AVENGERS 5 Rumored Plot Details Revealed Along With A List Of Heroes Expected To Appear - SPOILERS

AVENGERS 5 Rumored Plot Details Revealed Along With A List Of Heroes Expected To Appear - SPOILERS

We have some exciting new details to share about Avengers 5 today, including which heroes are likely to assemble. There's also intel on the plot and the animated Variants we could see make an appearance...

By JoshWilding - Jun 28, 2024 09:06 AM EST
Source: The Cosmic Circus

We're expecting/hoping that Marvel Studios will clarify its plans for the Avengers franchise at next month's San Diego Comic-Con, but some early details have found their way online today courtesy of The Cosmic Circus

According to Alex Perez, the idea is for Avengers 5 to follow a similar pattern to Infinity War, with several teams divided and battling different villains before assembling to face a much greater threat as they did in Endgame.

The site has also managed to compile a list of characters - based on several months of talks with inside sources - we'll see taking centre stage in the next Avengers movie:

  • Captain America (Sam Wilson)
  • Falcon (Joaquin Torres)
  • Wong
  • Captain Marvel
  • Monica Rambeau
  • Shang-Chi
  • Katy
  • Black Panther
  • Ironheart
  • She-Hulk
  • Hulk
  • Thor
  • Valkyrie
  • Spider-Man
  • Daredevil
  • Doctor Strange
  • Clea
  • America Chavez
  • Ms. Marvel
  • Stature (Cassie Lang)
  • Kate Bishop
  • Clint Barton
  • Ant-Man & The Wasp

There are some surprises in there, including The Wasp seeing as Evangeline Lilly recently retired from acting. To that, the site says both Scott Lang and Hope Van Dyne are "central motifs in this story," suggesting the latter will either have to be recast or her role given to another character. 

Other details include plans for the TVA to be a big part of Avengers 5 with Variants of fan favourites and new faces expected to appear. There's supposedly also been some chatter about a slate of projects set in a "Battleworld" similar to the one seen in 2015's Secret Wars comic.

Yggdrasil, the tree-shaped Multiverse created by Loki, is described as the Multiverse Saga's Infinity Stones, with whoever controls it able to take charge of the Multiverse and bend it to their will. 

"Right now, Loki has control over it, and he is simply keeping the Multiverse at peace and preventing incursions as best he can to ensure that every universe is able to exist in stable harmony," the scooper explains. "Much like everyone else, [Loki] is born, he lives, and eventually, he will die. And what do you think will happen then?"

Finally, it's reiterated that the next Avengers movies will feature appearances from What If...?'s Captain Carter and Kahhori. 

There's a lot to unpack here and a great many hints about where this story may be going. Marvel Studios' Multiverse Saga plans could become clearer in Hall H next month; unfortunately, we are expecting further release date delays to give upcoming projects room to breathe now the studio is opting for a quality over quantity approach again. 

Let us know your thoughts on these Avengers 5 rumours in the usual place.

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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 6/28/2024, 9:37 AM
Make a list please!
Feralwookiee
Feralwookiee - 6/28/2024, 9:42 AM
@Malatrova15 - Please be civilized and contain you're excitement for Josh's inevitable lists.

Just curious why there was no mention of Kang in this article?
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Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 6/28/2024, 9:44 AM
@Feralwookiee - in light of whar we saw yesterday in the debate...i find in bad taste to bring Jonathan Majors up
....Pablo Lyle on the other hand...
Matador
Matador - 6/28/2024, 9:39 AM
Josh starting his day like:

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Izaizaiza
Izaizaiza - 6/28/2024, 9:40 AM
Sounds....not that exciting 🤷🏻‍♂️ marvel need to focus on smaller, character driven stories. Otherwise, nobody will care about the characters in the huge tentpole films
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2024, 9:41 AM
There's a lot of uninteresting characters in that list, but I feel like whoever made this just threw every MCU character into it. Seriously, who's missing? Moon Knight? Lol
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 6/28/2024, 9:48 AM
@CorndogBurglar - what about fan favourite Iron fist?
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2024, 9:52 AM
@harryba11zack - Haha. Yeah....

If he was done well then people would love Iron Fist. Which is why that's so frustrating.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/28/2024, 10:20 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Yup, only ones I see missing are the ones from Moon Knight, Eternals, WandaVision (bar Monica Rambeau), Werewolf by night, GotG and Loki I think...

...but bar the two films I listed basicaly every main character from phase 4 and 5 movies plus a bunch of the more likely ones who at this point have only realy been in shows (like She Hulk, Kate Bishop and DD).

Actualy, non from Black Widow/Thunderbolts is on that list either and that seems, erm, wrong, having Bucky and Yelena there at least feels likely (even if not part of the main team, but I kinda figured a high chance at least one of them would be in it).

Also doesn't even try to narrow down how many or which of those will form the main team we will be following (keeping in mind how long the lists were for Infinity War and Endgame more of whom only had a few mins screentime).

So, yeh, feels like they just listed those who came to mind rather than reliable info actualy leaked from anywhere. I mean if Monica Rambeau is in it how come no Xmen listed considering where we last saw her?
mountainman
mountainman - 6/28/2024, 10:26 AM
@CorndogBurglar - You aren’t excited for Katy to be a full Avengers member in the next movie? For shame!

Yeah this roster mostly sucks. If they go with this, the movie will be doing Avengers 1 money at best.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/28/2024, 3:34 PM
@mountainman - There are enough heavy hitters with enough of a fanbase so depends which of them are on the core team we are following.

For the sake of argument start with three
Thor, Hulk and Hawkeye... ie original team members, yeh Hulk and Thor need 'fixing' but should easy to do that if in good hands (Kate tagging along with them as supporting role for part of it with Clint shouldn't be an issue for any)

Yelena is a direct like for like swap for Nat and if Thunderbolts turns out to be good shouldn't be much of an issue for anyone.

Include Spider-Man and that brings a HUGE potential fanbase making up five.

Course also the new Captain America who has been around and part of the team basicaly since Winter Soldier, if Cap 4 is good I know some will still have issues it not being Steve but...

Depends if and how many are added to a core team after that and who is just an also appears for a scene or two but when getting down to member 7 or 8 even if not that popular but has a strong narrative reason to be there...

...it also depends if the intent is for the team to save the day or fail Infinity War style or not.
mountainman
mountainman - 6/28/2024, 3:56 PM
@Apophis71 - I don’t disagree with most of those heroes you called out. It’s still TBD if Sam as Cap is as big of a draw as Steve. I was more commenting on the smaller names on the list. Maybe they can just be small roles, like Maria Hill in Avengers or Helen Cho in Age of Ultron. Side characters vs full on Avengers.

The bigger question, which is still TBD, is how popular are these new Phase 4-6 characters. Especially ones that have only appeared in D+ shows and no movies yet.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/28/2024, 4:00 PM
@mountainman - For sure on all of that.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 6/28/2024, 9:43 AM
At least she made it on the list
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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 6/28/2024, 11:16 AM
@harryba11zack - I might need some context lol. I never saw Wakanda Forever.
BobbyDrake
BobbyDrake - 6/28/2024, 1:46 PM
@TheFinestSmack - TBH, that’s Iron Man’s replacement!!! NGL
jerryblake
jerryblake - 6/28/2024, 9:46 AM
So somebody will try to kick Loki ass and steal the throne. Kang variants were defeated (somehow) so i guess it's up to Doom to succeed where others have failed?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/28/2024, 9:56 AM
I kinda like the idea that Loki is the Molecule Man or McGuffin if the story in that whoever has him , has the Multiverse…

It has a nice full circle feel to it given he was the first Avengers villain.

Also I’m sure some won’t like Katy being on it , I thought the character was alright in Shang Chi but I think we could get some fun action scenes with her archery alongside Clint & Kate.

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bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2024, 11:59 AM
@TheVisionary25 - if Katy is gonna be there, it's probably for nothing more than a quick line or two like with Ned in Infinity War.

Also, Loki being the Molecule Man of this story makes sense. I could see Kang/Beyonder win by making him the battery of Battleworld in Secret Wars, leading into Star-Lord's toothpick moment.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 6/28/2024, 12:02 PM
@bkmeijer1 - yeah , I don’t see it being a big role though it makes sense why she ,Wong and some others are there

It’s a all hands on deck situation
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2024, 12:10 PM
@TheVisionary25 - yeah, everybody's gonna be there. And if they're not there to fight, we'll probably meet them anyway when we catch up with the heroes they're companions to
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/28/2024, 3:42 PM
@bkmeijer1 - For sure, Kate Bishop for instance could just be in a relatively short scene with Clint when the team goes to bring get him out of retirement again then never appear again until an end scene big battle or end credit.

Shang-Chi, Katy, Chavez and Wong could all only apear when the team goes to consult the sorcerer supreme to find out what the frack is going on and non of them part of most the narrative till an end scene battle or end credit so till we know more the list doesn't mean much.

I'm more curious how they claim Monica Rambeau will feature without any mention of any Xmen considering where we last saw her let alone how she would return from an alt timeline.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2024, 6:40 PM
@Apophis71 - yeah, goes for a lot of characters we'll only see them for a scene or two.

As for Monica specifically, I don't think we'll actually see her until Secret Wars. Think she, Binary, Beast, Deadpool, Wolverine, Captain Carter, Kahhori and the Spider-Men could show up as a Guardians of the Multiverse then.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 6/28/2024, 6:52 PM
@bkmeijer1 - That is what I was expecting, only way I could see her being in Avengers 5 is if the main story was an incursion between the Xmen timeline she is in and the main one resulting in a one off fight between the Xmen and Avengers before they joined forces to deal with what was putting both worlds at risk of total destruction.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2024, 7:06 PM
@Apophis71 - I doubt we'll see a lot of X-Men, if we'll even see the team at all.

There's already so many characters in the MCU, there is no need to bring to many from outside in. I rather see Tony Stark, Steve Rogers and T'Challa variants if they go that route.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 6/29/2024, 3:28 PM
@TheVisionary25 - @Apophis71 - @bkmeijer1 -

Hrm, im think of making a discord for users to discuss without unesscery politics on the site. Would you guys be interested?
TheRogue
TheRogue - 6/29/2024, 4:57 PM
@Apophis71 - @bkmeijer1 - Im getting a sense of hesistancy. But I wont give up. I miss disucssions with good folks without constant talk of politics.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/30/2024, 2:44 AM
@TheRogue - I believe there is even one already. I'm not on the discord so I don't know how actively used it is, but this is the link I found: https://discord.com/invite/bNSBWHwtUW
TheRogue
TheRogue - 6/30/2024, 10:30 AM
@bkmeijer1 - A different one. Sepcficially for comicbookmovie.com
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/30/2024, 10:46 AM
@TheRogue - isn't there a subpage on that discord? I never actually bothered to check it out since I don't have a discord account
TheRogue
TheRogue - 6/30/2024, 10:50 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Nah that's too small, nobody could discuss in there. Just get a discord account, its easy. Just same way you signed up for here.
TheRogue
TheRogue - 6/30/2024, 10:55 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Im sensing a hesitancy from you. Fair enough. What exactly does not pique your interest?
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/30/2024, 4:53 PM
@TheRogue - yeah, I'm fine with the discussions on here. I blocked quite a few people on here already, so it's already civilised from my perspective
TheRogue
TheRogue - 6/30/2024, 4:57 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Prehaps, but if you ever want alternitive please dont hesitate.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/30/2024, 5:05 PM
@TheRogue - User Comment Image
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 7/1/2024, 7:48 AM
@TheRogue - Already have an ID on the Discord for this site but rarely bother to use Discord at all and trying not to get addicted to any additional forums or discussion sites. I am not against the idea, sounds cool and would join if you posted a link but being totaly upfront and honest here I likely would keep forgetting to check in on it.

P.S. Between the Euros (football/soccer) and F1 this weekend I wasn't online much at all this weekend hence slow to reply.
gambgel
gambgel - 6/28/2024, 10:07 AM
Im sorry, but I really dont understand the need to add supporting characters like Wong, Cassie, Kate and the like on a f**** Avengers movie.

This should be an AVENGERS movie, with a core team, not throwing everyone on here like all of them are Avengers. So everyone is an avenger on this universe or what?
looks messy.

ShangChi, SheHulk and Rambeau should be the only new additions, not every damm character from all the other solo movies.
Ha1frican
Ha1frican - 6/28/2024, 10:09 AM
@gambgel - Cassie at least does makes sense bc she was there the last time Kang showed up
ItsNotForMeWahh
ItsNotForMeWahh - 6/28/2024, 10:26 AM
@gambgel - Wong is Sorcerer Supreme
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