Why Didn't AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Deal With CIVIL WAR's Captain America/Iron Man Fallout?

Why Didn't AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR Deal With CIVIL WAR's Captain America/Iron Man Fallout?

Frustratingly, Avengers: Infinity War wasn't able to devote much time to where things stand between Captain America and Iron Man after Civil War and the movie's writers have now explained why that was.

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By JoshWilding - May 09, 2018 02:05 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers: Infinity War
Source: Yahoo Movies
Avengers: Infinity War teased Tony Stark calling Steve Rogers to make things right but the Black Order's attack on the Sanctum Sanctorum brought a swift end to that and it was ultimately Bruce Banner who reached out to the hero. As great as the movie was, a lot of fans walked out feeling unsatisfied that we never got to see a reunion between Iron Man and Captain America in the epic superhero ensemble. 

Now, screenwriters Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely have shed some light on that decision, revealing that it ultimately boiled down to there simply not being enough time in the Marvel movie.

"Our first sort of wonky draft [had] the idea that they had to get back in the same room together and deal with that," McFeely said. "[But it] meant that you’re slowing down your Thanos [Infinity] Stones [quest] to deal with other threats from other movies. And that became, as much as we wanted to do, and as many times as we wrote those scenes, it became clear that this movie needed to be propulsive and be about Thanos and what he represented to the Avengers." That makes sense! 

You have to believe that it will now be down to Avengers 4 to deal with this, especially as there will be fewer characters on the table for the Russos to play with. Were you disappointed that the events of Captain America: Civil War didn't play a larger role in Avengers: Infinity War? Sound off below.
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Doomsday8888
Doomsday8888 - 5/9/2018, 2:56 AM
Huh...i thought this was one those things where they were all on the same page since doing a movie like CW before the next Avengers movies, surely must be part of the big plan.
It can't be a coincidence that those 2 never meet in IW, but if they actually tried to have that scene in IW...that's odd.

That's gonna be a really important moment in A4, hopefully they will hit all the right spots, cause...seriously, i'm really looking forward to it.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 5/9/2018, 3:34 AM
@Doomsday8888 - It kind of makes more sense this way. They were told how serious of a threat Thanos was, but the Avengers have never really lost. It's almost like it makes sense for them to think they will still handle it.

But now that the damage has been done, and they lost, and all of their allies have bought the farm, they pretty much have to fix their issues and team up. There's more room left for being arrogant or stubborn.
VincentStrange
VincentStrange - 5/9/2018, 2:57 AM
My first comment ever, so nervous, cant find any word. i feel like i just won an Oscar.
Ryuzaki
Ryuzaki - 5/9/2018, 3:01 AM
@VincentStrange - Well, it's not
Luminus
Luminus - 5/9/2018, 3:05 AM
@VincentStrange -
Luminus
Luminus - 5/9/2018, 3:06 AM
I know it's not an Oscar, but you get the point.
VincentStrange
VincentStrange - 5/9/2018, 3:17 AM
@Luminus - dont worry buddy, i got the point. But what can i say, still i'm really hyped. just like thanos, i was watching this place from a chair for a long time and i finally decided to act.
CaptainElrond
CaptainElrond - 5/9/2018, 3:20 AM
@VincentStrange - "i was watching this place from a chair for a long time and i finally decided to act."

Huh...that...actually sounds like what he was really doing.
JosephCronos92
JosephCronos92 - 5/9/2018, 3:17 AM
I liked how both Cap and Rhodey sent Gral.Ross to go suck a fat one lol

I mean, there's a giant angry walking genocidal grape about to destroy half exitence in the universe, and you're still busting your balls on those damn accords? c'mon General! give them a break.. but hey, then again that's something Gral.Ross would do, he's an ass.

Looking forward to Cap and Tony's reunion and how they sort things out, you could see Tony's still a bit bitter about it.
CuddlyCereal
CuddlyCereal - 5/9/2018, 3:22 AM
I think it was adequately dealt with. Tony and Cap are never seen together on screen and neither group of heroes are really on the same page because of it.
Kyos
Kyos - 5/9/2018, 3:23 AM
We still got quite a bit about their relationship. Well, especially on Tony's side. We knew where Cap was standing since the end of Civil War, and as was to be expected he stuck to his stance. "Call me when I'm needed and I'll be there."

Tony obviously still isn't over the whole thing. He's struggling to call Cap even in the face of a huge crisis. But he has that emergency phone on him in New York, which means he has it on him pretty much all time. He knows Cap meant what he'd said in the letter, he just can't bring himself to make his step to try to mend/clear up/whatever things.

Their meeting in Untitled Avengers 4 will be really interesting, for sure.
Origame
Origame - 5/9/2018, 4:10 AM
@Kyos - I don't know. I'm pretty sure he would have called Cap if Ebony Maw didn't attack. But by that point they needed to deal with that threat then he's in space so the call would have been impossible anyway.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 5/9/2018, 3:38 AM
It made Civil War feel rather pointless to be honest, as Bruce explained in the movie, none of the conflict matters when they have Thanos on the way. The long-lasting consequences of Civil War were fairly non-existent other than the idea of the groups being seperated - but that works if you have no understanding of Civil War. The only thing that really changed was that Captain America did not have his shield.

We could have gotten an emotional phone call between the two, but that was seemingly scrapped for building up the idea of the spaceship arriving/appearing over New York.
JustAChillDude
JustAChillDude - 5/9/2018, 4:03 AM
@Scarilian - they were existent, you're nitpicking as usual
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 5/9/2018, 5:04 AM
@Origame - The accords are the entire reason Vision and Wanda were in hiding, and were the entire reason that Vision gets injured in the first place.

They never "brushed the accords under the rug", the Avengers simply went to a country where the accords had no reach and then a damn alien invasion happened
Origame
Origame - 5/9/2018, 5:29 AM
@OmegaDaGrodd - First of all, they were clearly in a European country. There's no way a developed country like that is not going to get involved with the accords. Second, how much did them being in hiding matter to the plot compared to say being in their civilian homes? Third, Rhodes literally brushed the entire accords away the moment he was introduced into the plot.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 5/9/2018, 5:45 AM
@Origame - The country I was referring to where the accords couldn't touch them was Wakanda, not Europe.

Second, the accords being in place meant Vision had to turn off his communicator, which meant that Tony couldn't contact him to let him know that an alien was coming to steal his stone, which meant that he was caught off guard, injured and left without any use in a battle. Not to mention, if not for the accords, the entire Avengers would be together, meaning they would've potentially been able to stop Ebony Maw and Cull Obsidian from taking Strange which completely changes the dynamic of the movie, potentially ending in Thanos losing. The accords changed everything

Third, Rhodey is a character who made his own personal decision about the accords and how much they meant to him, not the movie making a decision about the accords and what they meant to the universe as a whole
DellRusk
DellRusk - 5/9/2018, 5:46 AM
@Origame -

Ross wanted them arrested exactly for breaking the Accords. Rhodes just refused to do it out of regret that he ever signed it in the first place. Its not brushing the entire Accords away. They are still in effect. The movie is about Thanos. They said what they needed to to convey Cap and his team are still wanted criminals and that nothing has changed with the Accords.
MyCoolYoung
MyCoolYoung - 5/9/2018, 5:47 AM
@Origame - I mean honestly, in the face of a world ending threat who would be worried about politics?

Arrest captain america while aliens were invading? If anything infinity war strengthened caps case against the accords and the exact reason he didn't sign them.
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