DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Reportedly Made Some Big Changes To The Punisher's Role In Episode 4 - SPOILERS

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Reportedly Made Some Big Changes To The Punisher's Role In Episode 4 - SPOILERS

According to a new report, Marvel Television made some big changes to Jon Berthal's return in Daredevil: Born Again, including shifting which episode he appeared in and a certain supervillain mention...

By JoshWilding - Mar 19, 2025 08:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Yesterday evening's episode of Daredevil: Born Again delivered one of the show's best moments yet when Matt Murdock reunited with Frank Castle. The MCU versions of these characters have formed an uneasy alliance and seemed almost friendly...when punches weren't being thrown, of course.

It's no secret at this point that the series went through some huge changes during its "creative overhaul" and it sounds like The Punisher's role was chief among them. 

According to @MyTimeToShineH, Jon Bernthal's return was originally meant to happen in episode 5 but was brought forward to this instalment. It's unclear how much, if any, of the actor's scenes were pre-overhaul but the scooper says ADR added the word "Bullseye" - the first time Dex has been referred to by the moniker - and new shots of Charlie Cox's Matt Murdock. 

It's hard to fathom a version of Daredevil: Born Again without The Punisher, and even harder to believe that Marvel Studios so badly dropped the ball on the character. Bernthal walking away might just be one of the red flags that prompted a creative overhaul and the departure of original showrunners Matt Corman and Chris Ord. 

As we first reported last night, Bernthal has confirmed reports from last year that he originally didn't see eye-to-eye with Marvel Studios over The Punisher's portrayal in Daredevil: Born Again.

"Ultimately, I didn't see it. I didn't see the version of Frank, and what they wanted from Frank [didn't] really make sense to me and I thought would not appeal to the fans and wouldn't be congruent," the actor told Entertainment Weekly. "It was not something I was really interested in doing. So we had to walk away."

"They really brought me into the conversation," he said of new Daredevil: Born Again showrunner Dario Scardapane. "We really got specific about where Frank is psychologically, where Frank's at physically."

"Sometimes you have to be very, very clear with your intentions in this business," Bernthal continued. "You can't get confused with how much you love something, how much you love playing something, how much you want to do something. You got to make sure you're serving it. You got to make sure you're doing justice to the people that believe in it and doing justice to the iterations that have come before you."

While "Sic Semper Systema" is a must-watch episode, you can check out Matt's emotional exchange with Frank in the player below. 

In Marvel Television's Daredevil: Born Again, Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox), a blind lawyer with heightened abilities is fighting for justice through his bustling law firm, while former mob boss Wilson Fisk (Vincent D'Onofrio) pursues his own political endeavors in New York. When their past identities begin to emerge, both men find themselves on an inevitable collision course.

The series also stars Margarita Levieva, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, Zabryna Guevara, Nikki James, Genneya Walton, Arty Froushan, Clark Johnson, Michael Gandolfini, with Ayelet Zurer and Jon Bernthal. Dario Scardapane is showrunner.

"A masterpiece of epic proportions, Daredevil: Born Again delivers a powerful, unmissable take on the Man Without Fear," we said in our review"Putting street-level heroics on the map in a way that promises to change the MCU forever, the show is sublime superhero storytelling on a whole new level."

Daredevil: Born Again's first four episodes are now streaming on Disney+. 

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 3/19/2025, 8:49 AM
I love Marvel 2 minute no suit cameos of characters being teased for 4 years. Feige Is a genius....a genius of.love
Corruptor
Corruptor - 3/19/2025, 8:54 AM
Bernthal sounds just like one of us, a "toxic" fan...good for him.
SATW42
SATW42 - 3/19/2025, 9:28 AM
@Corruptor - No, Bernthal is nothing like alot of the people on these boards:

https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a35220030/capitol-riots-jon-bernthal-punisher-skull-marvel/

He's also spoken out against toxic masculinity.

There's a difference between wanting to be true to the version of the character he made on netflix, and being a moron on a message board
newhire13
newhire13 - 3/19/2025, 9:34 AM
@Corruptor - Bernthal would be fighting the urge to beat up most of you guys
DTor91
DTor91 - 3/19/2025, 12:48 PM
@SATW42 - 100% this
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/19/2025, 8:55 AM
3 episodes no costume no action wow
CaptainAwkward
CaptainAwkward - 3/19/2025, 9:00 AM
@0bstreperous - Cry me a river. Do you want a happy meal or lullaby to comfort you? Grow up and get over it. 90% of individuals on here are pathetically immature. Nothing but whining and complaining. No gratitude, no appreciation, no intelligence, sigh.
FinnishDude
FinnishDude - 3/19/2025, 9:07 AM
@0bstreperous - So? If the story doesn't need costume or action for 3 episodes, it shouldn't have them.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/19/2025, 9:07 AM
@CaptainAwkward - I must have struck a nerve DD had more action in She Hulk

The show is a dud the overhaul wasn't that comprehensive
MuadDib
MuadDib - 3/19/2025, 9:12 AM
@CaptainAwkward - You seem to go around making the same comments to everyone. Why don’t YOU grow up and accept that everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and that not everyone will share yours.

It’s not unusual for Daredevil fans or Punisher fans to want to see those characters in costume doing things you’d see in the comics. There are plenty of courtroom dramas we can watch if that was what we wanted. I doubt everyone is tuning in to see if someone’s getting probation or jail time vs seeing a blind dude with powers kick ass.

You may not agree, but that doesn’t make everyone who wants that (likely the majority) childish or immature.
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/19/2025, 9:15 AM
@FinnishDude - I'm a show with only 9 episodes none of these have rewatch value it's a dud
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/19/2025, 9:23 AM
@MuadDib - man I had heard he would at least be in costume by the 4th episode
0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/19/2025, 9:43 AM
@FinnishDude - what comic book fan wants a legal procedural the show is imbalanced
DTor91
DTor91 - 3/19/2025, 12:52 PM
@MuadDib - ……courtroom drama IS essential to Daredevil though. It’s a big factor that separates him from most other characters, and the Netflix series didn’t get to share enough of that. Hell, this episode alone was able to show more sides of Matt’s personality that was never really shown before.

The costumes and actions will come, but people that bitch and moan on here clearly never picked up a comic and have gotten so used action overload and binging models.
DTor91
DTor91 - 3/19/2025, 12:55 PM
@0bstreperous - Actually go and read a Daredevil comic.

Actually go and read Born Again. You know, the one this got the name from and widely considered the best Daredevil story of all time. If the show bothers you this much on lack of costumes so far, you’re absolutely not ready to read that then.
Illiad
Illiad - 3/19/2025, 2:04 PM
@0bstreperous - Agreed. Writing lacks the heart of the old show. Stilted performances from new characters. I feel nothing for anybody yet. The speech the Matt's client gave felt empty, just like Foggy's death. It had no authenticity. None. New girlfriend is a bore. Gandolfini is the only new character worth anything so far. Hoping it picks up the pace in the next episode. Been pretty tepid so far.
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 3/19/2025, 9:05 AM
2nd half of this episode felt so good✌️🥹
MuadDib
MuadDib - 3/19/2025, 9:14 AM
@OptimusCrime - sure, bc it had some minimal interaction between Matt and Frank and bc Matt went up on the roof and teased his alter ego and Fisk showed he hasn’t changed.

It’s what fans want. Red meat. It shouldn’t come as a shock.
OptimusCrime
OptimusCrime - 3/19/2025, 9:52 AM
@MuadDib - can you show me where i was shocked?
AC1
AC1 - 3/19/2025, 9:10 AM
Been a bit late starting this show as I'd been trying to rewatch a bunch of other stuff leading up to it (OG Daredevil, Defenders, Punisher, and Echo) but finally started watching Born Again last night and caught up with this episode this morning.

Honestly, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this show so far. There are elements of it that I REALLY like, probably even more than the original series on Netflix... But there's also a lot that just feels a bit off about it, or like it's missing something.

Like, that first fight with Bullseye at the start of Episode 1. It was meant to be a really dramatic, heavy moment, but the weird cinematography and the overuse of CGI kinda took away a huge amount of the impact from it. All the movement and the fighting felt weightless and cartoonish and really took me out of it - compare that to the sequences throughout the Netflix series and how tangible and at times exhausting they felt, the fact you could see each hit actually land there was a weight and a grit to it and the characters slowly got worn out.

And then elsewhere in the series there are times where it just feels a little too clean and polished in terms of the way it's shot, it's missing some of that grungier tone the Netflix show had, although it felt like it was starting to come back in this episode when Matt found Frank.

I'm enjoying the dynamics of the characters though which is kinda the main thing for me. Matt genuinely trying and struggling to give up being Daredevil and focus on working within the legal system for Foggy has been handled well, but I'm glad that it seems he'll be suiting up again very soon. I'm also really liking some of the newer characters like Heather, Kirsten and Cherry. And Fisk being the Mayor and kind of operating on both sides of the system is a really interesting place to take the character and feels like it's going to make his dynamic with Matt even better, alongside seeing him having relationship issues with Vanessa. Wonder if we'll see any Netflix supporting characters like Brett, Melvin, Clare or Turk show up at any point?
MisterBones
MisterBones - 3/19/2025, 9:57 AM
@AC1 - this season is like a new comic run that comes after the previous run had a long stretch.

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