Could Charlie Cox's DAREDEVIL Appear In CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR?

Josh will delete this because reasons..

@Vegeta So your saying that Dick Grayson wasn't Batman, Bucky wasn't Cap, Scott Lang wasn't Ant Man and John Stewart wasn't Green Lantern? You need to read more comics if you think that mantles can't be passed. It may have not been Murdoc first but Rand was still DAREDEVIL.

@Vegeta
But it WAS Daredevil. Just a different guy in the suit. They all still called him Daredevil.

@Vegeta
That's not my logic. My logic is that Mark Millar genuinely had no idea that Danny Rand had been manipulated into being Daredevil and actually wrote him as Matt Murdock in Civil War. It wasn't until they reached the last stages of editing that they slipped in a line to address that it wasn't Matt, but he was drawn as Matt and everything in Civil War.

@Vegeta

Actually, there's also Raymond Connor (Ultimate Daredevil) so there's more than one

And, I hope Murdock does appear, I have to read Civil War again, but other than the Rand/Daredevil panel, I think I remember there being a quick reference to Murdock

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@Vegeta
I appreciate the super pedantic exacting nature of comic book canon... I really do..., but whenever people talk in detail about anything Marvel has done after around 1988 (especially as it relates to the big events), my eyes glaze over. That's not to say that there aren't good stories from any era, but some quirk in my fandom just prevents modern canon from feeling all that important to me.

Origins are one thing, and arcs are often important, but the ups and downs of the month to month soap opera just does not seem all that relevant to me when it comes to adapting these characters to screen.

As far as Daredevil in Civil War, I'm not broken up about him not getting the call. He and the Netflix cast may not make it to the Infinity Wars, so I'm not expecting them to get shoehorned into an already packed solo film.

@Vegeta
Did I stutter? I never said Murdock was in Civil War, I said Millar wrote him as such due to blind ignorance. The point is: Danny Rand, for that period of time, WAS Daredevil and you can't debate that. Matt wasn't around, Danny took up the Daredevil mantle for a while, end of story. Just because he was manipulated into doing it, doesn't make him any less of what Daredevil is as a character. He still fought the good fight, unlike your other two examples who were just outright posing as Daredevil WHILE Matt was still in action as Daredevil. That's being an imposter, but for that period of time, Matt wasn't Daredevil. Danny was. Just like how Rhodey was Iron Man during Secret Wars, and don't give me that "legacy character" bullshit, because that was more or less the same situation. Rhodey took over as Iron Man while Stark dealt with alcoholism, Rhodey WAS Iron Man for that stint of time. Matt stopped being Daredevil, Danny took over, even if it was a case of being manipulated into the situation. Rand was doing Matt a favour by pretending to be Daredevil, taking the heat of the media away from Matt. Danny Rand, for a very brief period of time, WAS Daredevil. He wasn't doing it to disgrace Matt Murdock, he was doing it to help him. I'm not arguing that Matt isn't the definitive Daredevil, and that seems to be what's fueling your side of this, I'm saying that Danny was Daredevil for a while and you can say he was an imposter all you like but he WAS Daredevil. Blind fanboy love seems to be the foundation on which you've constructed this opinion that Danny was an imposter. Fact of the matter is: Danny Rand WAS Daredevil during Civil War and thus Daredevil was IN Civil War.

Ah, that's so much better.

@KurtWagner1225
Eh, eh, eh don't start that again!

It's as I feared. Rather than merely being used to obscure disruptive individuals, overuse of the block button is rapidly creating islands of homogeneous opinion and temperament. Soon, we will all only post our own opinions without concern for discourse, like shouting into a void.

(There was only one person I really wanted to block, but I haven't seen him post since the feature was added... It's oddly unnerving.)

@Spock0Clock
It was Dexter wasn't it?

@Vegeta

If you'd like, I could get an objective measure of the reasonableness of the exchange.



The standard metric for rationality is a Vulcan formula, so I'll have to convert these readings... One moment...



Yes... it seems, by these instruments, that discussion was... approximately 9000 with an acceptable margin of error.

@NovaCorpsFan

No, he had so many accounts and was so often banned I didn't see the point. I'm not going to say who it is, though. No use making a big deal about it. It will just be nice to never to have to wade through their braying jackassery anymore.

@Spock0clock He isn't right because Danny was Daredevil. There is physical evidence in the form of comic panels that show Danny Rand as Daredevil in the 616 canon for a long period of time, not just 5 issues. Consent has nothing to do with passing a mantle as most of the time the previous mantle holder is dead (Batman, Cap, Blue Beetle). Mantles can even be seized aggressively, like Doc Oc and Spiderman. But they didn't call him Doc Oc masquerading as Spiderman, he was just Spiderman, albeit 'superior'. So if Doc Oc, who stole his right to Spider-Man's legacy can still be called Spiderman then Iron Fist can be Daredevil.

If Daredevil does appear in Civil War then he will be the first character introduced in a TV Show to then appear in a film. I know quite a few characters have traveled in the opposite direction but - as far as I am aware - not from TV .

@NovaCorpsFan
Vegeta was one of the first people I blocked as soon as that button dropped.

I hope they don't stick him in Civil War, if only because it would somewhat undermine the appeal of seeing the eventual Defenders crossover mini-series if we've already seen Daredevil cross-over with the higher stature Avengers characters before it.

Am I the only one who reads @Vegeta 's comments in Vegeta's voice? lol