AVENGERS 5 Writer Jeff Waldron Rumored To Have Parted Ways With Project

AVENGERS 5 Writer Jeff Waldron Rumored To Have Parted Ways With Project

It seems Marvel Studios' next Avengers movie may have been hit with yet another setback, as a new rumor is claiming that writer Michael Waldron has left the project...

By MarkCassidy - Jul 14, 2024 12:07 PM EST

Avengers 5 is rumored to have lost Michael Waldron, which would leave the project without a writer, director, and actor to play the villain.

Since it was first announced back in 2022, the fifth Avengers movie - then titled Avengers: The Kang Dynasty - has lost director Destin Daniel-Cretton (Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings), original writer Jeff Loveness (Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania), and star Jonathan Majors, who was set to play the main antagonist, Kang the Conqueror.

Now, Next Point News is reporting that Waldron has also parted ways with the film.

No reason was provided, but Waldron had been working on the story for a while, so it's reasonable to assume he either completed his draft or was very close to doing so. In which case, another scribe may be brought on to revise/touch-up the existing script.

Unless, of course, Marvel has decided to completely scrap the current story and start from scratch.

Shooting is said to be scheduled for March 2025, and the movie is currently set to hit theaters on May 1, 2026. This gives the studio a bit of time to get everything in order (new writers have been brought on a lot closer to production in the past) - again, depending on how significantly Waldron's departure has altered plans.

Back in May, the trades reported that Deadpool and Wolverine director Shawn Levy was in talks to helm the movie. The studio reportedly offered him the gig in mid-March, but he turned it down at the time as he was still putting the finishing touches on D&W and was also working on the final season of Stranger Things.

Though negotiations were said to be underway, it never sounded like a done deal, and other filmmakers were reportedly in contention.

Despite Majors' firing, Kang is still expected to appear, although we can't see the character playing nearly as big a role in the story. We got word that Marvel/Disney had severed ties with Majors almost immediately after the news that he'd been found guilty broke, which would obviously seem to suggest that they were waiting for the verdict before making their decision. However, some insiders believe that the studio was never going to move forward with Majors as Kang, regardless of the outcome of the trial.

The trades don't mention anything about a new actor taking over as Kang, but do note that the movie "could potentially include multiple antagonists."

Deadline did recently mention some intriguing plot details.

"Sources close to the project say more than 60 MCU characters could reprise their roles, including everyone from Mark Ruffalo, Chris Hemsworth and Benedict Cumberbatch to Tom Hiddleston, Simu Liu and Karen Gillan. Unlike the first four films in which there was a core group that consisted of Robert Downey Jr., Chris Evans, Scarlett Johansson, Hemsworth and Ruffalo, many of the characters in this film would have equal footing, making it more of an ensemble feature instead of a handful of characters leading the team."

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thedrudo
thedrudo - 7/14/2024, 12:16 PM
Hopefully Feige demanded they bump the total characters from 60 to 80+.
sully
sully - 7/15/2024, 3:01 AM
@thedrudo - Marvel Studios is always flip-flopping with "quality over quantity". They say they want to do less movies a year and make them higher quality, then wait a few months when everyone has forgotten they said this, and then back to business as usual. It seems like every movie they're pushing out they have to cram as many characters and cameos in them, that they all start to feel like the same movie over and over again.
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 7/14/2024, 12:17 PM
MCU is not what seems nowadays. There are constant firing and part ways left and right just like lucasfilm. unlike the phase 1 to 3 glory days.
bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/14/2024, 12:37 PM
@Gabimaru - greed is the main culprit, they flew too high like Icarus. And for the other morons on this site that wanna say dei and all the other stupid buzzwords, that ain't it. The audience has caught on to the Grift lol
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2024, 2:33 PM
@Gabimaru - I think it's a realization identity politics isn't working, so they're quietly cleaning house and trying to salvage what's already been made.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/14/2024, 3:16 PM
@Gabimaru - Feige still doesnt allow for the creative freedom necessary to encourage creative types to join in on the fun and produce exciting stories. It's a machine and it's no longer well oiled.
Ironnick
Ironnick - 7/14/2024, 4:42 PM
@Origame - What a nonsense answer. Don’t you get tired of posting this crap on this site? Who reads “Rumor: Writer for Superhero movie potentially let go” and thinks “it’s the identity politics that did it”? Who thinks that’s a rational response?
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2024, 5:14 PM
@Ironnick - ...well I didn't do this. I was responding to the comment above which is about people all over the mcu are being fired. Is it really that hard to understand when you hire people for something, you'd then fire them when that thing ends up being a detriment to the company?

Context. It's a pretty big part of reading comprehension.

Do you get tired of being such a pr!ck only coming here to gaslight people?
JFerguson
JFerguson - 7/14/2024, 12:20 PM
Rick and Morty writers are so hit or miss.
KennKathleen
KennKathleen - 7/14/2024, 10:43 PM
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vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/14/2024, 12:21 PM
Only one person can save Marvel now.

Joss Whedon.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 7/14/2024, 12:39 PM
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marvel72
marvel72 - 7/14/2024, 1:25 PM
@vectorsigma - The Russo Brothers and everyone involved with their biggest and best movies.

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TheLobster
TheLobster - 7/14/2024, 2:46 PM
@vectorsigma - Joss Whedon sucks. Not just as a human being but his Avenger films are overrated anyways.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 7/14/2024, 3:19 PM
@vectorsigma - the crazy thing is....if Feige did it....Whedon would put so much into it as his big come back. It'd probably end up a banger. His Avengers film is still thee best Avengers film.. infinity War made Hulk into scared Hulk.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 7/14/2024, 6:20 PM
@TheLobster - I think they're entertaining but I think Whedon had little to offer beyond that and the idea of something interesting in his second movie that he didn't really use enough of to me. Otherwise, he writes quippy dialogue that is so oversaturated in those movies, Tony's obnoxious and borderline unlikable.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/14/2024, 8:58 PM
@marvel72 - i am not a fan tbh.

Imo:

- markus and mcfeely did all the geeat stuff
- the russos rode on the cbm hype wave that whedon started with avengers 1
- anything they did themselves after endgame sucked
- with marvel in mediocre mode right now, i dont think they can save it, maybe unless markus and mcfeely writes again with them
SpideyQuad
SpideyQuad - 7/14/2024, 9:00 PM
@TheLobster - lol yeah right.....
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/14/2024, 9:00 PM
@TheLobster - everyone in hollywood are sucky people. Where's your hate on them?

At least Whedon has the creativity and talent to make entertaining stuff
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 7/14/2024, 9:06 PM
@McMurdo - i very much agree on avengers 1. It started the whole hype for cbms and made me think that these comics stories are now possible on film.

But that is a big what if and Feige finally has the balls to make this big decision.

And aside from scared hulk, IW, although still good for me, gave us sickly vision.
The1st
The1st - 7/15/2024, 6:38 AM
@TheLobster - Perhaps, but, much like the OG X-Men films, FF, Blade, etc those films helped move the genre along. They also had some of the best eye candy for cbms at the time before Infinity War and Endgame arrived.
Se4M4NSt4ine
Se4M4NSt4ine - 7/14/2024, 12:25 PM
Honestly I wouldn’t be mad if Feige came out at SDCC and just addressed the elephant in the room and said due to pressure and inconveniences in the last 12 months - we’ll be pushing Avengers 5 AND Blade to 2027.

Also gives Ali a chance to walk away from the project with a brave face, despite that now, hilarious embarrassing reveal a few years ago at SDCC.

I’d rather Marvel just addresses there’s been some hiccups and they’re focusing on getting their MCU back on track by simply focusing back on linear solo story telling in the mean time. Gives them time to focus on the next two years, FF, Spider-Man and all. Especially with DCU gearing up to rival the linear story telling themselves.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/14/2024, 12:34 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - I could see them pushing it back but idk if they would do all that.

They have also addressed the hiccups so idk if they need to keep doing that.
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/14/2024, 12:37 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - More than anything, what needs to be accomplished by the end of the panel is that they convey to the public that they are taking responsibility and will ensure quality control. Make sure every movie is an event like Phase 3.
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/14/2024, 12:40 PM
@MCUKnight11 -no

If every movie feels like an event then that doesn’t make that feeling special anymore
MCUKnight11
MCUKnight11 - 7/14/2024, 12:44 PM
@TheVisionary25 - Maybe I didn't use the right wording but what I was trying to say is that every movie should count or matter. Make it worth seeing like how in 2017, all 3 movies made bank without crossing a billion.
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TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/14/2024, 1:03 PM
@MCUKnight11 - ahhh fair enough , I think I get ya.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 7/14/2024, 1:59 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine -
I'm expecting:

Captain America 4: February 2025
Thunderbolts: July 2025
Fantastic Four: November 2025

Spider-man 4: May 2026 (Taking the spot from Avengers 5)
Armour Wars: July 2026
Blade: October 2026

Avengers 5: May 2027
Shang Chi 2: September 2027
Doctor Strange 3: December 2027

Avengers 6: May 2028
Avengers 7: Nov 2028

X-Men: May 2029
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/14/2024, 2:31 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - a few movies will definitely be delayed, but I hope not to much. I'm hoping for:

Captain America 4: February 2025
Thunderbolts: July 2025
Fantastic Four: November 2025
Blade: February 2026
Avengers 5: May 2026
Spider-Man 4: July 2026
Armor Wars: February 2027
Avengers 6: May 2027
Shang-Chi 2: July 2027

I'm even already starting to think what Phase 7 could look like (basically just finish all sub-franchises so they can get to new stories in Phase 8 and beyond):

Doctor Strange 3: February 2028
X-Men: May 2028
Spider-Man 5: July 2028
Black Panther 3: February 2029
Fantastic Four 2: May 2029
Captain Marvel 3: July 2029
Shang-Chi 3: February 2030
Avengers 7: May 2030
Spider-Man 6: July 2030
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2024, 2:34 PM
@Se4M4NSt4ine - blade should just be canceled at this point.
BigPhilbowski
BigPhilbowski - 7/14/2024, 12:27 PM
Jeff Waldron? Seriously. The lack of proofreading on this site is ridiculous
MadThanos
MadThanos - 7/14/2024, 12:33 PM
@BigPhilbowski - Jeff Loveness + Michael Waldron = Jeff Waldron! 🫠
TheManWithoutFear
TheManWithoutFear - 7/14/2024, 1:50 PM
@BigPhilbowski - how is this not the first comment.

Jeff Waldron? Come on guys that's embarrassing.
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2024, 2:35 PM
@MadThanos - clearly those guys did the fusion dance so they could write a better script.
MadThanos
MadThanos - 7/14/2024, 3:00 PM
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bobevanz
bobevanz - 7/14/2024, 12:34 PM
They need to clean house in the writers room, almost everything since Infinity War and Endgame has a huuuge drop off. Your movies don't need a joke every minute, enough with the [frick]ing mid cgi and reduced practical effects. You clowns can afford to spend 250 million but can't be bothered to build a [frick]ing set lmao
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 7/14/2024, 12:35 PM
I figured this one was getting pushed anyway. I don't know why making an Avengers movie (or any movie) has become such a shit show. The Marvels, majors reshoots. Cap4, they reshot the entire movie delaying it. Blade, total disaster, they haven't shot a single frame yet.

I don't understand why the shareholders aren't screaming. We used to get two solid MCU movies a year. They can't even get one out the door now. I would scrap it altogether. Just do Secret Wars in Avengers 5. Why would you need 60 characters if it wasn't against all the Kang's?

(I still think Majors completes his redemption tour in Marvel, its odd they haven't recasted him).
Origame
Origame - 7/14/2024, 2:36 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - correction, they didn't reshoot the whole movie for cap 4. They added a lot and redid a lot of scenes, but they didn't just toss out all their scenes.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 7/14/2024, 4:51 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - I do agree with that they should just make A5 Secret Wars, albeit Secret Wars Part 1. Part 1 can be based on 1985 run, and 2 on the 2015 run
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 7/14/2024, 12:38 PM
Maybe they plan on starting over from scratch but I think he might have just finished his draft..

the guy is also the co-creator and co-showrunner with Glen Powell for a sports comedy show the latter is starring in for Hulu so he could have just left because of his involvement with that so Marvel could then hire someone else to revise or polish the script.

Anyway , we’ll see but I personally like Waldron so hope he continues with the MCU in some capacity!!.

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