FEATURE: Now that we know there will be more Avengers and Marvel movies, who could be the villains?

FEATURE: Now that we know there will be more Avengers and Marvel movies, who could be the villains?

Who will be the villains for the upcoming Thor 2, Iron Man 3, Captain America 2 movies?

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By Selena - May 08, 2012 10:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

Will Thor battle the evil seductress Enchantress and her sidekick the Executioner? Is Captain America going to tangle with Baron Zemo? Will the Hulk face his greatest nemesis the brainy Leader? Would Marvel and Disney dare introduce Iron Man’s greatest villains, the Radioactive Man or the Mandarin?

With opening weekend numbers of $207 million domestically in the United States, and a total of $702 million worldwide, Disney is now reportedly looking to make a sequel of “The Avengers”. Movie goers probably already knew that there was going to be a sequel once they saw who was in the finale of the movie. There are also reports that there will also be a “Thor 2” and an “Iron Man 3” in the works, plus a new Captain America movie premiering in 2014. One of the major fan favorites in “The Avengers” was the return of the Hulk. If Disney studios and Marvel were smart they would certainly create a new Hulk movie. The Hulk character was the break out star in “The Avengers” movie.

With plans for all these new movies for the separate Avengers, one question for comic book fans is who is going to be the villains in these movies? How will some of the iconic villains of Thor, Iron Man, Captain America and the Hulk transfer to the movie screen? Would Disney alienate the large new Chinese movie viewing market by introducing Iron Mans’ greatest villains, Radioactive Man, or the Mandarin? The Radioactive Man and the Mandarin are both Chinese characters. Disney would not want to alienate a new growing market so Iron Man would have to fight another villain. One major point of Iron Man battling the Radioactive Man, the Radioactive Man was one of the early Masters of Evil, the major group against the Avengers. There is also the Mysterious Melter. Who do Marvel comic book fans think that villain will be?

In the case of Captain America he had another Nazi era villain, besides the Red Skull, named Baron Zemo who was the creator of the anti-Avengers, the Masters of Evil. The Masters of Evil were the main nemesis of the early Avengers, and Zemo was their leader. When Captain America was re-introduced in the early 1960s Zemo was only twenty years older from his 1940s Nazi era persona, but the “Captain America 2” movie is not being made for the late 1960s, but for 2014. Unless there is some sort of twist Captain America will have to fight another one of his nemesis. Who do Marvel comic fans think will be chosen to face Cap. America?

Thor has many enemies who would translate very well from the pages of his comic books to the major movie screen. Thinking out side of the box I would go with the seductress wily Enchantress, and her trusty ally, the Executioner. They would make a great villainous duo for fellow Asgardian Thor. Loki could make a resurgence since he controlled the evil Enchantress. Plus the Enchantress and the Executioner were part of Zemo’s Masters of Evil. There are so many villains. Who do Marvel comic book fans think should his villain be in the second Thor movie?

If Disney and Marvel introduced Baron Zemo, the Enchantress, the Executioner and the Radioactive Man in the separate movies they could bring them all together for a possible “Avengers 3”, a battle of the Avengers against the Masters of Evil. That would be epic.

Then there is the Hulk. There is no news about a new Hulk movie, yet everyone who saw “The Avengers” is in almost total agreement that a new Hulk movie should be made. For that movie I would suggest one of Hulk’s most intellectual villains, the Leader. The Leader created robotic machines and weapons that he used against the Hulk. It would be brains vs brawn, or would you rather see another Hulk villain?

Last but not least, how about a Black Widow/Hawkeye movie?

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l0rdleg0las
l0rdleg0las - 5/8/2012, 11:38 PM
no to Black Widow and Hawkeye or SHIELD for that matter. they are sidekicks and should remain that way.

as awesome as the Hulk is in the Avengers i can't help but think he needs to remain as a guy in the Avengers movies only. the individual Hulk movies don't work, and with the tv series on the way, i think it becomes too much of the Hulk if the character is also getting solo movies.

Masters of Evil would be an interesting way to go for Avengers 3, but i can't help but think they are probably going to wind up going Thanos in Avengers 2 with hints of Ultron for Avengers 3. and i still won't completely rule out a potential Civil War storyline for Avengers 3
VicSage
VicSage - 5/9/2012, 12:33 AM
Thor 2: Surtur and Enchantress with Loki as a side villain, perhaps anti-hero come to "save" the day briefly near the end for his own selfish ambition
Introduce: Balder or Beta Ray Bill as new allies

Captain America 2: HYDRA Remnants and AIM with Baron von Strucker and Baron Zemo as co-lead villains with Winter Soldier as their right hand man
Allies: Captain America stays with SHIELD as the militaristic life is all he knows; thus, his allies would be Black Widow (explore her past with HYDRA), Hawkeye, Maria Hill, and Nick Fury

Iron Man 3: MANDARIN.
Allies: War Machine.

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Disney/Marvel have their work cut out for them concerning these three films, in my opinion. They need to get started on Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, and Guardians of the Galaxy or Inhumans.
mstaley3000
mstaley3000 - 5/9/2012, 12:40 AM
Current movies planned and their villains:

Iron Man 3 - Mandrian(in some form - Ten Rings?), Roxxon Corp., Tony Stark

Thor 2 - Loki, Odin (doesn't approve of Jane Foster relationship), Enchantress, Executioner, Thanos

Captain America 2 - Hydra, AIM, US Govt or elected officials

Avengers 2 - Ultron, Kree, Thanos

Movies they need to make:

SHIELD - Ultimate super spy movie with Nick Fury on the outs with the council (usurped by Hydra or AIM). Great opportunity to showcase Hawkeye, Widow, & Fury who can't support a solo blockbuster but make a great spy team. Can showcase other SHIELD agents adding Mockingbird and even small time comic heroes making them SHIELD special agents like Shang-Chi, Master of Kung Fu or White Tiger or Hellcat.

Hulk - No longer in SHIELD's good graces due to desire to have him as a weapon. Thunderbolt Ross and the Hulkbusters after him. The Leader now manipulating events using other gamma monsters to frame the Hulk.



VicSage
VicSage - 5/9/2012, 12:44 AM
I don't think you need to have a SHIELD movie. At a point in time, I did believe that. But after knowing where Rogers is after Avengers and hearing what Kevin Feige had to say about where Captain America 2 may go, a SHIELD super spy movie can work in conjunction with a Captain America sequel. They both deal with the same enemies for crying out loud! HYDRA, AIM, Winter Soldier... and Cap is with SHIELD so naturally, bring in Widow and Hawkeye. You're set.
AVEN
AVEN - 5/9/2012, 1:15 AM
the masters of evil!
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/9/2012, 1:18 AM
iron man 3 mandarin & ghost

thor 2 hela,surtur,enchantress & excutioner.

captain america 2 baron zemo & crossbones

the avengers 2 ultron & kang

the avengers 3 masters of evil

the infinity gauntlet thanos vs all of the heroes marvel has introduced in previous movies.
Selena
Selena - 5/9/2012, 1:44 AM
Re: Mandarin - Even though he was one of Iron Man's greatest antagonists, he is Chinese. Will Marvel/Disney have a Chinese villain like the Radioactive Man in today's market?

Selena
Selena - 5/9/2012, 1:46 AM
The Enchantress would be an interesting villain for Thor because of her connection with Loki (plus the Executioner for brute force and great battle scenes)

danyu
danyu - 5/9/2012, 1:51 AM
They pretty much officially announced Thanos as the main villain for Avengers 2. That really shouldn't even be up for discussion. Who knows though if they plan on adding another villain. I mean, really though, if Thanos is in the movie do they really need to another villain, is there even room for one?

Iron Man 3 - Seems like they're heading towards Mandarin for the villain, but it'll probably be some form of Mandarin with alien technology, something that far exceeds Tony Stark's current capabilities. There's really no need to have another villain than Mandarin.

Thor 2. Loki is already pretty much officially confirmed as well, but they also said there would be another villain. I think Thanos will play a background villain role. Though, if I were to take a gamble at Thor's main villains it would probably be Enchantress and Executioner.

Captain America 2. There's almost no doubt they're going to bring a cinematic Baron Zemo to the screen. If it's not him then they'll bring Red Skull back because we all know that he wasn't killed by the Cosmic Cube he was transported. Baron Zemo just makes sense in terms of comic lore and using the classic Captain America's past revelations.

I'm not sure they're going to go the Masters of Evil route in the next two Avengers films either. I'm betting they'll do Ultron for the third film. Since Hank Pym is almost for certain going to be in Avengers 2, they'll be able to plant foreshadowing of him developing the artificial intelligence that will become Ultron. Who knows, maybe it's Ultron that helps the Avengers win in part 2 with them not knowing how big a threat he'll become.

As for the Hulk, when they do 'eventually' bring him to the big screen, I have hard time believing they'll use the Leader as the main protagonist. I know that The Incredible Hulk pretty much set up him being the villain, but I keep feeling they're going to go a different route story wise. Especially since the film didn't do as well as the others and wasn't received as critically well, even though I loved it myself. I'm positive they're going to finally drop the 'General Ross' thing though. Marvel may bring back Abomination. But I think it'd be pretty awesome to see Absorbing Man in terms of nice on-the-screen-action. Or Moonstone (Karla Sofen) because she could help add layers of characterization to the Hulk since she's a psychiatrist.

Okay, I think I typed enough.
IronDean2099
IronDean2099 - 5/9/2012, 2:30 AM
Obadiah Stane was American, did that alienate Americans? I hate that they feel they have to tread on glass for fear of upsetting people. It's a movie! If it was always like this, there wouldn't have ever been any war films.
IronDean2099
IronDean2099 - 5/9/2012, 2:34 AM
And they won't use Thanos until Avengers 3.
Orphix
Orphix - 5/9/2012, 2:44 AM
@IronDean2099 - The point about the Mandarin though is that he is a racist stereotype - not that he is just evil and chinese.

He is based (admittedly originally in the comicbooks) on that whole 'yellow peril' racist propaganda that was knocking around for decades. He is also, obviously, based on Fu Manchu - so to say the concept is dated is to state the obvious!

However, and I think Shane Black has talked about this, the character can still be modernised and introduced in a intelligent way if you avoid all the dated trappings. We may even see his origin in IM3.

One thing is for sure - we won't see The Melter - not after the (rather disparaging) remarks Shane Black had to say about him.

BUT I totally agree with IronDean2099 about Thanos. Joss Whedon has stated that he would like to see a smaller scale more personal tale for Avengers 2 so I doubt we will see Thanos in any real big capacity. I imagine a Masters of Evil sort of vibe with each avenger facing off their own personal foe. There are plenty of angry villains out there, still alive and in custody (Blonsky, Sterns, Hammer, Loki) they just need someone to bring them together!
manymade1
manymade1 - 5/9/2012, 3:56 AM
@ VicSage Having Thor 2 based on the Surtur saga would definitely lead to success.
bgharcourt
bgharcourt - 5/9/2012, 4:08 AM
There is a way they can make the Mandarin work and not upset the Chinese. Up until recent years,(1997) England was a major political presence in China. They owned Hong Kong. By making him a British Imperial(Kingsly) and leader of a international crime syndicate(10 Rings) they would have a Mandarin that would not offend and be some what histrionically accurate.

Here's my thoughts on how it could play out.

Hong Kong has a long history of organized crime, some of largest being European opium and arms dealers. These days the cheapest poppy sap is coming from the middle east, most notably Afghanistan. Now as you recall, that is where Tony gets kidnapped in the first film.

Now here is the connection. Raza(who sports a strangely ornate ring in the film) was(obviously)not the leader of The 10 Rings, but the warlord for the region. He and his band are driving out the people from Gulmira to make way for poppy fields. The sap from their crops is then sent to H.K to be turned into opium, then heroin.

By taking out Raza's group, The Mandarin losses a huge source of income. And with Obie being dead, he loses his source of weapons. the only one left to exact revenge on is Tony Stark.

StPete20
StPete20 - 5/9/2012, 6:39 AM
My thoughts:

Iron Man 3: Ben Kingsley is already confirmed as villain and I would assume he is some form of the Mandarin. I doubt he's much like the comic book version.

Thor 2: Enchantress, Executioner with hints of Thanos. Loki will be up to his usual tricks but I see redemption with him at some point, perhaps saving Thor near the end of the film.

CA2: A modern take on Baron Zemo would be best. Hawkeye, Black Widow, Nick Fury and Maria Hill should all be involved in some sort of capacity.

Avengers 2: Thanos. I don't think they will hold him off as main villain until Avengers 3, too long a wait for something that was already foreshadowed. Plus if we are referring to the Avengers as a trilogy I could see Thanos messing them up pretty damn badly in Avengers 2 and the fight continuing into Avengers 3. Ant-Man and Wasp need to be included.

Avengers 3: There's 3 ways I feel this could go besides Thanos carrying over from Avengers 2.

1. Wakanda and Black Panther are introduced with the Masters of Evil stepping into the picture after Zemo, Enchantress and Executioner would already have been seen in previous films.

2. Ultron. It would be tough to tell the Hank Pym story without ever featuring Ultron, but I also believe this is the least interesting of villains for a 3rd movie. This could also lead to the introduction of Vision.

3. Invasion of the Kree with introduction to Captain Marvel and Ms. Marvel. Highly doubt they would do another "alien war" storyline but I believe Ms. Marvel to show up at some point in the next decade and you can't really introduce her without the Kree.

Either way, I feel that Black Panther and Wakanda are absolutely needed in one of the next two sequels. Take the Avengers out of the city and into the jungle with vibranium and Hank Pym having a big part of the storyline. I feel as though Black Panther fighting various Avengers would be a very cool thing to see cinematically.

thunderforce
thunderforce - 5/9/2012, 1:24 PM
I say Gamma World for the Avengers .
thunderforce
thunderforce - 5/9/2012, 1:27 PM
what if they did Gamma World and from that created red Hulk and She hulk .
FightmasterNoel
FightmasterNoel - 5/9/2012, 4:21 PM
I say Have Executioner as a main villian for Thor 2, with Enchantress calling shots from the side. So,the heroes dont know of her involvment until Avengers 2,Iron man 3,I say have the Mandarin. I mean just cuase he's chinese dont mean chinas gonna get offended. As for Cap. I say have him work alone patrolling the country,and then at some point stop some HYDRA remnant scheme. Leave SHEILD BW and Hawkeye out of it atleast at first. And for Avengers 2 have Enchantress cut some sly deal with HYDRA. And those guys help her get Executioner free from whatever Thor did to him, in exchange for taking out Avengers. Then,make a giant man/antman film. With a storyline involving helping BLack panther out with Klaw or something. Then you have Mandarin,Loki,and Klaw as possible villians.Or AIM For Avengers 3. While adding Hank Pym and BP to there roster. Inroduce Wasp in Avengers 3. And then make a completly seperate storyline for a Hulk movie after that stuff dials down. THas my oppinion.
LoudLon
LoudLon - 5/9/2012, 9:25 PM
Thor 2: I'd like to see Surtur or Ulik. I think The Wrecking Crew would also be an interesting choice; imagine Thor having to come to earth again because to stop four bad-asses armed with enchanted weaponry causing all kinds of hell.

Captain America 2: I'd like to see Red Skull return. I thought Hugo Weaving played him very well, and CA:TFA is one of my top two or three favorite CBMs, but Skull's capable of so much more, storywise. If not him then absolutely Baron Zemo, though I also think someone like Hatemonger would be a great, modern villain. It'd also be really cool to see Falcon make an appearance, even if just as Sam Wilson, considering he spent most of the 70s and early 80s as Cap's go-to sidekick.

Avengers 2: Thanos, obviously, and hopefully that'll open a door to Adam Warlock making an appearance in the MCU. Ultron would be another cool option. As for appearances I'd like to see Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne; not necessarily as Ant-Man/Giant Man/Yellowjacket and Wasp, but just to see them involved in some way, leading to them joining the team in Avengers 3. If they do happen to show up, hopefully it'll be with Pym as Giant Man; if they include Wasp they'd already have one super-shrinker on the team. Two would be boring, cinematically.
Scholes60
Scholes60 - 5/10/2012, 2:45 AM
There's such a wealth of potential villains to draw on from decades of the comics.

For Thor - the villains I rather liked were the narcassistic dark gods such as Perrikus and Celeston Zheillia. Not sure how they would translate to the big screen. We've already seen the Destroyer construct and we don't want to overdo Loki. However the Asgardian godess of death Hela - would be an interesting main villain or perhaps even Mephisto or the dread one himself Dormmamu!

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Ace101
Ace101 - 5/10/2012, 3:37 AM
@Scholes60 i did not even know of them, just wiki'd them, and they sound like a great set of villains. Way to think outside the box :)

I would love for this to happen at the beginning of thor 2:


Thor 2 main villians: Amora and skurge, and karnilla the norn queen hence creating some story with balder, hint at hela, hint at thanos maybe in the after credit scene.

IM 3: Mandarin

Cap 2: Baron zemo or Baron wolfgang von strucker, and winter soldier, maybe madam hydra. OH wat would be cool is if shield makes an assualt on AIM whom they have been watching closely for sometime and then capture modok who claims he was working with hydra. Feature hydra island :o

I have no idea as to which avengers movie thanos will be the main villain in, but i have slight inkling of a feeling it will be avengers 3. Who knows they could create a solo thanos film how epic would that be. i would sht out a sanctuary 2 if that ever happened. it would be a great way to introduce such characters as adam warlock, captain mar-vel, the elders of the universe, i would love to see the chees game he played with the grandmaster done on screen most epic chess match ever XD
Steve81T
Steve81T - 8/22/2012, 11:39 AM
We know Malekith will be the villian in Thor TDW. I suspect we have ALREADY seen the Enchantress...in IRONMAN disguised as a mortal reporter trying to get close to Tony Stark...one Chistine Everhart (Leslie Bibb).

Hot blond, curious troublemaker, sex is a tool for her.

Just a guess...but it could play well to have her pop up in other movies.
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