Arrow: Connor Hawke Theory

Arrow:  Connor Hawke Theory

SPOILERS AHEAD! In the latest episode of Arrow, "Seeing Red" It was teased(might as well say confirmed) that Oliver has a child. I'll explain why I believe his child is Connor Hawke, and how he could be presented on the show at an increased aged...

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By RextheKing - Apr 24, 2014 08:04 PM EST
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THIS ARTICLE WILL CONTAIN SPOILERS FROM THE LATEST EPISODE OF ARROW "SEEING RED" SO READ AT YOUR OWN RISK.


In the latest episode of Arrow, we learn that Oliver got, a yet to be named, young lady pregnant seven years prior to the show's current timeline.  We know that Oliver doesn't know that the unamed female was payed off by Moria Queen to lie to Oliver about having miscarriage.  Given that the show teased that Oliver is actually a father to a, yet to be revealed child, it's safe to say that the child do exist in the Arrowverse, even though it's yet to be 100% confirmed.

In the comics Oliver has three sons, Roy Harper(adopted), Robert Queen(son of Shado), and Connor Hawke(son of Sandra Hawke).  Roy already exist in this universe, and I highly doubt they'll mess with the source material and have a twist where Roy is actually Oliver's son; it was teased that his unamed child would grow up in Central City and we know Roy grew up in Starling City.  Given that Shado is dead(?) and that the young lady Oliver impregnated was indeed not Shado, the child is unlikely to be Arrowverse's Robert Queen; the child most likely will not know of his father, so he would take his mother's maiden name, and with the unamed mother being payed to keep distance from Oliver, naming the child after his grandfather would not be wise.  Even though there is probably not an Arrow fan out there(that knows their Green Arrow source material) that doesn't believe the unamed child is Connor Hawke and the mother is Sandra Hawke, these are the reasons why I believe, if the child is male, that it is indeed an Arrowverse Connor Hawke.

This theory will indeed be a long shot, but here me out.  While I am extremely happy that Connor Hawke may possibly exist in Arrowverse, I was a little bit disappointed when I realize he'd be no more than 7 years of age in the current timeline of the show.  This disappointment led me to the theory that A.R.G.U.S, maybe with Cadmus Labs as a subdivison(if they introduce Cadmus on the show) accelerated Connor Hawke's aging process.  Why? How?  In a previous episode of Arrow, we learned that Oliver and Amanda Waller have some form of past together, most likely during the time Oliver was missing for five years.  If Amanda Waller was associated with Oliver, during his time on the island, she probably knows what he went through, to be forged into the weapon he is now.  It's known that Amanda Waller has gripes against heroes and vigilantes, unless they can be controlled by her.  With her knowledge of what Oliver has gone through on the island, and a huge government agency in her pocket, she could easily learn that Connor Hawke is Oliver's son, remove him from his mother, have a lab(Cadmus?) accelerate his aging process, plant fake memories, then stage a similar experience that Oliver went through on the island, for Connor to endure, fake a rescue, and then she'll have her own personal Arrow to control.  Why would she need Connor?  Well, similar to how Terry McGinnis(Batman Beyond) was created.  In the DCAU Amanda Waller went out of her way to create a Batman for the future by altering Terry's legal father's reproductive system, making his sperm consist of Bruce Wayne's DNA.  Amanda knew it would take more than just putting someone through a similar experience as another, to get similar results, so she got rid of some of the variables by making her futre Batman, Bruce Wayne's son.  In this case, Oliver already has a son, so she doesn't need to go to as great of lengths, to forge a new Arrow.

So what do you think?  Do you think the theory is possible?  Let me know below!

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RextheKing
RextheKing - 4/24/2014, 9:30 PM
@GliderMan, I'm with you on that(the getting the girl pregnant at 13 or 14 part), but I don't know about you but I really want to see a Connor Hawke between the age 16-21 on the show, but unless his age is accelerated or they give us a surprise future episode, it's not going to happen, which is why I came up with my theory.
JBatesyFilmreviews
JBatesyFilmreviews - 4/25/2014, 3:13 AM
I honestly don't mind that Connor will only be 6-7 in the show because at the moment we still don't have arsenal or red arrow (not properly anyway) so in season 3 I would however like Oliver to raise the child but not as an archer and maybe as the kid gets older he starts to find out about his dad being the arrow etc but I don't think we need a suited up Conner Hawke... Not yet anyway
kong
kong - 4/25/2014, 3:25 AM
I like the idea and it could still work well. I don't think the people realized that the aging thing was just a way to get him to appear in the show eventually. Even if this show went up to 5 seasons Connor still wouldn't be old enough to be his replacement or sidekick. Maybe if it went Smallville and was on for ten years maybe, but that's not guaranteed.
AC1
AC1 - 4/25/2014, 6:19 AM
I think they're introducing the idea of Ollie being a father as a way of changing the dynamic for a future season. Think about it: Season 1 had Ollie as an anti-hero willing to kill criminals, Season 2 has had him try to be a proper hero and use non-lethal methods unless absolutely necessary, so maybe Season 3 will deal with Ollie's conflict between being a hero (constantly putting his own life at risk) and being a father (meaning he may have a child he needs to protect and raise).

Plus, I guess it sets up an eventual series finale, in that they can end the show with the hint that Connor will become the next Green Arrow when Ollie retires or dies, perhaps with a flashforward or some hint at him beginning to train - which makes sense when you consider that the last shot of The Dark Knight Rises was John Blake discovering the Batcave and seemingly deciding to become the new Batman, and that the creators of Arrow have fully acknowledged that the series is heavily inspired by the Dark Knight trilogy.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 4/25/2014, 7:29 AM
@GliderMan
i agree with this.
Another thing they could do is when they're in between seasons, let a couple years go by (story wise) so that the characters are older, thus we can have a teen/early 20s Connor Hawke around season 6 or so.

its been 6-7 years since the island and he was stranded there around 19 years old, so oliver would be about 25-26 years old right now.

Assuming he got the girl pregnant when he was 14-15 (although he didn't look 15 there, and for the sake of argument, lets say the girl was 18 or something so she was a legal adult) then its possible for Connor Hawke to be 9-10 years old.

Go through season 3, 4, 5 and he'd theoretically be about 14 years old.
so fast forward 3-4 (can do it through season 5 and six, doesn't have to be just inbetween seasons) years in that storyline for season 6, and you have an 18-19 year old Connor hawke.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 4/25/2014, 9:20 AM
If you were talking about the comics, or anything having to do with time travel - then YES, this would be perfectly feasible.

EXAMPLE 1: Madelyn Pryor (Jean's clone, courtesy of Sinister's obsession) gives birth to Nathaniel Summers, and post-"Inferno", we learn that Apocalypse fears' this baby's destiny. He kidnaps Nathan and infects him with the techno-organic virus (couldn't just kill him...). In order to save his life the infant is taken 2000 years into the future by Askani (Rachel, his sister on another timeline) and is raised to be Cable. Trouble is, once you start down that path, you open doors that should otherwise stay closed. People rightfully claim that the Clone Saga was Spider-man's worst story arc ever, but the clone drama was already getting out of hand in the X-Men books. Cable gets cloned because he might not make it, and we get Stryfe, who is basically an angry psychopath version. We get an alternate timeline (Age of Apocalypse) version of Cable called "X-Man". Jean and Scott are SO confused.

EXAMPLE 2: In Doctor Who, River Song is first introduced to the tenth Doctor as his future wife, meeting her husband for the first time in the (his) past when he has no idea who she is. She's able to convince him to trust her after she whispers his name (which no one else could know). The eleventh Doctor meets River again in HER past, where its revealed that she's a time-traveler who's been imprisoned for murder, although she's always escaping. We find out that Amy and Rory conceived River while on the Tardis, and is therefore part Time Lord. Madame Kovarian kidnaps River (originally named Melody Pond) and trains her to be a killer fixated on the Doctor. Upon HER first meeting of the Doctor, she's Amy and Rory's age, and hijacks the Tardis, randomly deciding to go kill Hitler. Traveling to World War II Germany, she gets shot and regenerates into the River Song we all know, and subsequently takes the name that she was named after.

Convoluted MESS!!!!

How about EXAMPLE 3: the Pretender! Jarod was kidnapped at an early age by a secret organization known as the Centre. Isolated in a training facility, Jarod was raised on countless simulations and puzzles in order to condition him to think like other people and anticipate strategies. His solutions would later be used to kill hundreds of people, although he wasn't aware of it. At age 30, he escapes and the Centre goes after him in the present. In season 3, we learn that the Centre has successfully cloned Jarod in order to continue where they left off, although his clone is just a boy named Gemini.

Now I realize that we're not actually talking about cloning someone who's already born - but aging him, training him to be a weapon, just to get another version of Oliver Queen - doesn't sound like a good idea. In fact, it sounds hurried, like series that get way too ahead of themselves because they see this vast potential.

I'm pretty sure that Connor is going to be SEVEN YEARS-OLD when we next see him.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 4/25/2014, 10:57 AM
No idea why people assume the story timeline is going at the same pace as the real life timeline.

the gap between season 2 and season 3 could be 2 years (Season 1 = 1 year timeline, in between seasons 2 years. season 3 = 1 year timeline. total of 4 years passed)

Not EVERY story or plot has to happen one after the other in linear order.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 4/25/2014, 1:09 PM
@Tainted "Now I realize that we're not actually talking about cloning someone who's already born - but aging him, training him to be a weapon, just to get another version of Oliver Queen - doesn't sound like a good idea. In fact, it sounds hurried, like series that get way too ahead of themselves because they see this vast potential."

I agree, if they jumped on this theory right now. My theory was set for at least mid-season 3 or later, to give them time to properly set it up, without it seeming hurried.
HaroldOfGalactus
HaroldOfGalactus - 4/27/2014, 12:39 AM
The whole idea spunds terrible. I for one hope they do not introduce him, but make teases and references to him. Including waller and the like is insanity. Ollies only been acting as a hero for about a year or two story wise.and while he has saved people be isnt that important or influential of a hero for a government agency to go to such great lengths to make another one. Youd think theyd try to 're cuit him first before doing unethical operations and experiments on a child that may not even be anythimg like his dad at all
Trickwil
Trickwil - 4/28/2014, 8:37 AM
Knowing how they do in this show I think he'll be Conner Hawk and will not be old enough to do any sort of crime fighting unless the show goes like 10 years or does a BSG and time jumps forward like 10 years.
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