Original ANT-MAN Director Edgar Wright's Scrapped Plans For The Hero's First Solo-Outing Revealed By Editor

Original ANT-MAN Director Edgar Wright's Scrapped Plans For The Hero's First Solo-Outing Revealed By Editor

Details about original Ant-Man Director Edgar Wright's vision for the film have been released by an editor who worked on the film, and how he never wanted the character to be involved in the MCU

By JonathanDan - Aug 17, 2023 11:08 PM EST
Filed Under: Ant-Man
Source: The Direct

It is safe to say now that Paul Rudd's Ant-Man is among the group of heroes within the MCU that are most-favorited by fans. If not for his solo-debut film in his own 2015 picture, the MCU as we now know it would be shaped very differently.

Original Ant-Man Director Edgar Wright, who had been working on his own seperate version of an Ant-Man film -- long before the MCU kicked off with Ironman in 2008, reportedly never had any intentions of making an Ant-Man film within the interconnected Marvel Cinematic Universe; confirms a crew members from the first film.

Though Wright left the project in 2014 due to creative differences to be replaced by Director Peyton Reed, but to still receive both a writing and story credit for his involvement, we have to know what exactly the original director's initial intentions were with this film and character?

To start off, co-writer for Ant-Man, Joe Cornish, explained Wright simply left the project because "Edgar Wright makes Edgar Wright movies," not wanting to place the character in an interconnected universe.

Colby Parker Jr., who served as the editor for Ant-Man, did an exclusive interview with The Direct; where new details regarding Wright's scrapped version of the film surfaced:

“His film, it was still heist film. But remember how we have three mains. I think there were, like, 15 people within the gang, the gang that was going to do the big heist. I remember I never got to see his script. But I remember hearing that once in discussions when all the big muckety mucks were in the room... [The heist] was going to be more of a collaborative effort and more of a 15-hander than a three-hander..."

Additionally, Parker Jr. went on to support Wright's desire in not wanting his film to introduce, or feature any other Marvel characters, or include Ant-Man in a bigger narrative such as the MCU:

"I don't think there would have been any other Marvel characters set up. I think he was going to be a standalone. He didn't want any other Marvel characters in the film... I don't think the Falcon would have been in Ant-Man.”

Of course the brief encounter between Anthony Mackie's Falcon was a complete opposition to what Wright had initially envisioned for his film, but did do a good job in roping Scott Lang to a world he was not at all prepared for. 

Could Edgar Wright every return to the MCU? In how Marvel Studio's is contemporarily paving their future with newer projects, there may be a window of opportunity for Wright to return in the director's chair to focus on adapting a different character.

Would you have preferred Edgar Wright's version of an Ant-Man solo-film? Let us know in the comments!
 

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ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 8/17/2023, 11:24 PM
I mean if Oceans 11 could juggle that many characters for a heist flick, I'm sure Wright could.
minato808
minato808 - 8/18/2023, 5:19 PM
@ModHaterSLADE - Danny Ocean couldn’t shrink to the size of an ant.
ModHaterSLADE
ModHaterSLADE - 8/19/2023, 12:06 PM
@minato808 - Now what does that have to do with juggling multiple characters?
GhostDog
GhostDog - 8/17/2023, 11:25 PM
Would’ve been interesting to have a huge heist team unite with Ant Man
McGee
McGee - 8/17/2023, 11:29 PM
Edgar Wright was fired for putting his Ant Man in Kevin Feige's wife
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 8/17/2023, 11:35 PM
@McGee - I remember reading when you wrote the fic about that.

That was ages ago. 😐
McGee
McGee - 8/17/2023, 11:42 PM
@DarthAlgar -

So was the Civil War...but it still happened!

...it still...it still happened...still happened...
DarthAlgar
DarthAlgar - 8/17/2023, 11:37 PM
I still think Arin Hanson is Edgar Wright.
Luigi
Luigi - 8/18/2023, 9:26 AM
@DarthAlgar - I request elaboration.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 8/17/2023, 11:53 PM
That makes sense that one of the most interesting parts of the first movie that I think none of the other main Ant-Man movies could really replicate, had little to do with those currently involved in the last 2, weaker, movies.
MrDandy
MrDandy - 8/18/2023, 12:05 AM
I liked the first Ant-Man but one of the biggest disappointments of the MCU was not getting to see what Edgar Wright would have done.
TheLobster
TheLobster - 8/18/2023, 1:57 AM
@MrDandy - 100% same
SpiderBloke2099
SpiderBloke2099 - 8/18/2023, 2:24 AM
Considering the fact his version would've apparently barely featured Hope and not set up Wasp, I'm good, thanks.
FireandBlood
FireandBlood - 8/18/2023, 2:38 AM
I’m not gonna pretend that sounds better than what we got because it doesn’t
Fogs
Fogs - 8/18/2023, 4:06 AM
@PlusUltra - agreed
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 8/18/2023, 3:30 AM
I would have LOVED to see an Edgar Wright film in the MCU, but at the same time, I'm glad he didn't compromise, his films are unique. I also wouldn't want to have an entire MCU going, and then introduce a new character that wouldn't have been part of the shared universe .

Yeah, nah, it had to be connected.

Do we know who came up with the toy train gag ? It definitely feels like an Edgar Wright thing.
CloakDagger
CloakDagger - 8/18/2023, 4:03 AM
for all its shortcomings, I still think the first Ant-Man worked. It's still my most favorite Ant-Man movie of the 3.

and seeing Falcon in it is part of what makes it fun.
i think Edgar refusing to compromise and make some changes to adjust to Marvel's ever changing status at the time just shows his creative ego getting bigger and him not being the consummate professional.

anyway, I still admire him as a filmmaker, and despite of what happened, we still got to see his "heist" movie in Baby Driver..which I just LOVE.

no doubt that Ant-Man could've been much better, but, compared to the sequels...it's still the best one for me.
Spike101
Spike101 - 8/18/2023, 4:13 AM
Using Scot Esther than Hank as the main Ant-man was one of the biggest blunders that still affects the MCU to this day. Hank is such an amazingly complex character it would have been great to see the Ultron, his madness, Yellow Jacket and his wedding to Janet stories play out.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 8/18/2023, 5:06 AM
Falcon was wasted in that film along with all the other cameos and garbage they tried to shove into the Ant-Man film and series over time, a disgraceful attempt to try and promote Ant-Man through the use of other Avengers. It was moronic to start off with Scot rather than Hank and Janet, you could have actually established a linage of Superheroes lasting for over a decade yet you rushed through it all to the point where we've passed down through three generations over the course of three films.

Disney's handling of the Ant-Man franchise and the decision to get rid of talented directors is a perfect example of why we saw a collapse in faith in the MCU to the point where we had directors and writers getting swapped out constantly.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 8/18/2023, 6:52 AM
Two points:

1. 15 characters would not have been too many for this film. It would've worked.

2. Having no other superheroes in it would help to maintain the film's integrity as a coherent piece.

These two points seem to be diametrically opposed to one another. But they are not.
This is something that James Gunn will never understand.
MaxPaint
MaxPaint - 8/18/2023, 7:45 AM
We need more Edgar Wright movies. I didn't like Last Night in Soho though, but I have enjoyed his previous films.
NoAssemblyReqd
NoAssemblyReqd - 8/18/2023, 7:51 AM
I knew Wright’s involvement with the movie was in trouble when he posted that he was doing “homework” watching Ant-Man related episodes of AVENGERS: EARTH’S MIGHTIEST HEROES. The movie was a project he’d been working on for years (I think even before the MCU) and apparently he had been asked to learn more about the character just prior to official production.

So, yeah, Edgar Wright is a great filmmaker but he couldn’t keep up with the new direction of interconnected Marvel movies.

In another universe, Wright’s ANT-MAN could have been the movie that launched and set the tone for the MCU.
theFUZZ008
theFUZZ008 - 8/18/2023, 10:20 AM
So, he did Baby Driver instead.
String
String - 8/18/2023, 11:54 AM
There's a story, pre-Marvel Studios, of which a director (most likely Edgar Wright) came in to pitch a Marvel film based on Ant-Man. And the studio executives didn't understand the pitch, was Ant-Man, half-ant & half-man? The Marvel executive sitting as an advisor, (most likely Avid Arad) came to the conclusion that studios would never understand or be able to utilize the potential of Marvel characters. That was the genesis to Marvel Entertainment deciding to form Marvel Studios in 2005.

When Marvel Studios was originally created Ant-Man was one of the early films being made, alongside Iron Man & Hulk. There was no cinematic universe. Just Marvel making its own films based on their own characters. There was no particular path. After announcing Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, Avengers, Marvel Studios was still planning non-Avengers films, like putting Runaways into motion. Edgar Wright was still planning his non-Avenger connected Ant-Man film. Throughout 2005-2010, Marvel Studios was operating on two separate tracks, Avengers based characters and independent films which weren't interconnected to Avengers. The shift changed between 2010-2011 when Marvel Studios decided to make all their films interconnected. That decision killed the Runaways film, which already had actors attached in some capacity. And it made Edgar Wright's plan to operate outside of the MCU eventually untenable.

Kevin Feige tried to be diplomatic for years to allow Edgar Wright's vision for his film to co-exist outside the Avengers plan yet still have the character to be connected in future MCU appearances. Joss Whedon wanted to use Janet Van Dyne, Wasp, in the Avengers but Kevin Feige said that character was under the Ant-Man franchise under Wright. So, Whedon utilized Black Widow instead. But the diplomacy ended in 2014 when Edgar couldn't accept the MCU connections being written into his film by new writers hired by the Marvel Creative Committee. It was a mutual accepted separation.

What's interesting NOW is Marvel Studios is in the position to offer projects not connected to the overall MCU. There are currently no connections to the MCU, outside of visual cues, with Moon Knight and Werewolf by Night. The multiverse allows creators a variety of ways to tell individual stories. What Marvel Studios couldn't offer Edgar Wright in 2014 is attainable in 2023. The question would be is there any character Edgar would be interested in if given the opportunity. Somehow, I think Edgar is over doing established superhero characters and has moved on.

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