LOKI: 5 Huge Questions We Have About The MCU's Multiverse After Watching The Series Premiere

LOKI: 5 Huge Questions We Have About The MCU's Multiverse After Watching The Series Premiere

The first episode of Loki shed a little more light on the Marvel Cinematic Universe's version of the Multiverse, but we have some big questions we're definitely hoping are answered in the weeks ahead...

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By JoshWilding - Jun 11, 2021 10:06 AM EST
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In the first episode of Loki, Marvel Studios started slowly pulling back the curtain on the Marvel Cinematic Universe's version of the Multiverse. Unfortunately, that's left us with more questions than answers, especially as this shared world appears to be playing fast and loose with the rules of time travel.

It's inevitable that answers are coming in the weeks ahead, but for the time being, we're taking a closer look at what the premiere, "Glorious Purpose," taught us about the Multiverse.

With that comes some big queries about where Kevin Feige and company plan to take this concept, especially with movies like Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness and Spider-Man: No Way Home on the horizon (both of which are expected to explore the idea of multiple timelines).

So, to take a look through this feature, all you guys need to do is click on that "Next" button below!
 

5. Did The Marvel Television Shows Take Place In A Branched Reality?

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Well, this would certainly be one way to explain their place in the MCU. 

Like it or not, we've really not seen anything to suggest that the likes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Daredevil are considered canon by Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios. In fact, if you look at the Darkhold, for example, the opposite is the case. Even in Loki, there was no mention of Agent Coulson's resurrection (which would have been a great way for Mobius to taunt the God of Mischief). 

Using a throwaway Easter Egg to explain that those shows took place in branching timelines or even another part of the Multiverse would mean they did happen - which keeps fans happy - but not in a way that stops Feige from doing what he wants with the likes of Luke Cage, Ghost Rider, and the Inhumans.

So, Daredevil may have battled Wilson Fisk in one reset timeline, but in the actual MCU...he'll be Peter Parker's lawyer in Spider-Man: No Way Home.
 

4. What Really Happened During The "Multiversal War"?

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Miss Minutes explains that there was once a Multiversal War that saw different timelines clash in an effort to become the dominant one. Had they not been controlled, the entire Multiverse would have been destroyed, and that was where the Time-Keepers came in.

As Loki points out, are we really meant to believe that these reptilian aliens somehow had the power to step in and create a "Sacred Timeline" they now dictate after dreaming up the Time Variance Authority? It feels like there's something we're not being told here, and it's likely the TVA are the unwilling puppets of a far more powerful force. 

It's possible, for example, that Kang the Conqueror could be calling the shots, while we wouldn't put it past another Loki (Richard E. Grant's perhaps?) to be posing as the Time-Keepers, creating some sort of loop that ensures he lives forever. 

Either way, this "Multiversal War" needs to be addressed, especially after that blatant Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness tease! 
 

3. Is There Really Only One Timeline?

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So, if the TVA is to be believed, there's one sacred timeline, and as soon as someone steps off their path, it creates a new one that they need to then step in and prune. If they don't, a new timeline will be created, and that runs the risks of there being another Multiversal War. 

If they're telling the truth, though, does that mean there are no alternate realities with different versions of familiar faces? If that's the case, something is clearly going to happen in Loki that lays the groundwork for What If?, Spider-Man: No Way Home, and the upcoming Doctor Strange sequel.

It's possible that while there is one sacred timeline that has to be kept on a set path, others do exist; they just exist completely separately and won't interfere with what's happening in the "main" one.

Different timelines may only pose a problem when they branch off the one the Time-Keepers control, but this is getting confusing, so here's hoping Marvel Studios has an explanation. 
 

2. Why Was It Okay For The Avengers To Use Time-Travel?

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Judge Renslayer makes it clear that The Avengers haven't been brought in front of the TVA because what they did by travelling back in time was actually supposed to happen. 

That explains a lot, and the TVA stepping in to prune the timeline Loki escaped in means that the God of Mischief never escaped, Captain America didn't learn Bucky was still alive too soon, and so on and so forth. Taking that into account, it makes sense why it was okay for Steve Rogers to get his happy ending with Peggy Carter.

If Sam Wilson was always destined to become Captain America, then Steve needed to travel back in time, return to the present day as an old man, and then...well, we still don't know what happened to him even after The Falcon and The Winter Soldier.

Is it possible he was also brought up in front of the TVA? If so, that group could have de-aged him and tasked Steve with being an agent for them. That would be one way to bring Chris Evans back, anyway! 
 

1. How Does All This Tie Into The Doctor Strange Sequel?

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As we mentioned, there's a tease in the Loki premiere about "madness" ensuing if different timelines in the Multiverse were to erupt into war, and we can't help but think that this was meant to tease this sequel. 

If the Scarlet Witch decides to tear through the Multiverse in a bid to find Tommy and Billy, she could create a myriad of alternate realities that not even the TVA can control (especially if they've been destroyed by the God of Mischief). 

That could leave Strange caught in the midst of a war he needs to stop, something we're guessing Wanda Maximoff won't be too bothered by if she just wants her twins back. If Shuma-Gorath is indeed the lead villain, then his presence will likely complicate things, and this is a hard one to predict right now. 

However, if the idea of multiple realities is cemented in Loki, it would certainly help better explain what we know about this movie and Spider-Man: No Way Home
 

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Repian
Repian - 6/11/2021, 10:33 AM
I think there is only one timeline and it is the same in all universes. Ex: If it is June 11, 2021 in a universe, in all universes it will be June 11, 2021. The time is the same and the universe will be different.

bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/11/2021, 11:38 AM
@Repian - that's an interesting theory indeed, but I can already think of a few things that would complicate that. Although I think Marvel doesn't care too much about that (even though they brought in physicists for Endgame's time travel)
JonC
JonC - 6/11/2021, 11:52 AM
@Waddles - except when the avengers went back into the past multiple times?
HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 6/11/2021, 12:27 PM
@Waddles -

this exactly.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/11/2021, 1:08 PM
@Waddles - But the Avengers DID change the past. Just by showing uo in the past, they changed it, because now, for instance, there was a period of time where 2 Captain Americas were present. Just that alone changes the past. Not to mention our Cap fought past Cap, which would have given past Cap new experiences from the battle of NY.

And no one can convince me that he wouldn't have told Tony and everyone else that he saw himself and got beaten up by.....himself lol. And that could change all kinds of things too. Maybe Tony wonders hoe that could have been, decides it could only be time travel, then goes and creates a time machine a decade early.

Even the smallest things, like even appearing in the past, changes the past from what it was.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/11/2021, 2:39 PM
@Waddles - Exactly!
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/12/2021, 11:26 AM
@CorndogBurglar - you’re exactly right. But this episode is saying that the Avengers goi my back in time and changing their past was SUPPOSED to happen and thus was actually a part of their timeline. Which I’m not sure makes sense considering in Whedons Avengers we never see Cap fight Cap unless the implication is that it happened off screen?
HannibalLecter
HannibalLecter - 6/11/2021, 10:39 AM
That Multiversal War sounds like what happens in every Marvel mobile game and MMO lol
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/12/2021, 11:27 AM
@HannibalLecter - think of the amount of skins they will sell.
IronGenesis
IronGenesis - 6/11/2021, 10:44 AM
Maybe they will explain how Ed Norton Bruce Banner was abducted and replaced with a Marc Ruffalo Bruce Banner who had all of Norton’s banners memories,

😳
GhostDog
GhostDog - 6/11/2021, 10:58 AM
They will never explain if the Netflix shows are in some branch timeline. Never.
Repian
Repian - 6/11/2021, 10:58 AM
think this is the beginning of the new Secret Wars. Also, I think that during phase 4 and 5, Beyonder will defeat the most powerful creatures in the Multiverse.

And Joaquin Phoenix would be perfect to play Beyonder, but I don't know if Feige can convince him.
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 6/11/2021, 11:04 AM
@Repian - I would love that!
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/11/2021, 11:41 AM
@Repian - I would be really dissappointed if we don't eventually get The Beyonder. It's like the only largely recognizable villain Marvel probably planned to use before the Fox merger too
ElvenKingSlayer
ElvenKingSlayer - 6/11/2021, 11:02 AM
Hopefully the Space Lizards won't be revealed as made up to keep everything in order. I really hope we are getting more godlike characters in the MCU. I don't mean asgardians but I mean those larger than life characters like: Surtur, Dormammu, Celestials(hope they retcon Ego as something else after Eternals), Watchers. Hopefully the future will give us Eternity, Galactus, Living Tribunal, One Above All etc.
And Mephisto of course.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 6/11/2021, 11:09 AM
Jesus, there cant be a "MCU vrrsion of the multiverse", the multiverse already contains the MCU and everything else.
bkmeijer2
bkmeijer2 - 6/11/2021, 11:25 AM
''which would have been a great way for Mobius to taunt the God of Mischief''

Although I was hoping for a ''but you didn't actually kill him'', I think that wasn't the point of mentioning Coulson's death and subsequent avenging by the Avengers.

Also, I really think (hope actually) the Space Lizards, the Multiversal War and the ''sacred timeline'' are indeed all a scam and Loki is right it's all a desperate attempt at give the impression the TVA is in control. Loki should know, he wears a similar mask.
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