Is Marvel Trying to Tank Thor?

Is Marvel Trying to Tank Thor?

Midnight screening of Tron Legacy leaves me wondering why THOR trailer wasn't attached to it.

Editorial Opinion
By SmokinIndo - Dec 17, 2010 03:12 AM EST
Filed Under: Thor

I'm sure some people will recognize that I have been very critical of Marvel's marketing campaign thus far. DC has been on a roll while Marvel has been quite sluggish in getting their movies out to the general audience. DC's newest blockbuster Green Lantern actually had an Entertainment Weekly ad put out a month or two before comic-con 2010. While Marvel had the much coveted THOR footage shown and then "leaked", it wasn't something your average movie-goer was exposed to.

A month before Thor was even heard of, the Green Lantern trailer was shown... in front of Harry Potter no less. Every person and their dog went to go see that movie. Along with the trailer, DC released one helluva eye-grabbing poster. Now the general opinion was that the trailer sucked. However, if you know how drill a crappy product into your audience's head, then the crappy product will sell. Like HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead. HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead. HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead.

Then the Thor trailer came out. Finally. Now, the Thor trailer should have come out a month before the Green Lantern trailer simply because Thor is coming out a month before Green Lantern is. But no... It came out a month AFTER. That makes no sense whatsoever. But whatever, because Thor is supposed to appear before the massively packed audience at the TRON premiere.

Nope.

It came out before Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader.

Just a little figure for you. The worldwide opening weekend for Narnia:
$81,000,000
The worldwide opening weekend for Harry Potter:
$330,000,000

When I went to the midnight showing of HP, there were several showings of it and each one of them had a mile-long line just to see the movie. When I went to the midnight showing of Narnia JUST to see the Thor trailer. There were five people there. I mean... did Marvel somehow not see this coming? Who decided that it would be a good idea to put it in front of NARNIA? The people that go to see Narnia have no interest in an action-adventure superhero movie like Thor. Sure, both movies are fantasy. But they're two totally different types of fantasy. It's like comparing Lord of the Rings to Eragon. But you know what? I let it go because I figured the same Thor trailer would appear in front of Tron Legacy.

When I arrived at the midnight showing of Tron Legacy, I was extremely pumped. I was excited to see Tron. But I was also excited to be there with my friends, who hadn't seen the Thor trailer yet, and I would get to see it in front of a massive audience who actually gives two shits. I told all my friends to watch out for the Thor trailer. I bet you can guess what happens. I didn't get the Thor trailer. But I'll tell you what I did get...

The previews open up with Ryan Reynolds' big, fat ego waking up after a one-night stand, saying corny ass jokes, taking pants off, and then flying planes.
But no gods and armors to be seen.

This is especially alarming because DISNEY is making Tron and DISNEY is also making Thor. I mean, even if Disney for some absurd reason decided not to put Thor in front of Tron, why attach the main competition, WARNER BROS? And while technically every studio is competition for Disney, WB and Disney have been at each other's necks for more than half a century. Whether it's old cartoons or television shows or box office breadwinners...they've been chief rivals. And now, they're competing even more but this time with superhero movies.

So basically, Green Lantern got trailers in front of TWO of this year's BIGGEST films, while Thor got a trailer in front of one of this year's biggest BOMBS. It doesn't matter how good the trailer is if people aren't seeing it. It might as well be The Smurfs. I'm not telling ya'll this from a deluded Marvel fanboy's perspective. I'm telling ya'll this from a business perspective. Marvel ain't putting out, and they're going to lose sorely because of it. DC is stomping all over Marvel as far as audience attention is concerned. And right now, I think it's absurd to believe that Thor is going to come even CLOSE to matching Green Lantern's B.O. peformance.

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Denn1s
Denn1s - 12/17/2010, 3:44 AM
the trailers aren't released worldwide simultaneously... here in greece it hasn't been shown yet...
TheDarqueOne
TheDarqueOne - 12/17/2010, 5:18 AM
I see the point you are trying to make but that is about it. But seriously even the idea that Marvel is not doing it's best to promote Thor is kinda silly.

KingRob
KingRob - 12/17/2010, 6:12 AM
Harry Potter is made by Warner Brothers. Green Lantern is a DC comic, owned by Warner Brothers. Marvel movies are made by Marvel a division of Disney. You're dumb.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 12/17/2010, 8:00 AM
wow...

Yes, Marvel is trying to make their own movie fail...

are you serious with this?
Wadey09
Wadey09 - 12/17/2010, 8:16 AM
ummmmmmm.........
i saw Narnia and the Thor trailer wasn't attached at my screening. just Dark of the Moon.
BillyCoffin
BillyCoffin - 12/17/2010, 8:55 AM
Obviously Marvel isn't trying to make thier own movies fail, I think that people just have less interest in Marvel lately,I know I have.
ThomasRochester
ThomasRochester - 12/17/2010, 9:00 AM
man i hope they have the Thor trailer at my screening of Tron, because i went to Narnia just for the trailer and didnt get it, im so stoked to see this trailer in 3D
ima be pissed if i get transformers trailer again >:O
ThreeBigTacos
ThreeBigTacos - 12/17/2010, 9:10 AM
Thor is attached to Tron. The projectionist who built up that movie at the theater you went probably just didn't put it on. See trailers dont come automatically attached. It's up to the projectionist to build it up the movie (if it's not digital) and attached trailers, and it's usually whatever they want to see in front of a movie.
SmokinIndo
SmokinIndo - 12/17/2010, 9:28 AM
Obviously the title of my post is an exaggeration on the fact that Thor has not been receiving nearly as much media attention as Green Lantern has. Obviously a movie wouldn't try to tank itself, but a studio can still utterly fail at its marketing. If I recall, Marvel really fell short on marketing The Incredible Hulk.

Harry Potter is made by Warner Brothers. Green Lantern is a DC comic, owned by Warner Brothers. Marvel movies are made by Marvel a division of Disney. You're dumb.

You're dumb. Of course I know which studios owns what. That's all the more reasoning why Thor SHOULD have appeared before Tron: Legacy if Disney owns both Marvel and Tron.

Also, Disney isn't 'making' Thor, Marvel is. Disney only bought the distribution rights to Avengers, Iron Man 3, and onwards, but Paramount will distribute Cap and Thor.

If Disney bought Marvel a year ago, then wouldn't Disney be making it by default? I mean... the connections are obviously there.

If Paramount is the one responsible for marketing, then I'm kinda wondering if there's a little animosity over losing the Avengers and Iron Man 3 distribution rights. Yes they were sold fair and square to Disney. But from this point onward Paramount is essentially endorsing the future of Disney. Just saying that Paramount could be saying something to Disney...

But the fact that the Thor trailer DID appear before Tron Legacy is cooling me down inside.

@ThreeBigTacos

Thanks for clearing that up for me. See, I actually thought that the trailers came attached with the film. But I guess not. Obviously the projectionist at my theater must be a DC fan. Grrr...

So does this mean that Thor can essentially be shown in front of any movie? If the projectionist decided that Thor was going to be in front of "Tangled," could put it? (I'm just using a hypothetical movie. I know tangled came out before the Thor trailer.)
ThreeBigTacos
ThreeBigTacos - 12/17/2010, 10:54 AM
@Indoraptor: Yea essentially any trailer is at the will of the projectionist. There are guidelines, such as Rated R trailers can't be attached to anything less than a PG-13 movie. There are also some that HAVE to be attached. Sony usually has a few trailers that MUST be attached to their movies, where as Disney doesn't mind most of the time as long as you advertise at least one Disney movie. So to help you out, that projectionist you had was a DC Fanboy. Lol

P.s. Just to clear this up: even if a film is digital or 3D it still needs to be built up and trailers still get attached, it's just on a computer rather than physically being built.
ThomasRochester
ThomasRochester - 12/17/2010, 1:43 PM
yeah.....no Thor trailer before Tron for me :/ i got black swan?!?!?! and pirates 4......thats it.....everyone was pissed
chaps
chaps - 12/17/2010, 5:50 PM
Who cares? Why don't u address the fact that the WB released a subpar trailer?
chaps
chaps - 12/17/2010, 5:54 PM
Who cares? Why don't u address the fact that the WB released a subpar trailer?
heyDS
heyDS - 12/18/2010, 12:27 PM
Indoraptor, I'm not trying to be a jerk but this really was a no point piece. No really, no insults aimed at you man. How I make sense out of all this is Disney sounds like their being loyal to their product. I recall when I go to a movie and it's a Disney piece...It's all Disney trailers. If I got to most other movies is it not a mixture of companies trailers? I could be wrong here and If I am it shows how little I pay attention and how much of a zombie I am getting dragged to movies with my wife. lol. Say I'm wrong here...I still don't see a big deal. Tron I'm sure to the eyes of Disney was expected to be huge. However, sh%^ happens. It flopped compared to other movies as you mention the HP series. If they could see the future I'm sure they might see it your way.
dahamma
dahamma - 12/18/2010, 5:28 PM
i saw tron imax 3d and Thor was attached
dahamma
dahamma - 12/18/2010, 5:35 PM
oh.. and it was beautiful ;)
conformist21
conformist21 - 12/18/2010, 11:14 PM
i got transformers 3, pirates, and thor
TrueBlue
TrueBlue - 12/19/2010, 3:31 AM
And just to get this in here. The first green lantern ad was retarded. the one wiht the Corps logo over most of the page made me think of the logo for Five gum. When it first got put up I overlooked it like six time thinking it was a gum ad. great marketing DC.
HelaGood
HelaGood - 12/20/2010, 9:02 AM
Green Lantern NEEDS promotion and marketing because its gonna be awful!

Thor on the other hand will do just fine without saturating the market ahead of time.
Amazo
Amazo - 12/22/2010, 2:03 PM
I can't see Warners playing their competitors trailers before their movies somehow.Thats why Green Lantern was before HP,and Thor before Tron etc
Why would a studio spend millions on a picture then intentionally scupper its potential to make back its costs?You're argument/rant makes no sense mate.
I think they were just getting the shots they wanted in the trailer together and finished to standard.Simple
Amazo
Amazo - 12/22/2010, 2:10 PM
@HeyDS
How can you claim Tron flopped when it had a bigger opening weekend than Avatar,off season(ie Not in the summer like most fantasy blockbusters),and with over 200 of the cinemas it was to be shown in closed due to bad weather????That sounds to me like a run away success!
TheSchemer
TheSchemer - 12/27/2010, 9:34 PM
First of all Narnia didn't flop. It did about as well as was expected.

Second, my friends and I (we're talking not just one or two) were all REALLY stoked to see Narnia, and we are all REALLY stoked to see Thor, so don't overgeneralize please.

On the other side, I totally get how it can seem that people don't have a clue about promoting a film. Speaking of Narnia, that was the worst promoting of a film ever (hyperbole).
flames809
flames809 - 1/4/2011, 7:35 PM
wow your wrong about the general public didn't like the green lantern trailer thing cause they did when that trailer came out was the most talk about and is still talk about.
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