Is It A Good Idea for the X-Men and The Fantastic Four to Crossover?

Is It A Good Idea for the X-Men and The Fantastic Four to Crossover?

Hey guys. I have been thinking about this ever since this topic has come up. I mean you would think automatically that at one point they would want to connect the X-Men and The Fantastic Four with a crossover film, but is it a good idea or is it a horrible idea?

Editorial Opinion
By JGeorgeVH - Apr 27, 2014 08:04 PM EST
Filed Under: X-Men

Hey guys.  I have been thinking about this ever since this topic has come up.  I mean you would think automatically that at one point they would want to connect these universes with a crossover film, but is it a good idea or is it a horrible idea?  I actually had a hard time deciding which side because each has its own positives and negatives.  So I decided to write down my own positives and negatives of this issue and then allow you guys to decide if it is a really good idea for this two mega franchises to soon crossover.

Pros: Always start with the pros

A Fox Marvel Cinematic Universe

This one seems obvious, but something that I could at least mention.  I know that the X-Men is its own universe alone, but the only other films are the Wolverine films and we still have to wait 3 years for the third wolverine film to come out.  Plans are in the works for a what could be a Deadpool, X-Force, Gambit, or Mystique film, but none of these have been confirmed.  It would be great to actually see some other characters connect these two and get some diversity to an X-Men universe that seems really Wolverine centric.  Don't get me wrong, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine is spectacular, but I think that First Class was amazing with out having to have Wolverine be the leader.  I just think that it would be mutually successful for both franchise to be in the same cinematic universe.

Fantastic Four is More Rounded

Fantastic Four while in my opinion is shaping up very well is seeming very questionable in many peoples eyes, but in a case where you introduce them in a world where they are connected to X-Men, it makes it easier for them to be successful.  You could still have them have them go into space and get their powers, but spin it in a way saying that it is a sped up Mutation in their genes.  I mean say that they are a mutants from space and you have a connection to the X-Men right there.  I did say that having Wolverine dilutes the X-Men, but having a side character like one of the smaller X-Men show up in the movie would be really cool and actually do a cool idea.

Cons: They will always be here

Muddled Continuity

This needs to be said.  We have a universe that has been going on for a long time and Days of Future Past is probably going to be much farther in the future than where Fantastic Four is going to start and we still have no idea where Apocalypse is going to be set on the timeline.  X-Men already has its own muddled continuity and lets say that The Fantastic Four was set in the same universe there would have to be an explanation like of they died or have the grave sight scene from the comic book kind of like a cameo for those characters, but I don't think that scene will be included in Days of Future Past.  It would just create some muddled continuity with the characters that I wouldn't want to see at all.

Money

While I believe that if these two films crossover it will be successful, but as successful as X-Men: Days of Future Past or Fantastic Four is.  I don't believe that either set of characters put in the same film will make more money at all.  That is really the only reason to cross them over is to make more money than the first.  I do believe that Captain America: The Winter Soldier won' hit the same amount of box office as The Avengers, while Thor: The Dark World and Iron Man 3 both couldn't do it.  I just don't think it would work the same way because anyone seeing a Fantastic Four film is seeing X-Men: Days of Future Past and I don't think that Fantastic Four is going to make a monumental box office.  I just don't know if the monetary gains would be similiar to the Avengers.

After thinking about this for a while now, I don't want a crossover.  I believe that the cons out way the pros and I would rather have them stay separate.  Now I want to hear from you.  What do you guys think about the crossover?  Should it happen?  Shouldn't it happen?  What are your pros and/or cons for this controversial topic?  Do you want them to crossover?  Please comment below.  Thanks and remember that I love nerd movies and I am an addict.

 

 

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BubSnikt
BubSnikt - 4/27/2014, 9:16 PM
You don't need similar box office #s like the Avengers to be considered successful. An FF movie done right could be really good. And the continuity will always be there unfortunately
PAF
PAF - 4/27/2014, 9:22 PM
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 4/27/2014, 10:30 PM
Do something with Kang and Apocolypse. Have them meet Franklin Richards and Rachel Summers. Introduce Hyperion through them, which helps explain Kang.

You could do a Stryker type deal where Dr Doom threatens all mutant kind, and Magneto gets all pissy about it.

I don't see why people are so averse to this idea, while it might be reactionary to the Avenger's success, FF and X-Men have some of Marvel's most interesting villains, and it would be a shame not see them on screen together. You could even say that Doom was integral part of the Weapon-X program or some shit.

I mean don't we all want to see Human Torch and Ice Man team up?
gamecreatorjj
gamecreatorjj - 4/27/2014, 10:32 PM
I mean, if they want to do a Cyclops movie about him and Corsair, then Nathanial Richards/Kang, Hyperion, and many other cosmic FF characters.
TucksFrom2015
TucksFrom2015 - 4/27/2014, 10:47 PM
@PAF LAUGH OUT LOUD!!! yep, that is Trank's vision alright. nailed it.
RextheKing
RextheKing - 4/27/2014, 11:16 PM
I'm a little iffy about crossing them over, but overall I'd be down for one... I'd really love to see Magneto and Dr Doom in the same film.
MightyZeus
MightyZeus - 4/28/2014, 1:48 AM
I'm not exactly optimistic or hyped that the Fantastic Four and the X-men could possibly be crossing over. I'd prefer the Fantastic Four to be placed with in the MCU since they fit with in that universe more.
BaronZemo
BaronZemo - 4/28/2014, 2:35 AM
[frick] Fox' fantastic four!
kong
kong - 4/28/2014, 3:41 AM
I have nothing against the Fox F4 and actually liek what I've heard from it, but I think the concept of F4 fits better with the characters of the MCU. Some big story lines can't happen as accurate with the F4 gone from them. Civil War, Planet/World War Hulk are examples of this. I don't think F4 and X-Men fit together for crossover and I don't know who they'd be fighting.
RobGrizzly
RobGrizzly - 4/28/2014, 3:58 AM
I might be alone on this, but I don't find pre-planned crossovers that exciting. It's better for me, when it comes out of nowhere as a complete, unthinkable surprise.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/28/2014, 5:37 AM
NO because I'm avoiding the rebooted FF movie like the plague so personally no way in hell wanna see them crossover in an X-Men movie :p

Look I gave up with Fox's X-men franchise, no way for a very loooong time we ever going to see nothing but a Fox version of our X-Universe, which is okay with me. But there's still hope FF can go home, where it belongs...we NEED Galactus, Silver Surfer, Dr Doom etc back at Marvel Studios, it will do nothing but make the MCU that much richer and exciting. What we're gonna get from Fox is watered down horrible versions of our favorite family Superheroes. That and they don't really need them, so many X-Characters/titles that deserve the big screen or even TV treatment (Deadpool, X-Force, Excalibur, Cable, New Mutants etc, etc) that FF is just not important there and is very important in the MCU for future cbm's!

Just wish they'd let the FF franchise go, like Daredevil, the X-MEN Universe is so vast, FF would just get lost and out of place in it anyways. Just think Reed at the Avengers in a cameo helping out with something to save the World with Bruce Banner and or even Hank Pym or Dr Doom taking on Iron Man or the FF crossing over with the Guardians of the Galaxy. Feels so more at home in the MCU it ain't funny!

So um no, please no...
CherryBomb
CherryBomb - 4/28/2014, 7:10 AM
Wait, are they still crossing over?
I'm sure I read a few weeks back that they're not?

Either way. No.
The mutants "struggle" is much better when they're a rare breed, adding four people who get their powers from space just damages their special-factor and lessens the politics that x men explored.

If they were to crossover, have them mutually meet in the negative zone or something,
JoJo1982
JoJo1982 - 4/28/2014, 9:33 AM
Lol@gliderman
Trickwil
Trickwil - 4/28/2014, 11:51 AM
The X-Men should exist in a separate universe from the rest of marvel. There are too many mutants. its the whole reason they did House of M in the comics there is just too many mutants and it makes for a world where everyone has super powers. In the X-men universe they can make it make way more sense but they need to stop making X-men movies and especially stop making bad movies. They should be doing stand alone mutant movies that exist within the X-men continuum. Then you can go back and make X-men films that combine all of the characters. Do a Quicksilver movie, do a Banshee Movie, do an Alpha Flight, Weapon-X, Summers Family films and then combine them. But they already [frick]ed it up.
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/29/2014, 2:18 AM
dethpillow @ You hit the nail on the head buddy!

Damn, you got a whole new article as a comment, if I was you I'd make it in a whole new article!


^5


P.S. KANG is Marvel Studios - damn wish there was an official site at MARVEL or something telling us all who has the exact rights to whom, can't be that hard right?
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 4/29/2014, 2:20 AM
Thumbs up btw @ JGeorgeVH, great subject and read!
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