive.

@magic8- Mink. :)
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 3/20/2010, 12:08 PM
Cool stuff!
@Ozy-God No.Snyder would be too dark. I Want JJ Abrams!
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 3/20/2010, 12:28 PM
KeithM: Great article.
superman7
superman7 - 3/20/2010, 12:42 PM
Mortoss @:

Superman isnt supposed to think of himself as a god. Hell in Batman/Superman, Batman says "In some ways Clark is the most human of all of us. Then he shoots fire from the skies and its hard not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him"

That sentence sums it all up. Everyone else thinks of him as a God but to him he's supposed to feel like just one of us. But in the comics other people who view him as a god will publicly announce that it was his fault that he didnt save their husband or wife or whatever. So basically allot of people in the DCU view him that as a god, which is why he ends up feeling guilty that he hasn't done all that he can.
Really, if someone was publicly giving you reasons to blame yourself for not preventing someone's death, (and it was within your power to) and you didn't, I could see why someone would feel responsible.


@ KeithM:
Nice article! I hope they do plant some easter eggs in the next Superman film, or maybe even a scene or two with the other heroes. If nothing else to establish a continuity between the movies. I can see why Batman wouldn't have any others, but Superman would be much easier to do it with. And worst case scenario they just have to say 'Batman was the first to dress up in the tights and fight crime'. Nolan's continuity would still work.

Then in regards to timelines, just make like Marvel. Say they third part of the trilogy happened before the Superman movie. Which would make sense since it'll probably come out before superman anyway.
To me, not having crossovers takes away from the DCU allure. I love when they all work together b/c as you said, It shows why Superman is so great. Not because he's powerful. Its because he knows how to handle himself with his powers. He can successfully fight off tons of enemies far more powerful than he is. And still has that 'Superman' presence among the most powerful people in the universe.
Its the best comic writers that can bring that out, and i hope the writing staff that works on the movie carry that over.

Sorry for the long rant, but if you can't tell, superman is by far my favorite.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 3/20/2010, 12:46 PM
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superman7
superman7 - 3/20/2010, 12:55 PM
@ DannyRandom & BreakUBatman:
great points!


@ NightAvenger4:
I thought that too after StarTrek, But trust me after you read JJ Abrams initial script you would scream GOD NOOOOO!!! He does not belong anywhere near superman.
If you would like to read it, here it is:
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/Superman-JJAbrams.pdf

If you wanna skip that and just read a review (where everything from the script is touched upon) then read this:
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/movies/movies.php?topic=jjabrams-review
Upupandaway
Upupandaway - 3/20/2010, 1:11 PM
@KeithM: Very well thought out article. Superman's best stories are team-ups for that very reason. That's why I think Kingdom Come is such a great book because it works with some of those themes. Multiple villains in the next film could possible help with that.

And great shout out to Astro City.
InTylerWeTrust
InTylerWeTrust - 3/20/2010, 1:14 PM
As long as JJ doesn't write the script, he should be the director.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 3/20/2010, 1:22 PM
I HAVENT SEEN ZACK SNYDER DO A VIDEOGAME ADAPTION YET..
AvengingAngel1022
AvengingAngel1022 - 3/20/2010, 1:46 PM
you would make superman proud
superman7
superman7 - 3/20/2010, 1:51 PM
Saw this and thought 'not half bad' haha

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