THE FLASH Director Justifies Decision Not To Adapt Fan-Favorite Elements Of FLASHPOINT Comic Book

THE FLASH Director Justifies Decision Not To Adapt Fan-Favorite Elements Of FLASHPOINT Comic Book

For those of you disappointed that The Flash doesn't include the Flashpoint Batman or a war between Themyscira and Atlantis, director Andy Muschietti has now shared some insights into his thought process.

By JoshWilding - Jun 16, 2023 06:06 AM EST
Filed Under: The Flash
Source: Entertainment Weekly

Since Warner Bros. first announced plans for The Flash, the movie has passed through the hands of multiple writers and directors. Andy Muschietti, however, eventually agreed to take charge of a version written by Harley Quinn: Birds of Prey scribe Christina Hodson.

Like every other take on the Scarlet Speedster's first big screen solo outing, the Flashpoint comic book is used as the basis for this story. However, it's only a very loose adaptation and Muschietti addressed that decision in a conversation with Entertainment Weekly

"I can tell you that I read all the iterations," he says. "My pitch was essentially about the emotional core and heart of the movie. I knew I could do a superhero movie with all the traits: scope, size, spectacularity. But probably the most difficult thing was to provide a strong emotional story. And we found it."

Along the way, that meant ditching some familiar elements from the source material. Among the most noteworthy exclusions are Thomas Wayne being Batman (Jeffrey Dean Morgan was long rumoured for the role) and the war between Aquaman and Wonder Woman's respective nations.

"We didn't want to give the audience a literal adaptation of the comic book," Muschietti explains. "I think that's one of the good decisions that we made."

"If you see the movie, you don't know where this is going. And as much as some people would've liked to see that literal adaptation, I think we did the right thing. I think that they will be gratified by seeing that the story takes another direction."

Muschietti's comments do make sense. Still, you could argue that scrapping the younger Barry Allen's role and focusing on only one Flash being lost in time might have opened the door to adapting some of those fan-favourite elements (Cyborg was once set to appear, in fairness, but Ray Fisher declined a cameo).

The Flash is now playing in theaters.

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pitbull76
pitbull76 - 6/16/2023, 6:45 AM
You know I have always said if you're a true comic book fan why would you want to see a story turned into a movie that scene for scene came from the panels.would I like to see some of it in the movie yes but I also want to be surprised.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/16/2023, 7:32 AM
@pitbull76 - Two of the best comic book movies of all time are damn near panel for panel reflections of the comics. Sin City and 300.

But first of all, what does being a "true comic fan" have to do with wanting to see something play out in a movie panel for panel? Being a "true comic fan" has nothing to do with that. And what is a "true comic fan"? Who gets to decide who is a "true fan" or not?

Also, if someone wants a panel for panel reproduction of the comics, doesn't that make them a "true fan" of the comics? That means they love the comics so much that they don't want to see anything play out differently from the comics.

Look at it like this. The comics are what made these characters popular enough to even get movies made about them in the first place. So why would you mess with that formula? By changing things from the comics you are running the risk of it not being as good. Right off the bat. Before anyone even sees it, you are risking making something that fans will not love as much as the comics.

Second of all, every comic fan should know that it's nearly impossible to make a panel for panel adaptation of the comics for franchises that have been around for 70+ years. Unless you start with issue #1 and go from there, it's just not possible. So changes do need to be made. No one has ever said that Marvel or DC movies should be panel for panel adaptations of the comics.

Third, what fans hope for is a fair adaptation of the comics. Meaning, get the characters right, and if you're going to make films of popular comic stories, do it justice. The X-Men animated series did an awesome job of this. It took the 90's Era X-Men team and threw them into popular Claremont Era stories. But the stories were told faithfully.

So, if there are fan favorite moments from a popular story, don't you think that should be included in a film to some degree? Choosing not to include it goes back to my original point. If you purposely change things from the comic, then you are risking it not being as well received as the comic, straight away.

It's like showing a burnt Robin suit full of gunshot holes, but not showing the scene of Robin actually getting killed.

It's like doing Dark Phoenix but not making the Phoenix Force a cosmic entity.

There are things people expect to be present in these adaptations. And when they aren't, people are disappointed by it. It's really that simple. It has nothing to do with fans expecting a panel for panel adaptation.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/16/2023, 7:40 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I notice you never get people saying this about 'real' books.

Those Kenneth Branagh Poirot movies are pretty good but you don't hear the Agatha Christie fans complaining about the lack of surprise.

If you love a book you'll read it over and over, same with movies. If you want it to be different, read or watch something else.
pitbull76
pitbull76 - 6/16/2023, 7:40 AM
@CorndogBurglar - I can't lie you make alot of great points maybe I should of worded it better then to say true comic fans.I think subconsciously I was thinking of my self.i mean Watchmen was literally panel for panel in fact Zack used the comic as his story boards.Also could not agree more on the X-Men animated series nailed it that is why I was always pissed off fox never did understand the characters.Hell on the first movie Brayan Singer told the cast to stay away from the comic books and do not use them as inspiration for they characters they were playing like wtf.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/16/2023, 7:45 AM
@pitbull76 - Marvel Studios were saying the same stuff recently. They were telling writers to stay away from the comics and hiring writers on the specific basis that they had never read the comics. Hell the writer of DS-MOM hadn't even watched Wandavision.

I'm glad it hasn't effected the quality or success of Phase 4 and 5 though.
philinterrupted
philinterrupted - 6/16/2023, 7:54 AM
@CorndogBurglar -
cham2119
cham2119 - 6/16/2023, 10:11 AM
@pitbull76 - I’m not gonna lie I was ready to lay in for the true comic book fan thing but seeing the realtime exchange of perspectives here really gave me pause. Don’t see this often
cubichy
cubichy - 6/16/2023, 6:50 AM
I agree, but what about Keaton as waynes father...who knows. I hate when thise wannabes change the source material, the war was a very powerful sideshow, tons of stories, sex, violence, emotions there. Brids of prey was shit, so wouldn't use anything from that scribe.the other major hole is...why invent a dark flash, and not explain it, when you have archnemesis reverse flash right there. He could be a thanos level villain for dceu.. thats why the comic worked and this smuck...changes it. Regardless, I am seeing it this weekend, first time back at movies since disaster love and blunder.
Mrcool210
Mrcool210 - 6/16/2023, 7:01 AM
Honestly you could have had the movie still be Thomas Wayne and it wouldn't have been any different. There was no scene in this movie that screamed to me that it HAD to be Keaton in this movie.



Like no way home had scenes that made it so that it had to be Maguire and Garfield in the movie like catching MJ or stopping Peter 1 stabbing goblin.



I know it's Barry's story but if we had a scene like that for Keaton than his inclusion would have been more appreciated. Literally could have even been a new batman weve never seen before and there would be minimal changes.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 6/16/2023, 7:07 AM
I saw the Flash yesterday it quickly turns into such a blur of nonsense that its early charms are all but wiped away, and the film runs out of steam as it drags to the nearly two-and-a-half-hour mark.

The two Flashes reminded me of these two but with no real jokes or humor.

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