Ror Revisits: 300

Ror Revisits: 300

Criticized and praised in equal measure here on CBM. How does Zack Snyder's first violent foray into comic book adaptations hold up? Click for my take..

Review Opinion
By MarkCassidy - May 19, 2011 08:05 AM EST
Filed Under: 300
Source: Ror Reviews

Has there ever been such a gleefully testosterone fueled action fest as 300 before? Certainly not in the CBM sub-genre. To say the movie is all style over substance is an understatement, ah but what style!

Based on the graphic Novel by Frank Miller, Zack Snyder adapts the fictionalized story of the Battle of Thermopylae, in which 300 Spartan warriors took a final stand against a massively superior force of invading Persians. Our "hero" is the Spartan king Leonidas(Gerard Butler), and he gathers his men(Michael Fassbender and David Wenham among them) against the wishes of his Spartan politicians, to go slice the bejaysus out of the million or so Persians led by the "God King" Xerxes(Rodrigo Santoro). He leaves behind his wife Giorgo(Lena Headey), and she attempts to rally support among the council.



There isn't a lot more to it. In fairness to Miller/Snyder, even though we are obviously supposed to root for the Spartans, they are not shown in too sympathetic a light. In fact they are shown to be a bit of a pack of cruel bastards! So right off the bat the usual staple of ultimate good vs ultimate evil is done away with. It's basically just a case of rooting for the underdogs. Aside from Leonidas(and even he is not developed nearly enough), we don't really get to know any of the others or care about whatever grizzly fate awaits them. But as a single fighting force, the Spartans are definitely the closest thing to an emotional core the movie has. You might think it would be Queen Gorgo and Leonidas, and towards the end I guess that's the case but again, nowhere near enough attention is payed to their relationship. Now, ask yourself this question. In a film about men slicing the shit out of each other for an hour and half does any of that stuff matter? Well, imo it all depends. If the performances are solid, the script not too eye rolling and the visuals/action of a high enough standard then I'll go along for the ride. And in this case, it mattered to me not a bit!

This movie may not be any deeper than a puddle but it doesn't take anything away from the sheer spectacle of it. Snyder directs with his usual vigor, throwing ferocious slow mo action scenes at us left right and center. Visually he employs blue screen backgrounds for practically every shot of the movie(only one scene was filmed in a real environment) but it works very well. The performances are as good as they need to be. Butler certainly stands out(but he was alway going to). His growls of "This Is Sparta" and "Tonight We Dine In Hell" have been parodied endlessly since, but the truth is that they stay just the right side of cheesy to be very effective in the movie. And while nobody else is bad, they don't exactly set the screen on fire either. But as I said, it really doesn't matter. Frank Miller wrote a story about buff men decapitating each other and Zack Snyder filmed it, and filmed it well. If that doesn't float your boat that's fine, but criticizing 300 for not being something that it never set out to be in the first place is pointless. I'm not even going to get into the historical inaccuracy or the accusations or racism. Zack Snyder went on to make the vastly superior Watchmen, and the vastly inferior Sucker Punch. What awaits us when he unleashes his take on The Man Of Steel? Hopefully a film that is sufficiently different to all of them. One thing is for sure, it will be great to look at!



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GForce7
GForce7 - 5/19/2011, 8:52 AM
1st
Brashlight
Brashlight - 5/19/2011, 8:55 AM
Nice review Ror, been a while since we have seen a revist! I liked this movie, it was what it said it was nothing more nothing less. If you went to see 300 expecting oscar worthy performances and stories then you were sorely mistaken. I really enjoyed this flick, a lot of fun and action!

TheLight
TheLight - 5/19/2011, 9:05 AM
300 was a good battle movie. Snyder's not that good when it comes to the stories. Still haven't heard about Superman. Zack Snyder being too quiet about the film. Don't know if I should be worried.
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 5/19/2011, 9:08 AM
I Loved 300 got way more then what I expected and left the theater yelling and throwing kicks left and right.

Great Revisit Ror! As usual, wonderful read!

@ Nunchux: Honestly if you didn't like what Snyder did with Watchmen then there is not a film maker that would have done justice in your eyes. The movie is one of the best CBM's. Maybe I'm a tad biased cause I hated the ending in the Graphic novel. But the Film was brilliant.
Brashlight
Brashlight - 5/19/2011, 9:08 AM
Nephilim@ I completely agree, I really enjoyed The Watchmen. I thought it was an excellent flick! Some people just take things to seriously!

Nunchux@ I don't get how you can say watchmen was a "Bizarro-Watchmen" from what I know and have seen it was damn near an exact representation of the comic, from the scenes right down to the tone.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 5/19/2011, 9:10 AM
I'm not a big fan of fictionalised accounts of historical events. The epic naval battle that occured at the same time as the battle of Thermopylae really should have been included. I wasn't a fan of Inglorius Basterds for a similiar reason (changing the outcome of the war?? What??). 300 was an ok film, but after an hour I felt like I was re-watching the same part of the film, it got repetitive, and every shot looked the same. And I must agree with Nunchux, regardless of what my opinion is of 300, Watchmen was nowhere near as good, and a lot more bland to boot.
In a nutshell, 300 is a decent enough popcorn flick, and the last good film Snyder made (even though it was only his second). Let's hope his diminishing directorial skills improve for Man of Steel.

A good review nonetheless.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/19/2011, 9:12 AM
loved this movie,well worth 4/5 rating.

the best bloke movie since scarface.
f4rrel
f4rrel - 5/19/2011, 9:13 AM
300 is better than Thor... imho

Ror, I agree with your review. Good read!
ablee337
ablee337 - 5/19/2011, 9:13 AM
I think Watchmen was pretty good for a movie, but it really should have been a mini series on AMC, HBO or Showtime kind of thing. I did like the fact that he got rid of the octopus alien thing, because it was hokey. I don't think anyone could do much better at squeezing all 12 issues into one movie, and if so, I doubt it would be much better.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 5/19/2011, 9:16 AM
HEY NOW WATCHMEN WAS PRETTY AWESOME NUN, THE COMPARISONS TO THE ACTUAL COMIC PAGES ALONE ARE TESTAMENT TO HOW CLOSE HE TRIED TO MAKE IT





300 WAS JUST AS AWESOME ..




..HE JUST PUSHES "BY THE BOOK", OF COURSE IN WATCHMEN HE CHANGED THE ENDING AND MADE CHANGES TO TRANSLATE TO FILM..IT NEVER IS EXACT BUT HE REALLY TRIES TO GET THE MAIN THING ACROSS, NOTHING IS EVER REALLY EXACT, BUT HONESTLY, HE GETS IT AS CLOSE AS HE CAN AND HE MAKES IT VISUALLY INTERESTING.
RyKnow
RyKnow - 5/19/2011, 9:17 AM
@ Marvel72 - I reckon the best bloke movie since Scarface would have to be Heat or Donnie Brasco. But to each our own eh.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/19/2011, 9:28 AM
Cheers guys. Nunchux, different strokes. I thought Watchmen was the best CBM we have had after TDK. It had it's problems no doubt, as a movie and an adaptation, but considering the scale of the undertaking I think Snyder did a great job.
Weapon420
Weapon420 - 5/19/2011, 9:33 AM
Zack Snyder did a damn good job with 300 and Watchmen, he seems to have adaptations down, it's just his original work I'm not sure about, I haven't seen Sucker Punch but I don't hear great things. So hopefully there is some kind of specific storyline he's working from for Superman.

@Ryknow, almost any Pacino movie before 95 is a good man movie! With a few obvious exceptions like Godfather 3, haha!
preacher
preacher - 5/19/2011, 9:39 AM
@Nunchux-REALLY? Snyder's Watchmen is the BEST comic book to film adaptation I have EVER seen! Like Gunsmith said earlier (and Gunsmith..way to go with the side by side comparisons! Excellent way of proving your argument!) Snyder's version changed the ending...but for the better! That was really the only change worth noting that I saw in the film. And I'm a huge fan of the comic, have read it countless times. The ending, in my opinion, in the comic, pretty much sucked and didn't feel like it belonged in the comic. Snyder's ending, on the other hand, was perfect for the story and felt right.

There is NO WAY you read the comic or if you did, you didn't "get it" because Snyder's filmed version of it hit the nail right on the head!
Weapon420
Weapon420 - 5/19/2011, 9:57 AM
Watchmen could have been casted better, Jackie Earl Haley was perfect for Rorschach and Jeffrey Dean Morgan fit The Comedian pretty well, Billy Crudup was a good Dr. Manhattan. Like everyone has said, the "dude" cast as Ozymandias was very homoerotic and the next gen heroes were pretty stale(Nite Owl 2 and the second Silk Spectre).
epiccomicfan99
epiccomicfan99 - 5/19/2011, 9:58 AM
the scene when your boy with the on eye tells hi wife you know what i think
Joe6Pack74
Joe6Pack74 - 5/19/2011, 9:58 AM
Never seen it, Watchmen was ok.
whoa123
whoa123 - 5/19/2011, 10:12 AM
@Ror- great review! 4/5 stars for 300 for me though.
@Nunchux- What? Watchmen is the best comic book adaptation, it's like watching the whole 12 issues into a three hour film. IMO Zack Snyder did a great job and also IMO Watchmen is much better than The Dark Knight.
GUNSMITH
GUNSMITH - 5/19/2011, 10:48 AM
YOU GOTTA WONDER..IF HE GETS THAT CLOSE WITH OTHER THINGS..IMAGINE WHAT HE'LL DO WITH SUPERMAN..

RedeyeJedi
RedeyeJedi - 5/19/2011, 10:51 AM
Great article Ror, I alway's like to go back and dissect certain movie's.
WrathOfOTB
WrathOfOTB - 5/19/2011, 10:55 AM
@Nunchux You are an idiot, I am going to hurt you then kill you! and people still talk about this movie!, and in the ending Manhattan was blamed for destroying cities all over the world not just the states, and stylistically this movie was just what it needed to be, it's a god damn comic book movie to the tee!
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/19/2011, 11:20 AM
Nunchux, some valid points of view, but they are just your points of view! There is no "should" about it. Everyone takes a piece of art a different way. For instance I disagree about the actors, I thought with the EXCEPTION of Akerman and to a lesser extent the actor that played Ozy(cant think of his name) they all did a fantastic job. Patrick Wilson in particular doesn't get enough recognition as Nightowl 2. The style fit the adaptation. Was it a bit too much? maybe, but maybe not. It wasn't the comic! It was Zack Snyder's interpretation, and if he keeps the most important things in tact(which he did) then he gets a break from me. I don't even reply to comments like "if you think this you're not a true fan blah blah". I love the comic, I also love the movie. Simple as that.
Shaman
Shaman - 5/19/2011, 11:27 AM
Spectacularly sweet though short yet not too short review, Ror! Great show :))

And as for Watchmen, if Snyder hadn't fixed the ending some people so richly masturbate to, they'd all be chuging his junk, even praising his slow-mo style as if the messiah himself had returned to earth, showing hollywood how filming should be done. There is no [frick]ing way we'd be discussing just how horrible having Rorschach NOT stumble while climbing a wall appears to be, in a comic book [frick]ing movie(when the [frick] has Batman ever stumbled in the films???), if the squid was in the film. Practically everyone was praising him for 300 until their squid bubble popped. Now they're throwing tantrums, criticising every single detail of his Watchmen adaptation, only because the squid wasn't there.

The squid made no sense to begin with. It doesn't matter what caused all those deaths, whether it was a machine, an alien or a [frick]ing wave of Manhattan's own hand. EVERYTHING could be interpreted as Manhattan's doing. I mean, the squid WAS teleported to the city, wasn't it? How could anyone logically say "duh, that couldn't have been Manhattan's doing! It's an alien! Duuuuhhhh". Anyone with an IQ slightly over 100 could think "Well, he did teleport a whole [frick]ing croud from under our noses. What's to stop him from teleporting an inocent life form from another dimention/galaxy here?". Loss of human lives is a loss of [frick]ing human lives, no matter how it happened. The ONLY reason the Russians didn't take advantage of the situation is the same damn reason Batman is even remotely able to overcome Superman. It's flat out PIS and it's just as "smart" as everyone MAKES it out to be. Moore's Watchmen is probably one of the most over rated stories ever written. It's enjoyable, but seriously, in our day and age, nothing more.

As for the film, AS a film, i agree with Intruder, aside from Haley's, Wilson's and McHattie's performances, everything else in the film was stale for my tastes(just like the book btw). But as far as adaptations go, visually (of course putting the retarded squid aside), there is NO better representation of a comic book put on film. EVER. "boohoo slow-mo", "boohoo no squid", "boohoo more slow-mo". Look at GUNSMITH's side by side comparisons. Nuff Said.
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 5/19/2011, 11:33 AM
@ Nunchux:

Your right, I can't believe you just had to do that.

Reasons your Jaded and over Critical:
1)Actors: They played there roles well and the characters that needed substance, the actors that played those roles delivered in abundance. You need to go back and watch the scenes where Silk Spectre finds out Comedian was her father, when Night Owl 2 discovers that N.O.1 has been killed, Dr. Manhattan in general, Ozymandias revealing his scheme, and as you stated Rorschach was just brilliant.

2)Style:I don't remember any point in the comic where they were actually hit by there opponents. In fact the whole Ozymandias being fast enough to react to a bullet is from the GN, so WTH were you expecting? IMO they fought equivalent to Jason Bourne except in stylized fights that you could actually keep up with. The fights were brilliant and I don't see any inconsistency.

3)Content:It fit the foundation and stayed close to the Source in one 3 hour film. He did great! Not under the circumstances but in general. So you would rather that they adapted it to look like Smallville, Angel, or Buffy then a major motion picture with Amazing effects and a perfect page to screen adaption? Sounds like if you had anything to do with the live action version of the GN it would suck!

4)The Ending: Yeah a giant Squid, Octopus, Alien, thing.....makes more sense....Instead of the once in a life time freak accident being accused of a Terrorist attack. And the world unifying to defeat his already tested and witnessed power....

5)Reviews, box office and lasting effect: No it wouldn't have LMAO! The story belongs on the pages. Never could have seen a live action adaptation ever happening. It did and it was brilliant, Especially for something that should have never seen a big screen. Not to mention that the comic is greatly loosing it's relevance. Many people did not see the movie because they knew little of the Comic. Lets stop hyping the book to the extreme level of pop culture impact.
l0rdleg0las
l0rdleg0las - 5/19/2011, 11:53 AM
Watchmen just like 300 followed the source material extremely well, but that said, 300 was much more enjoyable because of the performances of the actors.

in Watchmen outside of the Comedian and obviously Rorschach the performances were dull and would have been better with different casting. Although it is hard to say that about Dr Manahattan since his dull character is how he is portrayed in the comics.
catman
catman - 5/19/2011, 11:53 AM
Ror! Awesome reviews bro! Please do one on Superman the movie! I cant believe you have not done it yet.. :)
Brashlight
Brashlight - 5/19/2011, 11:56 AM
Nicely done Messenger07! I wish there was a like on individual comments!
Shaman
Shaman - 5/19/2011, 12:18 PM
Man, Snyder's a horrible director cause he made the costumes evolve from the generations passed between the Minute Men and the new heroes. Night Owl 2's costume should have sucked just like in the book, cause he's only smart enough to create a flying machine that, in that day and age, only aliens could have thought of in the first place, and clearly doesn't give a shit about superhero fashion. And Watchmen is considered the greatest graphic novel of all time since plenty of people in the 21st century disagree.
phenomenon
phenomenon - 5/19/2011, 12:32 PM
This movie may not be any deeper than a puddle....... maybe your most misplaced comment ever........!!!!!

this epic battle took place in real life about 2500 years ago.... democracy found its place thanx to the spartans, and up to these days, this battle is an textbook example ,for almost every army in the world , as the ultimate brave fight of a small army facing an unwinnable fight...... furthermore ... i dont know if you heard the expression.... spartan way.... or raised like a spartan..... and I can go on and on of the influence this people made throughout the 2500 years.....

only very few battles are remembered after such a long time.... and calling, a movie which tells about this historical happening , a puddle...... well.... its just another shallow, ignorant, respond!!
claybo4131
claybo4131 - 5/19/2011, 12:33 PM
Best kill the messenger scene in movie history

300 was better than Watchmen by far. I thought it kept dragging, I was looking at my watch going is this movie ever going to end.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 5/19/2011, 12:34 PM
lol, howdy Shaman, long time..get back here regular, it's not THAT bad!:)

Guys, I also can't believe I haven't done Superman! I will very soon, it can be hard to do a review of such a nearperfect(for it's time) film though..

Phenom, back to troll my articles? have at it. This film wasn't an historical retelling of that battle genius, unless there were giants, immortals, and goat headed minstrels present. It was Miller's fictionalized account of things. AND being deep, or involving, or thought provoking has absolutely nothing to do with the influence the battle which is depicted in the film has or doesn't have does it? Silly boy.
phenomenon
phenomenon - 5/19/2011, 12:43 PM
ofcourse parts are fictivious...... but the event wasnt... and if you just would broaden your horizon.... and look a little bit further than the USA, than maybe you would recognize the importance of this battle.... but than again.... I know thats hard for people living in a country which has no more depth than plastic and botox......
ThaMessenger07
ThaMessenger07 - 5/19/2011, 12:43 PM
Thank you Brashlight :)

@ Tea EXACTLY!

@ phenomenon the movie was extremely inaccurate in it's telling of the actual events. Still a great film.

@ Intruder

Thank you for honestly giving an argument as to why you did not like the movie over the comic. Sensible and simple Thank you sir lol.
phenomenon
phenomenon - 5/19/2011, 12:46 PM
messenger..... sure it was inaccurate.... no monsters in real life .... but immortals(again, no monsters) and few against many...... I think every person with a warriors heart understands this.....
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