LOKI's Mind-Bending Season 2 Finale Finally Reveals The God Of Mischief's Glorious Purpose - SPOILERS

And the time travel rules on this show are at the same level that we could see in the CW's The Flash show.

I remember in the first season when Barry traveled back to the past there was another Barry there, which made sense, but then in one episode they changed this and Barry went back to the past and there wasn't another Barry because then there would be two of them and the writers would have to think about how to get rid of one of them, and this Loki show has done exactly the same, when Loki traveled to the past there was always another version of himself (would that be a variant or not because it's the same timeline in a place that is supposed to be out of any timelines?), but now that he needs to time travel like a billion times and having so many Lokis would be confusing as f*ck, the rules change and he just goes back to his own body in the past and there are no other Lokis there, lmao.

And how can they travel through time on the TVA and change things in the past if it's a place out of time? And why are those changes not fully reflected in the future? No butterfly effect when things are somehow changed by Loki even if they are just little changes? What happens with the past Lokis when he leaves their bodies again? I guess they just forget everything?

Idk, everything is too unnecessarily confusing or maybe there are things I didn't understand or forgot, maybe some day I'll rewatch and it'll make more sense, but I hate when a time travel story just changes the rules with no logical explanation just because it's convenient for the writers.

@Vigor - got the same of argument and to the point @SethBullock was making, how does one move backward or forward in time when they are outside of time itself?

@Vigor - But the TVA can't really be out of time when we see time passing in the TVA and how Loki can travel back and forth in time inside of it.

It can be outside of the other timelines and have a timeline for itself from where other timelines can be watched, but time there should have the same rules.

And if new timelines can't be created inside the TVA because somehow Kang designed it that way, precisely to avoid the creation of new branches on it that could also mean more variants of himself, then that would mean that absolutely nothing could be changed inside of it, which is what we saw in past episodes, where Loki seemed to be stuck in a timeloop and could meet his past self doing things he had done before, that means inside the TVA there is only one possible unbranchable timeline that can't be changed, but in this last episode we see Loki constantly changing things and trying to change them for good, trying to create changes that save the TVA and the temporal loom and the multiverse forever, and he does exactly that in the end, he changes the TVA timeline somehow and creates a branch were the TVA and all the timelines are safe, and if this change in the TVA timeline remains, why all the others he did before seem to have never happened, those other changes should have remained too.

They don't remain because it's just convenient for the writers, like the time travel rules where Loki learns to travel to his own body in the past when the writer doesn't want to deal with different Lokis everytime he goes to the past on this episode.

Time travel rules and the way time works in stories like these should be consistent or to be very well explained if there are certain changes in how time and time travel works inside these fictional universes, and I get that the writers for this show only have like half an hour or an hour per episode to tell a story and they prefer not to focus too much in explaining time travel stuff, but a good writer telling a good time travel story should do it somehow, and like I said in my first message I doubt that even the writers could properly explain everything we saw on this episode or on this season.

Not sure how they are going to continue this Kang multiverse story, but lots of stuff I'm seeing I have the feeling that has too much of "a wizard did it" stuff.

@philinterrupted Exactly, time exists in the TVA, it's impossible that it doesn't exist or nothing would ever happen there and nobody could move backward and forward in time inside of it.

Maybe Kang, He Who Remains, is so powerful that somehow changes how time works inside the TVA, maybe he did something that avoided the creation of new branches/timelines inside of it, but time definitely exists on it, and we see Loki changing it, which should create new branches/timelines, and if those new branches/timelines are deleted or time is reset somehow after Loki leaves his body to travel through time again, why that doesn't happen with the last change where he saves everybody, was this just planned/allowed by He Who Remains? Loki just became more powerful than HWR and that caused that he could keep this final change with a new timeline and the previous one where the temporal loom was destroyed and everybody died just disappeared?

That would mean the "original" multiverse was deleted with everyone on it "dying" or ceasing to exist, and now we are in a new timeline for the Marvel multiverse were Loki somehow controls everything to keep the timelines/branches/universes safe.

Not sure if any of this was properly explained in the show or will be explained later in the Avengers movies, but like I said before, right now I doubt anyone in Marvel Studios really knows or understands wtf is going on, lol.

@SethBullock - brudda, if you want a well-thought out series that takes its time establishing and respecting its time-travel rules that is easily digestible for a wide audience,

as well as being a successful commentary on free will and nihilism, I highly recommend Netflix’s Dark.

Great series I will have to revisit to wash the pretentious taste of Loki out of my mouth

@JFerguson - Its only pretentious if you don't think about the rules. There are two things that make this time travel possible.

1) If Loki goes back physically, he can't change the past nor future, as they are already set in stone, he can only live a loop as shown in earlier episodes. Which goes with how Hulk explained the rules, if you go back and change the past, the future that led you to go back, never happens and that creates a paradox so who is going to change the past that was previously changed by you. For example, Barry goes back to the past and saves his mother, but he became Flash cause his mother died since his mother is alive now, he doesn't become Flash so who is going to save the mother in the new timeline created by Barry going back? So any time travel, can't change the past or future but can create a loop that works out in a way where the past and future are locked around it.

2) To counter that paradox problem and be able to change time, Loki figured, he can project his conciousness back to his older self and live out that life which is kinda how days of future past did it except for the fact that Wolverine went back to the future which kinda defeats creates a paradox where he changed the past so the future isn't dark and gloomy in future, he never ends up traveling to the past. So, I would say, Marvels time travel rules are pretty spot on and non contradicting. Clearly, they have thought this through but they don't wanna get into the theoretical too much and mess it up somehow. Like how, Endgame was a spot on about time travel but the writers, directors, etc ruined a perfectly thought out rules that they came up as a whole and were disagreeing with each other after the movie had come out. I think the writers were correct BTW, I bet Feige agrees too. Also, they probably know, fans will spend days talking about it so they would rather put it all out there and let people figure it out on their own than spend too much time on explaining and risk [frick]ing up a perfectly well thought out set of rules cause of too much explaining.

Loki is God of Stories cause he is never absolute about anything, a little maybe, perhaps and what ifs could go a long way. Easier to change the story when you know leave out a few blanks. It's pretty meta in a way.

@MyCoolYoung - time is a path we’re on and we move through it. If the TVA is outside of time then it’s not a space one can move backwards or forwards in.