Fans Have Spotted What Could Be A Key Connection Between THE FANTASTIC FOUR And LOKI's TVA - Possible SPOILERS

Fans Have Spotted What Could Be A Key Connection Between THE FANTASTIC FOUR And LOKI's TVA - Possible SPOILERS

The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Loki feel a million miles apart in many ways, but fans have spotted what could be an intriguing connection between the two Multiverse Saga projects. Check it out...

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By JoshWilding - Jun 06, 2025 05:06 PM EST
Filed Under: Fantastic Four

We first visited the Time Variance Authority in Loki, with it ultimately outed as a front for He Who Remains. The Kang Variant founded and used the organisation to prune timelines and keep the Sacred Timeline in check, allowing him to rule over it from the Citadel at the End of Time. 

Now, He Who Remains is gone, and Loki is powering the Multiverse alone. In Deadpool & Wolverine, it was revealed that the TVA is still attempting to keep on top of things, though some agents—like Mr. Paradox—have gone rogue without the "Time-Keepers" calling the shots. 

In the comics, Nathaniel Richards (Kang) is believed to be a descendant of Reed Richards, at least 1000 years removed. That connection is unlikely to be the focus of Avengers: Doomsday now that it's no longer Avengers: The Kang Dynasty, but it may have been the plan at least once upon a time. 

An eagle-eyed fan on Reddit has noticed that there's technology in The Fantastic Four: First Steps' Baxter Building that's very similar, if not identical, to what the TVA uses. 

We've long wondered why the TVA was fitted out with such retro-looking tech, but if it's all based on Mister Fantastic's designs or even stolen from him, then it would make sense why there's such a visual crossover. It was theorised that Kang deliberately kept the X-Men and Fantastic Four off the Sacred Timeline, and using a Reed Variant's technology would've added salt to the wound.

However, Kasra Farahani was the production designer on The Fantastic Four: First Steps and Loki, so it might be that fans are looking a little too much into this (and he was simply reusing props from the series that proved a good fit for this retro-futuristic reality). 

We'd be lying to say we're not somewhat intrigued by the possibility, though, and we may well end up learning that the TVA is indeed somehow connected to the Future Foundation over the next couple of years.

Check out the comparison in the Reddit post below and let us know your thoughts in the comments section.

Why is nobody bringing up that the Fantastic Four have the same technology as the TVA?
byu/RedditorGoldVirgin inmarvelstudios

Set against the vibrant backdrop of a 1960s-inspired, retro-futuristic world, Marvel Studios' The Fantastic Four: First Steps introduces Marvel’s First Family—Reed Richards/Mister Fantastic (Pedro Pascal), Sue Storm/Invisible Woman (Vanessa Kirby), Johnny Storm/Human Torch (Joseph Quinn) and Ben Grimm/The Thing (Ebon Moss-Bachrach) as they face their most daunting challenge yet.

Forced to balance their roles as heroes with the strength of their family bond, they must defend Earth from a ravenous space god called Galactus (Ralph Ineson) and his enigmatic Herald, Silver Surfer (Julia Garner). And if Galactus’ plan to devour the entire planet and everyone on it weren’t bad enough, it suddenly gets very personal.

Paul Walter Hauser, John Malkovich, and Natasha Lyonne have been cast in mystery roles. Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom is rumoured to appear, though that's surely a given with Avengers: Doomsday on the way.

Director Matt Shakman worked with both Avatar: The Way of Water co-writer Josh Friedman and WandaVision's Cam Squires on The Fantastic Four: First Steps' screenplay, with Eric Pearson (Black Widow) later coming on board for a final polish.

The movie is set to be released in theaters on July 25, 2025.

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HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 6/6/2025, 5:41 PM
Do they keep infinity stones as paperweights in that drawer aswell?
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Vigor
Vigor - 6/6/2025, 5:52 PM
@HashTagSwagg - maybe. But then Thanos would find them and fukk shit up

So I doubt it
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 6/6/2025, 7:47 PM
@HashTagSwagg - that was such a stupid gag. Why undercut the stakes in their own franchise?
web3d
web3d - 6/6/2025, 9:19 PM
@Ryguy88 - Because the TVA isn't in one particular universe, and Infinity stones only are powerful in their own universe.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 6/6/2025, 10:39 PM
@Ryguy88 - Hack writers. Thats why.
Vigor
Vigor - 6/6/2025, 5:54 PM
Nice catch. Could be deliberate. Could be just a reused prop. But it would be really cool if it connects

I was really looking forward to learning kangs back story some more. And how the ten rings connected as well
Kurban
Kurban - 6/6/2025, 5:57 PM
Fake fan. Kang is a descendant of Reed’s father, not Reed himself. FAKE FAN FAKE FAN
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 6/6/2025, 7:24 PM
@Kurban - fake tan more like
TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 6/6/2025, 5:59 PM
"We'd be lying to say we're not somewhat intrigued by the possibility, though, and we may well end up learning that the TVA is indeed somehow connected to the Future Foundation over the next couple of years."

Well in that case I really commend you all for not lying about being somewhat intrigued by the possibility.
Irregular
Irregular - 6/6/2025, 5:59 PM
THEORY TIME just based off the images they showed lol.

Reed DID create the TVA. But he didn't create it alone...he created it with VICTOR. Explain?

Both are best friends and what not, but are able to accomplish so much together. Including time-travel, the multiverse, all that shit. Victor decides, I need to take advantage of this in some way. Maybe to resurrect his mother or loved one, whatever the MCU decides. But Reed, opposes this. This, gets way out of hand. Victor, going out of his own way attempts to, but in the end gets scarred because of Reed trying to stop him from doing so.

In the end, Victor KILLS Reed Richards. Now how did the TVA not see this? Cause there was no army, there was no soldiers. Just a "base" outside of time and space. What about Kang? Well, what if He Who Remains...is an apprentice to Reed Richards. When he notices he died, and Victor is gone...well, time to do WHATEVER. Literally all of Reeds fears of tampering with the multiverse, happened. Thus giving birth to the Council of Kangs or what not. He Who Remains has done it for so long, he can no longer remember who Reed or Victor is. He's exceeded past them in so many ways as this persona that they don't matter.

As for why the TVA could never find Victor, it's because Victor was able to evade them. He's already made the armor that could slip pass them. And even then, by then, He Who Remains didn't care for revenge because he had the power to do whatever he wanted. It didn't matter.

BUT NOW because of the events Loki S1 & S2....Reed is now ALIVE.


That's my theory lol.
Ryguy88
Ryguy88 - 6/6/2025, 7:50 PM
@Irregular - so Jonathan Majors is coming back?
Latverian
Latverian - 6/6/2025, 6:00 PM
Hardly the first connection between the F4 and the TVA.

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OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 6/6/2025, 6:26 PM
I haven't read the article, but just a wild guess, is it the low viewership ?
Polaris
Polaris - 6/6/2025, 6:30 PM
It'd be cool if there was a canon connection
PatientXero
PatientXero - 6/6/2025, 6:37 PM
Maybe….? Or it’s just a retro looking device.
DocSpock
DocSpock - 6/6/2025, 6:38 PM

I went to school with a pretty girl named Sue in the 60s.

I expect Josh to give me credit and royalties on all the articles he writes pointing out the possible connection to the FF, Kang, Loki, The TVA, Doctor Doom, and the multiverse.

ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 6/6/2025, 6:54 PM
It's a Richards family trademark.
dragon316
dragon316 - 6/6/2025, 6:58 PM
Most fans have to much time make this crap up
McMurdo
McMurdo - 6/6/2025, 8:09 PM
I just don't care
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 6/6/2025, 10:40 PM
@McMurdo - No one cares. They put the tickets up for sale 2 months in advance. They aren't even done with FN reshoots.

This is DOA.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/6/2025, 8:48 PM
It would be cool if there is a canonical reason but I doubt it…

Given that they decided to give the TVA a retro-ish vibe , that same type of aesthetic fits the setting of this too hence likely them having similar looking tech etc.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 6/6/2025, 9:05 PM
Hurr durr maybe because both of the tech has a 60's retro aesthetic perhaps?!
RitoRevolto
RitoRevolto - 6/6/2025, 11:54 PM
@bobevanz - This. That's the only reason they'd look similar, but they're not even "identical" as the article tries to claim...
NoobNoob
NoobNoob - 6/6/2025, 10:05 PM
thats just a 60's style monitor
PartyKiller
PartyKiller - 6/6/2025, 11:13 PM
Reuse of props to save money.
MarvelZombie616
MarvelZombie616 - 6/7/2025, 2:18 AM
F4 will bomb.
Day 1 tickets sale record only means that it will be front loaded.

Personally i won't watch it during it's opening week.
If it get's good wom here, i may watch it in week 2, if not i'll skip it.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/7/2025, 3:27 AM
It's both retro 60s, so wouldn't be surprised if it's just a coincidence. If it's something though, it's not that the FF has the same tech as the TVA, but the other way around.

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