THE MARVELS Almost Introduced A Fully-Formed YOUNG AVENGERS Team According To Kamala Khan Actress Iman Vellani

THE MARVELS Almost Introduced A Fully-Formed YOUNG AVENGERS Team According To Kamala Khan Actress Iman Vellani THE MARVELS Almost Introduced A Fully-Formed YOUNG AVENGERS Team According To Kamala Khan Actress Iman Vellani

According to Ms. Marvel actress Iman Vellani, there was a version of The Marvel's script that actually saw a fully-formed Young Avengers team introdcued.

By MarkJulian - Nov 19, 2023 11:11 AM EST
Filed Under: Avengers
Source: Phase Zero Podcast

Kamala Khan aka Ms. Marvel actress Iman Vellani was a recent guest on the Phase Zero podcast where she touched on one of the big scenes in The Marvels that occurred in the movie's final moments.

The scene in question saw Ms. Marvel going to recruit Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye (Hailee Steinfeld) for a Young Avengers team in a scene that paid homage to the first Iron Man movie's end credits stinger where Nick Fury told Tony Stark that he'd just become part of a bigger universe. 

According to Vellani that scene in The Marvels could have looked more similar to Cap's roll call at the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron instead of the iconic first meeting between Nick Fury and Stark. 

"Yes, it was pretty much the same lines...They were trying to incorporate as many as they [could] but I think it's best that we see Kamala form the Young Avengers, starting from the beginning. There was a version [of the scene] where they already existed and I was like, 'That doesn't make any sense.' And they were like, 'We know, we're not going to film [that version].

But yeah, it was fun and I loved working with Hailee for just that one day that I got to meet her, see her and talk to her.  It was nice to have someone to relate to and talk about the super suits and the future of where the Young Avengers lies. I'm very excited and hopeful that leads to something real." 

If you recall, Kamala Khan also name-dropped Cassie Lang (Kathryn Newton) so it's probably safe to assume that Stature will be a member of the Young Avengers.

The MCU currently has a ton of potential additional candidates to join the team including The Falcon and the Winter Soldier's Joaquin Torres (Danny Ramirez) who goes on to become the second Falcon and Isaiah Bradley's grandson, Eli Bradley aka Patriot.

There's also WandaVision's Billy (Julian Hillard) and Tommy Maximoff (Jett Kylne), who go on to become Wiccan and Speed, while Black Panther: Wakanda Forever saw Ironheart (Dominique Thorne) debut.

She-Hulk also introduced the Hulk's son, Skaar (Wil Deusner) who could be a Hulkling alternative while Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness contained the MCU debut of America Chavez (Xochitl Gomez).

Do you think the MCU will move forward with an actual Young Avengers movie or perhaps they'll be one of the superhero groups the audience will follow if Avengers: The Kang Dynasty or Avengers: Secret Wars introduces Battleworld? Let us know in the comment section below.

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Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 11:21 AM
She is worth keeping if only for the fact she has no reservations telling Feige he is wrong, should have consulted and listened to her more for the film tbh.
mountainman - 11/19/2023, 11:23 AM
Predicted box office for this weekend is about $10 million, which is about an 80% drop from last weekend, and it may sink to 4th place in its second weekend. This movie is a disaster. Way worse than the Flash.
vectorsigma - 11/19/2023, 11:42 AM
@mountainman - yeah way worse than The Flash that unfortunately was humiliated on this site almost everyday after (or even before) release due to BO performance.

It was no easy feat. Says much about how the MCU is now in shambles with no recovery in site. DP3 will have a hard time. So much relying on it that if it flops, it is basically nail in the coffin.

On the other side, DC looks promising. Aquaman 2 looks like it will have a good December run and anything related to the new DCU is to start work soon with James Gunn overseeing things.

AmazingFILMporg - 11/19/2023, 12:09 PM
@mountainman -

Worse than the flash but the flash got more smoke because it cost more and had a pedophile as the lead💁
AmazingFILMporg - 11/19/2023, 12:10 PM
@vectorsigma -

You are delusional 🤡
vectorsigma - 11/19/2023, 12:23 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - maybe, but im guessing aquaman 2 will earn more than the marvels
AmazingFILMporg - 11/19/2023, 12:24 PM
@vectorsigma -

That's for sure💁
vectorsigma - 11/19/2023, 12:26 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - yeah and iman is adorable and likeable and the film with a bad reputation because of erza earned more. Or better yet, more people watched it.

Says much about the status of the mcu.
vectorsigma - 11/19/2023, 12:28 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - glad we agree on that 😂
incredibleTalk - 11/19/2023, 1:46 PM
@AmazingFILMporg - These guys are talking about a superhero movie...from the comics....superhero movie...not the superbowl...not a Taylor Swift concert...a superhero movie...a superhero movie...from the comicbooks...not an oscar movie....not an emmy...a superhero movie....get a life!!!

garu - 11/19/2023, 11:23 AM
you know you're [frick]ed to kingdom come when your cast knows better than you about what you should and shouldn't be doing
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 11:38 AM
@garu - well, the ''We know, we're not going to film [that version]'' makes it sound like they knew too
garu - 11/19/2023, 11:44 AM
@bkmeijer1 - they've been setting up plot threads in post credit scenes that have barely been touched upon since 2021, them filming them in itself is just mediocre practice now that the audience barely cares to go watch an MCU movie nowadays.
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 11:47 AM
@garu - I do agree it's a lot of setting up stuff that just feels inorganic and forced.

What they set up is often interesting, but not right now. Should've held off on it much longer. Like the post-credit scene for Shang-Chi. Would've worked better imo if they slapped it at the end of The Marvels imo.
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 11:57 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeh not quite gotten why they are not setting up, maybe not the next but a film due soon on end credits anymore like they tended to in the main in phase 1&2. Setting up something that is likely SEVERAL years away is odd even if the end credit itself is good.
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 1:17 PM
@Apophis71 - didn't even think of that, but Phase 1 & 2 movies did set up like the movie right after. Only Quantumania really did that with Loki it feels like
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 1:31 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Certainly phase one it was mostly if not always the next film, after that tended to be more two films away if memory serves more oft but yeh doing non of that bar maybe a series has been odd.
Slotherin - 11/19/2023, 2:52 PM
@bkmeijer1 - didn't WandaVision lead into Multiverse of Madness, While Black Widow lead into Hawkeye? (leading with F&WS into Thunderbolts)

A bit loosely, Far From Home's post-credits tied to Secret Invasion while this was referenced in Ms Marvel's post-credits.
garu - 11/19/2023, 4:12 PM
@Slotherin - 4-5 projects out of, what, 18-19 post-Endgame? "A bit loosely" is an understatement.
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 4:51 PM
@Slotherin - those are some good examples of projects that do set up other projects released shortly after. The gap between FFH and Secret Invasion is big though.

And I'm willing to cut the other three some slack to because each movie was delayed. But still, it's not a lot nor a project or two after it sets up.
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 6:44 PM
@Slotherin - Good examples of setting something up with not too big of a timeframe till payoff...

...but all of a film settiing up a series or vice verse which could be considered part of the problem currently of too much connection between TV and film and not enough obvious links between most of the films directly to each other (plus the stuff setup in them taking years to see anywhere).

Only thing directly leading to F&TWS however was Endgame I think (2yr gap and film to a series) with Thunderbolts STILL about 2yrs away which will be about a 4yr gap from F&TWS and Hawkeye.
Slotherin - 11/19/2023, 7:30 PM
@bkmeijer1 - this has definitely been more all over the place.

I think the longest we waited on any stingers in Phases 1-3 was the Thanos stuff.
bkmeijer1 - 11/20/2023, 2:24 AM
@Slotherin - the only one from the Infinity Saga that hasn't been paid off is the Scorpion stinger from Spider-Man Homecoming. Hope we get to see him return in Spider-Man 4 though
Slotherin - 11/20/2023, 9:41 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I give a pass to that one too considering Sony's involvement.
Much as I want to see it pay off.
bkmeijer1 - 11/20/2023, 11:38 AM
@Slotherin - I just hope it doesn't get paid off with that Vulture/Morbius team-up
Slotherin - 11/22/2023, 6:55 PM
@bkmeijer1 - haha, [frick]
kazuma - 11/19/2023, 11:24 AM
I really hope we don't get a Young Avengers movie. I feel like the MCU's big problem is how jokey, and unserious everyone/thing is, and having a team of kids will just continue that.
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 11:31 AM
@kazuma - Probably be a D+ show, likely as a central part of a second series of the Ms Marvel one, if they do and think that is fair game for a Disney streaming platform even if many here will skip it.
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 11:40 AM
@kazuma - I agree on the problem part. The MCU is just constantly undermining itself, whether that is with story, humor or big action.

I do think the Young Avengers could work though. If the leads are very distinct (like Stark, Cap and Thor), it is very interesting to see the tension between them when they interact.
vectorsigma - 11/19/2023, 11:48 AM
@kazuma - it is very jarring for me to see kids getting involved in world ending events.

Kamala had no proper training with her powers based on her series. No one really was teaching her the ropes. Then all of a sudden, she is beating kree soldiers left and right and moving like a pro.

Didnt anyone from Marvel see how it should be organic like Dick Grayson or Damien Wayne?
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 1:24 PM
@vectorsigma - I mean we did have a teen at world ending events in both Infinity War and Endgame, needing more training is fair and I'm sure ample had issues with Spidey in those two films but in the world of Comic related stuff not that unussual realy so as long as it is well written/directed...

...feeling like a scratched record here but if they did a show with them against standard villains first in a few year and not the focus of Secret Wars it can work them showing up in it I feel.
Slotherin - 11/19/2023, 2:55 PM
@kazuma - I think it could work if done right and just as a brief thing like a single season series or movie that more or less sets up the next Avengers as characters age up.
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 5:44 PM
@Slotherin - Think some are way too fixated on the idea of kids saving the world when by the time we get them the characters will all be adults in their prime with how long it will likely be when they face an Avengers level threat.

Think Kamala is the youngest of the lot and will be at least 20 when Secret Wars comes out as the schedule currently stands and Kate Bishop will be at least 26yrs old and likely won't be the lead characters anyway.

Soldier go to war at 18 and at times younger men than that have fought in major wars of the last century.

The first two Spider-men in live action movies were 17 in their first films, Holland was 15 when Tony recruited him in Civil War and only about 17 (due to the snap) in Infinity War, Endgame and No Way Home.

I mean I get their issue with the idea of teams of kids, but a bunch of twenty somethings banding together to fight the good fight I don't see the problem with beyond thinking they should be taking on a standard level villain first before an Avengers level one.

Current release rate since the slow down I can't see a young avengers project turning up within the next two years meaning they will all at minimum be at least 18 and we should still be expecting the main characters in the Avengers films to be the new Cap, Strange, Hulk, Thor and a bunch of the rest of the already fully mature characters like Shang-Chi and probably Spider-man who is still currently 21 I think, younger than Kate Bishop.
TheLight - 11/19/2023, 11:26 AM
She was one of the only real highlights of the movie.
cubichy - 11/19/2023, 11:30 AM
If this is true marvel has no clue, the avengers are the draw, they need to bring Tony and cap back, bring the original avengers back, find the hulk balls, ground the story, like the winter soldier, remove the slapstick excess comedy, no more power rangers epidode. Create a narrative around the avengers, ff4 and xmen, with mangog as the big bad, redeem thor and you have a 2 billion hit. I have zero interest in young avengers, they are not known, the public doent know them and won't show up. It will tank worse than marvels, wich was a secondary character with 2 tertiary characters that no one cares about, shit story, fake villain and singing, really?
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 11:36 AM
@cubichy - think the characters you mention were so popular because they were first set up seperately over a long period of time. The same can be done with the YA.

The one thing that set apart the original Avengers from all the current characters were their distinct personalities imo. Having that interact was a really interesting prospect to look forward to. I just don't see any tension happen between the current characters.
Apophis71 - 11/19/2023, 11:37 AM
@cubichy - Ton of characers who can be the Cap and Tony of the films if well written, no guarantee recast versions would work for he GA cos not nerds like us and live action doesn't work the same way as comics and animation.

Hulk deffo needs a power up but easily done at any time but more the point next saga should be mutant centric with he F4. I am not saying zero avengers type characters/team but...
cubichy - 11/19/2023, 12:27 PM
@bkmeijer1 - that is true, but these are comic book movies and cap and Tony are the anchors ⚓️ of the avengers and they always come back, always. Why not do the same here, different actors, bit cap and Tony come back.
bkmeijer1 - 11/19/2023, 1:19 PM
@cubichy - think like the comics, the Avengers can have a constantly changing roster. But there indeed have to be a few anchoring characters, which do feel like they're missing
Slotherin - 11/19/2023, 2:59 PM
@cubichy - what's the point? Iron Man wasn't brought to life just by being Iron Man. People loved RDJ's take on him and his chemistry with others like Evans.
As someone else pointed out, you can get that chemistry from others if established well and honor the shifting roster the comics have had.
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