HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Showrunner Ryan Condol Defends Season 2 Finale's Lack Of Action - SPOILERS

HOUSE OF THE DRAGON Showrunner Ryan Condol Defends Season 2 Finale's Lack Of Action - SPOILERS

The season 2 finale of House of the Dragon has come under fire for basically serving as more set-up for the major battles to come, and showrunner Ryan Condol has now responded...

By MarkCassidy - Aug 07, 2024 08:08 AM EST
Filed Under: Game of Thrones
Source: Via SFF Gazette

The season 2 finale of House of the Dragon aired this past Sunday, with the episode - and the season overall - coming in for quite a bit of backlash.

Season 1 of the Game of Thrones prequel series laid the groundwork for the Targaryen civil war known as the Dance of the Dragons, and season 2... continued to set up the conflict.

Though we did get to see a couple of exciting events such as the Battle of Rook's Rest and the Red Sowing, most of the episodes focused on moving the pieces into place for the major battles to come.

There's nothing wrong with more character-focused drama, of course, but the consensus among fans seems to be that most of the supporting players simply aren't compelling enough to sustain interest, and it seems obvious that HBO is padding out the story as much as possible with repetitive, drawn-out arcs (when it comes to Daemon's season-long sojourn in Harrenhall, it's hard to argue).

Now, showrunner Ryan Condol has defended “The Queen Who Ever Was” from its detractors, explaining that the huge naval Battle of the Gullet the episode builds towards was not shown because they simply didn't have the resources available.

"I mean, one of the challenges of making television at any scale, even this scale, which seems to be one of infinite time and resources, it's just never the case. Nobody has infinite time and resources," Condal began. "As a showrunner, you're always in the position of having to balance storytelling and the resources you have available to tell that story, and you're also starting to think about — and one of the things that came into play in Season 2 — is, what is the final destination of this series and where are we going? And I think it was a combination of factors that led us to rebalance the story, knowing where we're going and where that endpoint is, to rebalance the story in such a way that we had three great seasons of television [after Season 1]... to round out and tell this story."

"That event (the Battle of the Gullet) will happen very shortly in terms of the storytelling in House of the Dragon," he went on. "And it should be, based on what we know now, it should be the biggest thing to date that we've pulled off. And we just wanted to have the time and the space to do that at a level that is going to excite and satisfy the fans in the way it deserves. And we also wanted to build some anticipation towards it."

What do you make of Condol's comments? Were you disappointed by season 2 of House of the Dragon?

"The prequel series finds the Targaryen dynasty at the absolute apex of its power, with more than 15 dragons under their yoke. Most empires—real and imagined—crumble from such heights. In the case of the Targaryens, their slow fall begins almost 193 years before the events of Game of Thrones, when King Viserys Targaryen breaks with a century of tradition by naming his daughter Rhaenyra heir to the Iron Throne. But when Viserys later fathers a son, the court is shocked when Rhaenyra retains her status as his heir, and seeds of division sow friction across the realm."

House of the Dragon season 2 sees Matt Smith, Olivia Cooke, Emma D’Arcy, Eve Best, Steve Toussaint, Fabien Frankel, Ewan Mitchell, Tom Glynn-Carney, Sonoya Mizuno, and Rhys Ifans reprise their respective roles. Additional returning cast includes Harry Collett, Bethany Antonia, Phoebe Campbell, Phia Saban, Jefferson Hall, and Matthew Needham.

The directors for the new season are Alan Taylor (Episodes 1 & 4), Clare Kilner (Episodes 2 & 5), Geeta Patel (Episodes 3 & 8), Andrij Parekh (Episode 6), and Loni Peristere (Episode 7).

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ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 8/7/2024, 8:57 AM
I'm so glad I didn't start this season. Overall feedback I've heard has been pretty disappointing
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 9:00 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - you're just gonna skip straight to season 3 or drop the show altogether or what?
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 8/7/2024, 9:05 AM
@Vigor - I'll probably binge it once feedback gets more positive

Quite honestly I was apprehensive about even watching the first season after how bad we got burned by GoT
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 9:16 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - 2 is weaker than 1 for sure. My wife and I went back last night and watched season 1 episode 1. Man that's some good television. No episode in season 2 matched up to that
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 8/7/2024, 9:57 AM
@ItsNotForMeWahh - It's 2 and a half episodes worth of content stretched out for 8 episodes and it feels that way. If you've read the book it will frustrate you, they've gone out of their way to try and make the females leads look at innocent as possible to the point of parody. Teleportation is officially canon and (spoilers) even after the assassination of a prince, it's still just as easy to slip in and out of Kings Landing.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:19 AM
@HashTagSwagg - "even after the assassination of a prince, it's still just as easy to slip in and out of Kings Landing."

This was easily the most unrealistic thing. Makes our southern border crisis seem like a non issue
YouFlopped
YouFlopped - 8/7/2024, 9:01 AM
i put them horns on the front of the bach
u know drizzy gon roll like a texan 🇺🇸
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 9:09 AM
This isn't a superhero show. Anyone watching GoT/HotD for the action should just skip the show and watch clips on YouTube like the rest of the ADD kids that want to see dragons piss fire.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 9:17 AM
@FireandBlood - I half agree. Because we have been conditioned by game of thrones to expect a big penultimate episode with battles and surprises. This might be the first got adjacent season without a big surprise or battle at the end

Otto being locked up isn't a surprise lol
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/7/2024, 9:23 AM
@FireandBlood - I watch for the same reason I watch anything: an engrossing story, which - aside from what's going on with the two leads - I don't feel I got this season. There's a difference between laying the groundwork in a compelling way to build anticipation and treading water with tedious, boring character arcs.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:08 AM
@FireandBlood - I'm trying not to spoil the story for myself so I've been avoiding reading excerpts from the book. I am aware there are battles to come and tragedy

However note that season 1 was 10 episodes and felt complete. Season 2 is 8 episodes, feels like it was missing a crescendo and now we have to wait minimum two years for the pay off

Everyone I've spoken to acknowledges the stellar writing and acting but feels a bit disappointed we didn't get those remaining 2 episodes this season and a satisfying pay off. Something to talk about for the next two years...

You're the first person I've seen defend this. It's clear from interviews that this came down to more of a budget decision than creative
Whoelsebutkevin
Whoelsebutkevin - 8/7/2024, 10:09 AM
@MarkCassidy - That being said I do agree but I also know this show is gonna get nuts as the show progresses. Battles and dragons fights and Kingsguard charging through Kings Landings streets, it's going to be satisfying because this show is a different animal than GoT. But it's unfortunate we must wait until Season 3 for that.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:12 AM
@Vigor - But that came later. There were no big battles in GoT until S4. They even skipped over early battles with Rob. Here, you know they’re not doing that, and we’ve got two big battles already, just earlier in the seasons than the penultimate episode because like S2, there was no big battle at the end of S1 either, just a major death.

This isn’t a long story, and they’ve added a lot because what was in the books would’ve made a short, half-baked series that only covered major events, and had they not developed the characters and slowed it down, the show would already of been over.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:22 AM
@Vigor - It 100% came down to budget reasons, because the next battle is bigger than anything we’ve seen in Thrones or House up to this point, so they could either half-cook it or do it properly.

People complain about them fumbling the White Walker final, but yet want them to rush from battle to battle with House.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:26 AM
@Vigor - Also my bad, there was 1 battle before S4, the Blackwater, but it took 19 episodes to get to that. We’ve got two out of HotD already and it’s only been 18, and the next season has no choice but to be actioned packed because of where they’re at with the story, and where they’re choosing to end it.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:30 AM
@FireandBlood - that's cool and I'm sure you're right. Doesn't take away from the fact that season 2 felt uneventful to me 🤷🏾‍♂️
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:35 AM
@Vigor - It had a slower back end, but I wouldn’t call it uneventful, not when we got Blood and Cheese, Rooks Rest, the Cargyll Twins and the Dragon Seeding. A lot happened, there just wasn’t non-stop action.
Fares
Fares - 8/7/2024, 9:50 AM
Lack of action isn't necessarily the problem, it's not having enough interesting things going on. Even in Game of Thrones where some parts were slower than others, at least you had several different regions and characters to jump around between, but in HOTD, you don't have that luxury.

Season 1 of HOTD didn't have a whole lot of action, but it felt like there was always something going on from one episode to the next. Whether that was an illusion created by the pacing, dialogue and directing, or it was truly present in the material is irrelevant. I felt it and that's all that matters.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:12 AM
@Fares - that's a very good point. And in GOT everyone had a storyline they cared for and stories they didn't care for. But there was always real momentum no matter what. I didn't care for Aryas story once we she left westeros but at least she kept moving from place to place and encountering challenges

I heard that everything that occurs in season 2 of hotd occurred over just 15 pages of the book. Talk about stretching things out... 😳
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:31 AM
@Vigor - That’s because in the book, there’s no character work, no development. It’s written from the third party perspective of unreliable narrators that covers only major events. It’s not something that can be directly translated to the screen as a coherent television show.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:31 AM
@FireandBlood - I see. So they had to fill in the gaps so to speak
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 8/7/2024, 10:34 AM
@Fares - Exactly. The show thinks its supporting characters are a lot more interesting than they actually are, and that's only because they haven't developed them properly in the first place. Then, in season 2 when do get to spend a bit more time with them, most of them are boring anyway (I'm looking at you, whiny Jace).
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:37 AM
@Vigor - To make the characters actual characters, yeah. If not, they could’ve covered the entire Dance in a single season. The same with Aegon’s conquest.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:38 AM
@MarkCassidy - Jace makes me want to just skip past the teenager years of my kid(s)
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:44 AM
@Vigor - Compared to early Sansa, Jace is actually bearable.
Vigor
Vigor - 8/7/2024, 10:48 AM
@FireandBlood - sansa had room and seasons and tragedies to grow and become a woman. It was beautiful to see
I fear with only 4 seasons, Jace is either meeting an early death before we care about him or he simply won't have the time allotted for us to care (reminder that I dont know what's coming)
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 10:55 AM
@Vigor - All is say is, S3 is gonna be a big one 🤐
Nomis929
Nomis929 - 8/7/2024, 11:04 AM
They should've called the epsiode "The Season Finale that Never Was".

And I actually like this entire season for the most part. Is it as strong as the first? no.

But a lot of the character development was quite substancial this season and I would argue that Episode 4 and 7 was some of the best episodes in the whole series. That battle at Rook's Resk was outstanding!

And while it might seem like Daemon being at Harrenhall may have played out a bit to long, the resolutions of this internal conflict about his past actions being played out by the visions were gratifying for me.

Not to mention the reality of Alicent finally realizing all the damage she done's for her own pride might literaly cause her son's life was really not worth it.

However, that finale just felt like one big trailer for season 3 and that was a shame.

A lot of what was set up in episode 7 ddin't pan out and it seem like thay were stalling for time. It had some good moments (Especially the Cristin Cole and Gwayne conversation and Alicents and Rhayners at the end) but those could have been done at the start of the next episode and still would have the same effect.

And this show is a story taking from a book called "FIRE AND BLOOD" which is about a CIVIL WAR, you have to show some battles and some ACTION!!!

You can't keep saying we're on the brink of war and not show some comflict. I think they reached their peak at epsiode 4 and just coast along the rest of the season albeit with some exceptions (episode 7 being one of them). If they had shown some kind of action or conflict in the finale I wouldn't be as "so-So" on the finale as I am. They shold've started off the epsidoe with actually SHOWING Ameond destroy SHarp Point and killin gthe people.

Anyway, next season better have a susbstantial amount of battles with the armies and the dragons or else they will sereiously start losing viewers.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/7/2024, 11:15 AM
@Nomis929 - They’re coming, and while they might gloss over a few of them like the Battle of Burning Mill, the big ones involving dragons are what they’re preserving the budget for because Rooks Rest was arguably the smallest of them.

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