DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN - New Details Emerge About Marvel Studios’ Original Pilot Plans Before Creative Overhaul

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN - New Details Emerge About Marvel Studios’ Original Pilot Plans Before Creative Overhaul

New details have been revealed about what Daredevil: Born Again looked like before its creative overhaul, specifically regarding the evolution of the show's pilot episode. You can find more details here...

By JoshWilding - Mar 11, 2025 01:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

We've talked a lot about Daredevil: Born Again's "creative overhaul" since the news broke that the series was being taken back to the drawing board by Marvel Studios. 

Chris Ord and Matt Corman were the show's original showrunners but during 2023's Hollywood strikes, the decision was made that their vision for the Man Without Fear wasn't working. Based on what's been leaked and comments from the cast and crew, the previous iteration of Daredevil: Born Again was lacking on costumed action and links to Netflix's Daredevil.

Ord and Corman are still credited for the majority of Daredevil: Born Again's episodes, though we know new showrunner Dario Scardapane came in and rewrote the pilot and the final two episodes. 

Those are a highlight of the season, meaning season 2 will likely be on a whole other level. 

While we're unlikely to ever know what was originally planned for Daredevil: Born Again, some new details have surfaced today courtesy of scooper @MyTimeToShineH

They recently shared, "Finished watching episode 2 of Daredevil: Born Again and WTF that IS the original pilot. So they didn’t scrap it, just turned it into episode 2."

Asked to elaborate today, the insider explained, "It started with Foggy talking and then getting shot off screen, followed by a 'One Year Later' title card and THEN Fisk's speech at Times Square after becoming mayor."

That means a lot of material was added to the premiere, including the build-up to Fisk becoming New York's Mayor and Bullseye's return. It also appears Karen Page was going to be left on the shelf, so as of now, every change Scardapane has made looks to have been hugely beneficial to the Disney+ series. 

It's important to note that Marvel Studios must have been on board with the decision to sever ties with the Netflix series as there's no way Ord and Corman could have got that far without executives agreeing. 

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law and Hawkeye made it pretty clear that the idea was to reimagine Daredevil and the Kingpin as both were far more powerful than their Netflix predecessors. So far, Daredevil: Born Again has dialled that back a little. 

In Marvel Television's Daredevil: Born Again, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox), a blind lawyer with heightened abilities is fighting for justice through his bustling law firm, while former mob boss Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) pursues his own political endeavors in New York. When their past identities begin to emerge, both men find themselves on an inevitable collision course.

"A masterpiece of epic proportions, Daredevil: Born Again delivers a powerful, unmissable take on the Man Without Fear," we said in our review"Putting street-level heroics on the map in a way that promises to change the MCU forever, the show is sublime superhero storytelling on a whole new level."

Daredevil: Born Again's first two episodes are now streaming on Disney+. 

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ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 3/11/2025, 1:48 PM
Still think it was better to start anew but whatever killed the first 2 episodes
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 3/11/2025, 1:49 PM
Liked * not killed
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 1:58 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I would have been fine with that but then don’t bring back Charlie Cox or D’Onofrio in those roles since they are synonymous with the Netflix version (which it seems like this was still vaguely tied to rather then directly post overhaul)

I think audience confusion was a big factor in the overhaul happening which I think was for the best
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/11/2025, 7:20 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - I don't really see much of a point in keeping cast members of the original show if it's not going to be a continuation of it. Feels, to me, like trying to use the accomplishments of one to prop itself up. One reason I think just using the multiverse to have alternate versions of characters we like rather than the versions themselves is pointless. What does it add to have Patrick Stewart being Xavier in MoM if it's not the Fox movies one that I can track the character from
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 3/12/2025, 1:03 PM
@TheVisionary25 - I think they were good in the role to stay on board. I’m not against recasting either I think the connection has limited them in what can be done is all
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/11/2025, 1:53 PM
What we have at the moment is the original rebooted story-line with some re-shoots attached to it to pretend that it's a continuation of Netflix Daredevil and to provide more Daredevil action because the original story-line did not feature him suiting up until the end of what has now become Season 1.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/11/2025, 7:21 PM
@Scarilian - Pretend. Why wouldn't it be. I haven't see anything here the MCU hasn't already done in their continuity.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/12/2025, 9:40 AM
@dagenspear -
I get why Disney would want to pretend it fits with the continuity, but it doesn't and actively devalues both. All the plotlines of Daredevil: Born Again, as of episode 3, are just repeating what happened in the Netflix shows with minor tweaks but the same overall results.

We're now starting on a corrupt killer pretends to be one of the heroes, happened with Bullseye pretending to be Daredevil in Season 3. Happening with a corrupt cop pretending to be Punisher in Daredevil: Born Again.

It's just the same plot beats written worse and given a slightly different coat of paint.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/12/2025, 3:44 PM
@Scarilian - I think it's not pretending anymore than any of the other MCU pretends.

I think those 2 things are different in character and story structure.
asherman93
asherman93 - 3/11/2025, 1:57 PM
So glad they discarded the pilot, then.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 2:21 PM
@asherman93 - yep

So far if it’s the details we have heard are true then I prefer post overhaul then pre.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/11/2025, 3:05 PM
@asherman93 - I mean, it kinda sounds like all they did was add all the year prior stuff and still kept the original pilot (after the jump) with maybe some minor changes to dialogue only.

All the same they were fully correct to show DD suited up in the 'new pilot' and the 'death' of Foggy (if that sticks) as off screen and more vague on if Netflix was canon was a dumb choice to go with.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2025, 2:08 PM
I don’t think we’re going to see Murdock suit up again for another couple of episodes and that’s a shame if I’m right.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 2:13 PM
@WruceBayne - the report said Murdock didn’t suit back up until Ep 4 in the original version which might still be the case.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2025, 2:22 PM
@TheVisionary25 - hopefully that reports correct. I heard on Fatman Beyond podcast that it might not be until episode 6 and that’s a travesty if it is.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/11/2025, 2:34 PM
@WruceBayne -
Originally the story was one extended series of 18 episodes - with Daredevil not suiting up until Episode 9.

Then it was split into two seasons and additional action scenes were added for Daredevil due to backlash. So it's possible we do see him suit up before the final episode of Season 1, but given the core plot is still the original about him trying to not be Daredevil due to him 'losing control of the devil' I think alternatively they'll still want a break from him being in costume.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 2:51 PM
@WruceBayne - we’ll see

Matt wasn’t in costume that much in the original show either to my memory

I just hope the show stays engaging.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2025, 6:11 PM
@Scarilian - episode 9!? I definitely hope that what I heard was wrong and you’re right. I get him not wanting to be Daredevil anymore but I might be the minority here but I want to the vigilante fighting crime not the lawyer.
WruceBayne
WruceBayne - 3/11/2025, 6:13 PM
@TheVisionary25 - the first two episodes of this season definitely hooked me, so I’m going to finish it but I also want my costumed comic book action too.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 6:43 PM
@WruceBayne - I think you’ll get a decent amount but we’ll see.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 3/12/2025, 9:34 AM
@WruceBayne -
Yeah, the show was originally intended as a reboot starting off from a place where Matt had every reason not to suit up as Daredevil. I imagine it has been altered by the reshoots after backlash, but yeah, the appeal for me was seeing the balance between both sides as opposed to him barely fighting crime as Daredevil and just killing people in boring ways when he does.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/11/2025, 2:14 PM
disney's Kirsten McDuffie is a better Foggy then Foggy ever was
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 3/11/2025, 2:22 PM
I could buy this since the new showrunner said that 2 big factors for the overhaul were worries about audience confusion as to whether this was its own thing or connected to the Netflix show aswell as needing more context for the events that happen…

If the original pilot opened with Fisk already have become Mayor then the new version provides a bridge to that in which it sets up the new status quo & establishes characters aswell as the direction of the season which imo is the better way to do it so I’m glad the overhaul happened (also , the new pilot was credited to the new showrunner while apparently the old one which is now ep 2 was to the old ones which means most if not all of their contributions were in those).

I do wonder though if Foggy dying off screen originally but we hearing his voice meant they had brought back Elden Henson for a vocal cameo or was it someone else?.
MakeAmericaGrea
MakeAmericaGrea - 3/11/2025, 2:22 PM
Wait, Disney made bad decisions for an MCU thing?

You can't make up such a thing as that. I dare you to even try.
SpideyPuffsMJ
SpideyPuffsMJ - 3/11/2025, 2:24 PM
Tons of people hate Foggy and Karen I’ve learned. I don’t and the fact that Marvel Studios almost let the show come out the way it’s being described and only Charlie, Vincent and who knows who else had to intervene to prevent it is pretty scary. Marvel genuinely seems a little aimless for the past 5 years. Season 2 will be the real make or break because it’s not 2 different shows spliced together.
MuadDib
MuadDib - 3/11/2025, 2:25 PM
Im a Daredevil fan, and I liked all the Netflix shows, but never loved them. I like Charlie for Matt, but never truly loved him in the role either.

Idk why, but I always envisioned Michael C Hall of Dexter fame as a better Daredevil.

Also, not a fan of Kingpin slimming down, she should remain a fat tub.

Ive been looking forward to Secret Wars mostly bc it gives Marvel the opportunity to recast some roles in a soft reboot kinda way. Super unlikely that it'll apply to Daredevil or any of the other Defenders, since the general audience probably doesn't even know who they are unless they followed the Netflix series which most prob didn't.

Same complaint from the general audience re: Cap America BNW, most didn't watch CA and The Falcon & Winter Soldier and were slightly lost as a result.

I for one am all about shows filling in the blanks between movies, GA be damned.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/11/2025, 2:32 PM
They are wasting episodes with him not in the costume I'm not liking the show so far
SummersEssex
SummersEssex - 3/11/2025, 2:46 PM
Dialed back? Did you not see Daredevil take those cops out without a blink? yeah, he let them beat the s*** out of him but that's only because he was trying not to fight. But once he was up they were DONE, and the only reason Bullseye stood a chance is because we was hucking knives at DD the whole time. They definitely powered him up from the Netflix series, which was the number one change that needed to happen.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/11/2025, 2:54 PM
That's pretty much exactly what my first reaction was last week. Feels like the only thing they changed was shoehorning in the Netflix elements to please the fans.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/11/2025, 2:57 PM
You can totally feel the difference between eps 1 and 2.
Ep 1 is almost too fast, it's all crammed in there a bit ungracefully.
Ep 2 is way too slow. Feels like filler. Ironically it feels more like The Punisher series even though this is the episode with the least amount of Scardapane influence.
redtom
redtom - 3/11/2025, 3:31 PM
Don't be surprised if all the action we saw in Ep1 and 2 is all we get now until the end of S1.
kylo0607
kylo0607 - 3/11/2025, 4:32 PM
@redtom - Uhm...

Matt vs. Thugs (red mask).
DD & Punisher vs corrupt cops.
DD vs. Muse (apartment).
DD vs. Muse (basement).

Did you even watch any of the trailers?

We have plenty of action ahead.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/11/2025, 4:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/live/Uqu3MInxklg?si=o_mOVtnqskrh4Gb8

Starting at 12 mins 15 seconds, Harloff and crew discuss how Wilding hates DC and writes articles accordingly and how Mark Cassidy is the level headed one. Fun stuff lol
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/11/2025, 7:23 PM
@McMurdo - Does this article mention DC stuff
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/12/2025, 2:28 AM
@dagenspear - it does now
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/11/2025, 5:55 PM
Well regardless of what eneded up making or not I've enjoyed the return of the show.

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