DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Spoilers: Here's How The Series Deals With The Fallout From Marvel Television's ECHO

DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Spoilers: Here's How The Series Deals With The Fallout From Marvel Television's ECHO

In many ways, it feels like most fans have forgotten Echo ever happened (the downside of dropping every episode on the same day, perhaps). However, Daredevil: Born Again by no means ignores the series...

By JoshWilding - Mar 04, 2025 10:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

In 2021, Marvel Studios was finally free to use characters from Netflix's slate of Defenders TV shows and started by bringing Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin into Hawkeye

Still serving as New York City's Kingpin of Crime, his role in the death of Maya Lopez's father was exposed by Clint Barton and Kate Bishop. In retaliation, the young woman shot Wilson Fisk in the head, a nod to what happened in the comic books when she learned of his true nature. 

As he did on the page, Fisk survived his injuries and was last seen in Marvel Television's Echo, a series it's fair to say most fans have already forgotten after it launched on Disney+ early last year. 

In that, Fisk was shown to have utilised technology to speed up his recovery but parted ways with Maya when it became clear she wanted nothing more to do with her former father figure. 

Daredevil: Born Again's first couple of episodes don't shy away from addressing the events of Echo. The Kingpin rocks a scar on his face throughout both episodes and, during a tense exchange with Matt Murdock, reflects on being gunned down by a "vigilante" who he hoped would be his protégé. Maya is never named but her betrayal still stings.

There are other ways Echo impacts the events of Daredevil: Born Again, including Wilson's relationship with his wife Vanessa. It turns out that, while he was hospitalised, she took over his criminal empire and did a pretty stellar job making it more successful than it ever was on her husband's watch.

As for Fisk, when he woke up, he left the hospital without seeing her so he could immediately reconcile with Maya. That hurt Vanessa and had a hugely negative effect on their now-strained marriage. 

Of course, by far the biggest link is the fact Fisk makes good on Echo's post-credits scene tease by deciding to run for New York City Mayor. The series largely glosses over his campaign (his shooting is part of it, while an advisor suggests he cover his scar up) but he scores a decisive victory as the first episode comes to a close. 

Whether Marvel Studios plans to bring Maya into Daredevil: Born Again either this season or during the next one remains to be seen. It would certainly make sense for her to return to New York, though Echo also served as a pretty definitive end to the character's journey if the decision is made to just move on (we're also not sure how well her powers would fit into this show's grounded tone). 

Still, for Echo fans - Daredevil also appeared in that series, remember - the fact Daredevil: Born Again doesn't simply ignore what came before is bound to be appreciated. 

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McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/4/2025, 10:47 PM
Echo was a mistake.
ToldYaSo
ToldYaSo - 3/4/2025, 10:53 PM
True.
Godzilla2000Zer
Godzilla2000Zer - 3/4/2025, 11:01 PM
Loved the Spiderman reference. Overall really good start
fanboy03191
fanboy03191 - 3/4/2025, 11:07 PM
@Godzilla2000Zer - Same! I’m really hoping Marvel shelled out the money to Sony and gives him a Luke Skywalker moment at the end of the season 😂.
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 3/4/2025, 11:21 PM
@Godzilla2000Zer - Glad they called him a man instead of a boy
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 3/5/2025, 2:13 PM
@fanboy03191 - If they actually shell out money it's gotta be more than just that, they gotta get their money's worth.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 3/4/2025, 11:01 PM
Echo is not canon .
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 3/5/2025, 12:06 AM
@Malatrova15 - 💯
RolandD
RolandD - 3/5/2025, 9:50 AM
@Malatrova15 - Uh, it was done by the MCU so it absolutely is.
Wahhvacado
Wahhvacado - 3/4/2025, 11:23 PM
@Feralwookiee - I actually saw a video on series like this
https://youtube.com/shorts/ZTlyRUXbPm0?si=isS-Qtp5eS0Ifhr1
elcapitan
elcapitan - 3/4/2025, 11:46 PM
“Grounded tone”? Hector’s mystical amulet sure is grounded.
JustAWaffle
JustAWaffle - 3/5/2025, 6:02 AM
@elcapitan - grounded =/= naturalistic
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/5/2025, 12:25 AM
If she made Kingpins empire more successful than kingpin himself so why do we even need Kingpin
HeavyMetal4Life
HeavyMetal4Life - 3/5/2025, 12:35 AM
"a series it's fair to say most fans have already forgotten after it launched on Disney+ early last year"

Always the negativity in these articles. Most shows that come out the previous year are forgotten, whether they are Marvel or Star Wars or DC, whatever. So, the statement above is kind of a dumb one to make. Hell, most shows from just a few months ago get quickly forgotten.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/5/2025, 10:34 AM
@HeavyMetal4Life - I'd also add that I don't see why her powers need be an issue if she returned, and even if they are considered to OP (which I don't think they were) they would simply need to go with the concept that away from her ancestral home they are far more muted (for now at least).

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