THUNDERBOLTS: 5 Reasons The Marvel Cinematic Universe's Roster Is A Major Disappointment

THUNDERBOLTS: 5 Reasons The Marvel Cinematic Universe's Roster Is A Major Disappointment

Marvel Studios revealed the Thunderbolts team during D23, and if this is really it, we can't help but feel they've majorly dropped the ball with a team that's disappointingly bland and lacking in variety!

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By HamiltonParker - Sep 12, 2022 12:09 PM EST
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At the San Diego Comic-Con, Marvel Studios finally confirmed that a Thunderbolts movie is on the way. Set for release on July 26, 2024, Black Widow and The Falcon and The Winter Soldier laid the groundwork for them to assemble; little did we know that would be as far as Valentina Allegra de Fontaine's recruitment drive would go. 

At D23, Marvel Studios revealed a first look at the MCU's version of the team and fans have since expressed disappointment with the direction Thunderbolts is heading in. 

The film not only feels somewhat unambitious in terms of the characters that make up this group, but also a far cry from what we're used to seeing from the Thunderbolts on the page. It's still very early days, and more surprises may be on the horizon, but as things stand, this team is one we can wait to see assemble.

See why we're majorly disappointed by the Thunderbolts lineup by clicking on the NEXT button!
 

5. They (Almost) All Do The Same Thing

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The Falcon and The Winter Soldier explored the importance of Super Soldiers in the MCU, while She-Hulk: Attorney at Law is in the midst of teasing a mysterious villain who is trying to steal Jennifer Walters' blood in order to create more Hulks. Someone - The Leader, we're guessing - wants to create more superpowered beings, and Thunderbolts will likely be part of that story.

That could go some way towards explaining why the team has so many Super Soldiers on the roster, but boy, is it still disappointing to see. Red Guardian, Bucky, and U.S. Agent all have the same abilities. Yelena Belova and Taskmaster are also enhanced individuals, and essentially the same...but different. 

Ghost brings a little variety, though this is still a boring roster of extremely similar characters. We just hope they're fighting a fellow Super Soldier, because if Val is assembling her version of The Avengers, we really don't think this lot would fare all that well against world-ending threats like Ultron or Thanos.
 

4. So This Film Is A Black Widow/Falcon And Winter Soldier Sequel?

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Black Widow was supposed to be released before The Falcon and The Winter Soldier, though the order of Val's appearances ultimately didn't matter. In the former, she sent Yelena Belova after Hawkeye, though her reason for doing so still isn't clear. 

As for what we saw on the small screen, Val recruited former Captain America John Walker and made him her U.S. Agent. Fans immediately started wondering where they might see her next, but it appears the mysterious government agent didn't need to travel any further than these two MCU projects. 

Ghost was probably recruited offscreen following the events of Ant-Man and The Wasp. Even though we welcome getting to see all these characters from Black Widow and The Falcon and The Winter Soldier again, we didn't anticipate them all being shoehorned into the same movie (sequel?).
 

3. Been There, Done That...

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We've established that the MCU's Thunderbolts are all essentially Super Soldiers, but does that really matter? On the one hand, no. After all, who wouldn't want to see Bucky clashing with U.S. Agent or Yelena Belova reliving her shared history with Red Guardian? The problem is, we've seen it all before. 

Yes, there's fun to be had with Red Guardian and Bucky hanging out or Taskmaster potentially striking up an unlikely friendship with Ghost, but for the most part, Marvel Studios has missed the point of what made seeing The Avengers assemble so much fun in the first place. 

Bringing together all those different characters like Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor was a blast, but making Thunderbolts a follow-up to stories that kicked off in Black Widow and The Falcon and The Winter Soldier negates that to a large extent. We get that a sequel to that film and a season 2 might not have been a priority, but this shouldn't be where their stories continue. 
 

2. Some Obvious Missing Candidates

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Look, it's always possible that the team revealed at D23 isn't it for the Thunderbolts. Marvel Studios might just be looking to preserve future surprises, but there are some existing MCU characters who should have definitely been part of the team. 

Where's the emotionless Vision introduced in WandaVision? How about Abomination or an Agatha Harkness that Val has somehow figured out how to control? We'd have also loved to see Moon Knight, the new Hawkeye, and even some heroes that believe they're doing the right thing like Shang-Chi and Hercules. 

There are plenty of new characters who could have been introduced, too, and while William Hurt's death may have complicated things with Red Hulk, there being no sign of that violent Hulk is a real missed opportunity. Zemo is another huge omission, though we've got more to say about him in our final slide...
 

1. Where Are The Original Team Members?

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For better or worse, Marvel Studios appears to have abandoned the idea of the Thunderbolts being a team of villains who assemble to fool the world into thinking they're heroes (becoming good guys, for the most part, in the process). They're also not a Task Force X-style group of convicts, though that's no big deal after two Suicide Squad movies.

We'd say it's possible that Baron Zemo will factor into Thunderbolts, but what about other classic members of this team who are M.I.A.?

Are we seriously meant to believe there was absolutely no way to include the likes of Atlas, Moonstone, Songbird, and Jolt? Even one of them would have been welcome, especially as they would be new additions to the MCU. Again, it could be Marvel Studios is still in the casting stage...for now, however, it feels like the ball has been dropped in a big way here. 
 

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marvel72
marvel72 - 9/12/2022, 12:52 PM
I would have loved them to have tried and pull off the comic book ending of issue 1,that would have a good twist.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 9/12/2022, 12:55 PM
Yeah, someone made mention of the evil Captain America being on the team and I had to ask them which one they were talking about.

And not having Zemo and Songbird makes it not really feel like the Thunderbolts to me. Like making a first Avengers movie and not having Iron Man and Captain America.
ColdSlither
ColdSlither - 9/12/2022, 1:02 PM
@TheUnworthyThor - Only thing I can think of is that it's the actor. Either he likes his status quo, and doesn't want to be tied down to such a contract. Or there's still some legal things being worked out, and he'll be introduced at a later date.
DCasAhobby
DCasAhobby - 9/12/2022, 12:58 PM
This is hate simply for hates sake. Pure clickbait.

There's been umpteen thousand movies and stories where teams have similar powers. That's far and away the vast majority like 98% percent. From TMNT to Power Rangers, Suicide Squad etc... but lets now pretend it's a damning problem because Marvel.

Being king definetly has it's issues
AmazingFILMporg
AmazingFILMporg - 9/12/2022, 2:43 PM
@DCasAhobby -


Saying they're the same is like a child argument. The characters are all different! They have awesome character development. Even taskmaster who I hope dies a quick death has development.


I don't care about power sets. All of them are a threat. None of them just have a baseball bat💁


GhostDog
GhostDog - 9/12/2022, 1:00 PM
The roster is a lot of super soldiers but I think this is a chance to tap into a more grounded avengers-esque team who are dealing with more human and/or espionage level threats.

You could also have fun with the fact that it’s obvious they don’t have any gods and armored warriors. They’re the B team for B level, yet still significant, threats that the Avengers would never bother with. They’re all also incredibly morally grey, so the govt won’t have issues with asking them to do certain things. No push back from a Cap type.
slickrickdesigns
slickrickdesigns - 9/12/2022, 1:00 PM
Really was the first thing I noticed is the diversity of skill sets. 3 super soldiers, 3 elite spies and one phase shifting soldier spy. This is a great team for battling against normys. (Normys = normal humans)
Let’s just say I expect them to recruit Abomination at least.
Also I don’t see how Zemo could end up being a part of the Thunderbolts when he was so against Super soldiers in Civil War. Maybe Zemo could be a villain for them to go up against.
thewanderer
thewanderer - 9/12/2022, 1:11 PM
@slickrickdesigns - I still think Secret Invasion, ANew World Order and Thunderbolts are leading us towards a Masters of Evil being formed.
Fanmar16
Fanmar16 - 9/12/2022, 1:03 PM
This has been building for a long time and you say disappointment? everyone already knew who the Thunderbolts were going to be except you, by the way, I'm 100% sure this isn't the whole team and Zemo is the villain.
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 9/12/2022, 1:03 PM
They never cared for what you want... Why are you people always surprised... 😂 🤣 😂...
528491
528491 - 9/12/2022, 1:04 PM
Josh aka Hamilton Parker aka Ruby Goldstone posting a headline graphic reading "They're all the same!"... Who says the man doesn't get irony? Bravo!
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 9/12/2022, 1:08 PM
@528491 - 🤣 the comment needs to be moved up the chain
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 9/12/2022, 1:06 PM
There's a theory going around that this is not-so-secretly a Black Widow (Yelena) sequel and that's why the team looks the way it does.
Vigor
Vigor - 9/12/2022, 2:01 PM
@RitoRevolto - that would be cool!
See it from the perspective of Yelena. I like it
TheRose
TheRose - 9/12/2022, 1:07 PM
I posted this on r/MCUTheories, but I hope we only saw ONE Thunderbolts team.

So, Feige said something that got me thinking. He is talking about Julia Louis-Dreyfus' character, Contessa Valentina Allegra Fontaine, and calls out that she has an important role to the story.
"In this movie, [she is] responsible for everything that happens."

My theory is that the lineup presented at D23 is not the first, but second incarnation of the team. Fontaine is regretting putting Zemo in charge of a group of "untested agents." He has radicalized them and turned them into his team. It would be easy to eliminate them...except this team is masquerading as a group of heroes. Only John Walker remained true to the mission, leaving his defectors. The new mission is to take out the heroic "Thunderbolts" that went rogue.

This way, we get the government covert ops story AND the villains posing as heroes story. We can still introduce characters as the "untested agents" like Songbird, Atlas, Moonstone, Radioactive Man, etc. Of course, this also opens the door to recurring villainous MCU baddies like Batroc, Justin Hammer, The Tinkerer, and (if he is fooling She-Hulk) Abomination.

At the end, defeated, Zemo realizes that any attempt at doing good in this world is for naught. He gathers whatever members he can and runs off on the path toward building the Masters of Evil.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 9/12/2022, 1:09 PM
I like these characters but this roster does make it seem more like Black Widow 2 (which I would like to see) and not so much Thunderbolts. The team lineup has really killed a lot of my hype for this but still hoping for the best with it.
EgoEgor
EgoEgor - 9/12/2022, 1:11 PM
I think this group just needs Abomination. Every hero group needs a brute.


Valentina is general
Yelena is squad leader (though I think US Agent should be the leader, he still could be)
US Agent is second in command
Abomination is the muscle
Red Guardian is the comedic relief
Taskmaster is the martial arts expert/range attacker
Ghost is the tech person

Winter Soldier is completely miscast in this imo. Substitute Winter Soldier with Abomination and it's a decent team.
ager
ager - 9/12/2022, 8:34 PM
@EgoEgor - I assumed he'd be here or (where I was hoping) in Wakanda ESPECIALLY after BP's death. There as the White Wolf finally shedding his Winter Soldier moniker
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 9/12/2022, 1:12 PM
If I were choosing a roster for a first Thunderbolts movie at this point in the MCU I think I would go with something like Baron Zemo, Songbird, Ghost, Taskmaster, Ares, Abomination, Moonstone, and Zeke Stane.
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