Why Giant-Man is needed in the Avengers movie.

Why Giant-Man is needed in the Avengers movie.

A inside look at how important,deep and cool Ant/Giant Man should be in the silver-screen.

Editorial Opinion
By TheMalcontent - Dec 29, 2009 11:12 PM EST
Filed Under: Avengers

First off this is my first article and I've been visting this site everyday since it was first started. So I'm a noob and a veteran. Oh and sorry this is so long, so please have patience.

This is intended for the people who don't know of or enough of Henry Pym/Ant-man and for the people who don't respect him and think that he is a joke.

So now to get to the point. It seems(for some odd reason)a popular idea that Giant-Man should not and isn't necessary in the up coming Avengers movie.

Henry Pym is easy one of the most important Marvel characters period. Henry Pym is the founding member of the Avengers, he created Ulton who in turn created Vision(again is a important Avengers member) and he created the Pym Particles.

He has one of the most unique personalities and stories in the Marvel Universe.
In my opinion to,not just only have a part in the Avengers movie to have his own movie.

The thought of Simon Pegg playing Ant-man or a Ant-man movie made by pixar makes me sick. Ant-man deservers to be taken serious and more importantly Henry Pym.

So here is Pym's story.

Dr. Henry "Hank" Pym was a brilliant scientist who spent much of his time in his lab. At one point, he met and married the beautiful Maria Trovaya. Unfortunately, when travelling in her home country of Bratislavia, she was captured by revolutionaries, and, despite Pym's efforts, she was killed.
One day he discovered a process in which he would manipulate a newly discovered group of subatomic particles through magnetic fields. Pym tested the serums on himself, and had accidentally shrunk himself to the size of an ant and was trapped inside an anthill. Once normal sized, Pym destroyed the serums, thinking that they were too dangerous . He rethought his decision, and recreated the serums, dubbing them "Pym Particles" and developing a formula that would enable himself to shrink and return to normal size. He also worked on a cybernetic helmet to enable him to communicate and study ants. Pym was also working on behalf of the government to find to work on a formula to help provide immunity to low-level radiation. It was then that several Soviet KGB Agents broke in, attempting to kill Pym and destroy his work. Pym donned the cybernetic helmet and newly designed protective suit, shrank himself, and escaped outside, to the anthill. There, he gained control of the ants, and attacked the agents and freed his assistants.


Pym as Ant-ManPym began to adventure as the hero Ant-Man, often running up against the villain Egghead. About the same time, he created the robot Ultron-1,who brainwashed Pym into forgetting this achievement and only revealed itself many months later, becoming his archenemy. In the meantime, he was contacted by the father of Janet Van Dyne to help him in his scientific experiments. Pym soon fell in love with Janet, who reminded him of a young Maria. When her father was captured by the aliens he was trying to contact, Pym as Ant-Man came to rescue him. Ant-Man revealed his identity to Janet, and Pym convinced her to join him as his partner, engineering her body to become his sidekick, the Wasp.
Ant-Man and the Wasp were mistakenly called to battle the Hulk with heroes Thor and Iron Man. When the heroes discovered that the Hulk was innocent and it was all a trick formulated by Loki, Pym and the Wasp suggested they form a team, combining their different powers to fight evil, and the Wasp named the team the Avengers. Pym continued to fight alongside the Avengers, but soon felt outclassed by the powerhouses of the team and created the identity of Giant-Man. Later still, Pym proposed to Janet, and the two briefly left the team for their marriage. Pym found himself back in the Avengers, creating another identity of Goliath. Although he usually preferred abstain from adventuring to stay in his lab, he continued to fight off-and-on alongside the Avengers because the Wasp always wanted to.

Years later, Pym, who was undergoing severe mental stress, had an accident in his laboratory, breathing in chemical fumes. His sanity warped, and created a fourth identity: Yellowjacket. He returned to the Avengers, kidnapping Janet and forcing her to marry him. When he was confronted by the Avengers and brought back to his right mind, Pym and Janet decided to let the marriage stand. They adventured with the Avengers, and later, they enjoyed a brief tenure alongside the heroes of the Defenders.

Pym's mental problems continued to worsen. He returned to the Avengers, determined to prove himself alongside the heavyweights of the team, which only added to his stress. At one point, he struck Janet, and later, during battle with the misguided Elfqueen, Pym lashed out at her just as she was about to surrender. The Avengers began a court-martial process for Pym, who, losing his sanity, created a robot to destroy the Avengers-- but built with a failsafe that Pym would activate to "save" his friends and regain his status. The ploy failed, and the Wasp, who discovered Pym's treachery, saved the team. Pym promptly quit, and the Wasp filed for divorce. Pym was further oppressed as his old enemy Egghead framed Pym for stealing nuclear devices, leading to Pym's arrest. Egghead led the Masters of Evil in freeing Pym from his trial, further implicating him in villainy. Pym soon defeated the Masters single-handedly, redeeming himself, but he decided against rejoining the Avengers. Pym later would ally with them when his expertise was needed. Over time, his relationship with the Wasp was reconciled.

Pym's research was monitored by Ultron, who later kidnapped Pym and other of its so-called "family." Ultron revealed that Pym had used his own brain patterns as a template for Ultron's intelligence, and Ultron intended to do the same with all members of its "family" when building a new robot army with Pym's latest research. Ultron was confronted by the Avengers, who freed Pym and allowed him to deliver the blow that defeated Ultron. Soon after, Goliath and the Wasp rejoined the Avengers full-time.

So please give my man Pym some respect. Again this is my first time.
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TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 12:06 AM
Hi everybody. I'm almost new. I'm been visting this site and reading just about every comment on every article four years. So I already know everybody like extended family. Oh and how do I put pictures in my post? I have no idea how.
DDD
DDD - 12/30/2009, 1:04 AM
I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Hank Pym is essential to the Avengers and the Marvel
Universe as a whole! To leave him out of the AVENGERS is like
leaving Paul McCartney out of the Beatles!
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 1:19 AM
Thanks you thriple D! I swear that everyone is crazy but me. I don't get how or why would anybody not want Giant man in the Avengers. DDD what do you think of my article? Is it too long?
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 12/30/2009, 6:22 AM
Great article< I agree with you. The entire Marvel universe would be different without Pym.

You did leave out one important piece of Pym history though. You forgot the whole Bride of Ultron Incident where Ultron used Jans brain patterns with a brainwashed Hanks help, to create Jocasta.
StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 12/30/2009, 9:17 AM
woah... cool. Yeah I agree and what an auspicious start. Well done.
ElBicho
ElBicho - 12/30/2009, 9:33 AM
Great Article.

Maybe he'll have his own flick in between Avengers 1 and 2, an be in the Avengers 2...
LEEE777
LEEE777 - 12/30/2009, 11:17 AM
TheRealEnrico @ Hi dude, great article man, an glad you finally made a account!!


You may not know me dude, im Lee by the way, i rarely comment on articles! : P

Anyone who doesn't want PYM or even JAN for that matter in the very first AVENGERS are not true fans in my book lol!

MARVEL better [frick]ing have them in it, or it will only be half the AVENGERS movie it could be!

Great article again man an i say a HELL YES!





1chris2
1chris2 - 12/30/2009, 1:41 PM
i like the giant man way better then antman.
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 2:01 PM
Leee777@ Haha! What are you talkin about? You comment on everything. Oh and you are also like my clone. I agree with just about 90% of everything you post. I could swear you were my brother or something.

Well I already know the whole crew, now its time yawl get to know me. Oh and where has multi been?
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 2:03 PM
On the real, how do I put pics in my post and articles? I realy would like to spice up this articles with pictures.
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 2:58 PM
Hell Yeah! I got front page!
Demonslayerwolf
Demonslayerwolf - 12/30/2009, 3:01 PM
I like Giantman, though I have to admit when Hulk punched him in the knee and knocked him down, the Avenger's animated movie, I had to laugh my head off.
DDD
DDD - 12/30/2009, 3:08 PM
Its a great article Enrico@! Its an important
point to make so its OK if its a longer article!

What Hawksblueyes added about Jocasta, Ultron's
robotic mate he made from Jan's brain patterns
is a very important point you left out but other
than that its a well thought out article!

Man, Ive been here a year and I still haven't
written a real news article, just fanfic but I
leave the news writing to the real journalists
around here! They all do a great job at finding
the current news from all the sources!

And speaking of news I guess Multipurposeponi
has been absent 'cause he's starting a new job
in professional journalism! All the power to him
and bless his widdle heart! lol
DDD
DDD - 12/30/2009, 3:13 PM
Enrico@ the way I put pictures on here is I have both
a "photobucket" and a "Flikr" photo accounts and
download my photos onto those sites and then get the
html code and copy and paste it to the article. Its
actually quite easy!

Photobucket and Flikr are free up to a certain amount
of pictures and quite inexpensive for their paid
subscriptions.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 12/30/2009, 3:41 PM
nice article and i respect your passion but i could not read the whole thing! haha.

The reason he isn't needed in the avengers movie is because as of right now i can totally picture and accept the way the avengers will come together using characters strictly from TIH, IM, IM2, Thor, and Cap. the way it seems to be coming together makes so much sense already, theres no need to toss in another character whose powers arent that cool. well he's a genius chemist whose knowledge could prove invaluable to the avengers, you say? well so is bruce banner, and tony stark is no idiot either, another scientist would be too many cooks in the kitchen. so unless they just have him make a cameo as a sheild scientist or something then bring him in more in the sequel i could see that. but no he is not needed at all.

He IS essential to the marvel u and it would be much different without him... in the comics. we've already seen the movie u is very different from the comic u.

but your article isn't too long at all! we all have lots of opinions we want people to hear! it's nice to see a fellow nubie on here:)
AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 12/30/2009, 3:41 PM
I Agree,He is essential.Like Jim Morrison to The Doors or Micheal Scott to the Office.
Patrick Wilson for Hank Pym!

Kudos and Welcome to CBM!
Hawksblueyes
Hawksblueyes - 12/30/2009, 3:57 PM
Banner will never be part of the Avengers for any length of time because he can't control The Hulk.
Pym and Stark are the brains behind all of their technical accomplishments.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 12/30/2009, 4:02 PM
Hawks@ you're right. thats why i want a Planet Hulk spin-off!! haha. send him away after the 2nd or third avengers movie. put out planet hulk the summer after... then, your next Avengers movie could be WWH!
Pym
Pym - 12/30/2009, 4:21 PM
SOMEONE SHOW DADDY PYM SOME LOOOOVEEEE!
MetalHead
MetalHead - 12/30/2009, 5:00 PM
Sorry, but I couldn't resist...

"First off this is my first article and I've been visting this site everyday since it was first started. So I'm a noob and a veteran. OH AND SORRY THIS IS SO LONG, SO PLEASE HAVE PATIENCE."

You know, I had to say the same thing last night under different circumstances...
JonF
JonF - 12/30/2009, 5:47 PM
Anyone who thinks Pym shouldn't be included in the Avengers (movie OR comic) simply does not know what he is talking about. Period. He's essential to the team in many ways, as is the Wasp, so hopefully this debate will be put to rest once and for all, and SOON! Those that disagree need to get to readin'!
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 6:27 PM
"Anyone who thinks Pym shouldn't be included in the Avengers (movie OR comic) simply does not know what he is talking about. Period. He's essential to the team in many ways, as is the Wasp, so hopefully this debate will be put to rest once and for all, and SOON! Those that disagree need to get to readin'!"

JonF@ I agree with you 100%.

I do believe he can be introduced in the Avengers without his own film. I still think that he needs to be one of the creative minds behind the avengers. Like if was all ready working for shield(instead of working for the government). Then they can spinoffs and or prequels.
Upupandaway
Upupandaway - 12/30/2009, 7:03 PM
IMO, I would like Pym in the Avengers movie, but without an origin. I'd rather see a spinoff. I'm saying this because I would rather see Ultron on screen rather than Egghead.

@SuperAlex: I see what you're saying, but Banner's kind of an outsider with the Avengers. Besides mental breakdowns, Pym is more consistent.
TheDemonHunter
TheDemonHunter - 12/30/2009, 7:05 PM
I feel that Hank Pym definitely belongs in the Avengers movies, as does the Wasp. They're two of the mainstays of the classic lineup of the team. You don't need to have a two hour origin for each of them. They're not that important in the Marvel universe as solo characters but they are important as Avengers.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 12/30/2009, 7:13 PM
TheRealEnrico; JonF@ i couldn't disagree with you guys more. tho I’ll accept your idea of having him already working for shield when the avengers come together in the film. And as for JonF's comment that "Anyone who thinks Pym shouldn't be included in the Avengers (movie OR comic) simply does not know what he is talking about. Period." while i respect all opinions on here i was kind of put off by that statement. I read plenty of comics, i know much about mr. pym, nothing personal but let me explain why i think i do know what I’m talking about.
I said most of this in my previous post. Yes, Pym was essential to the formation of the avengers IN THE COMIC. The movie is very different than the comic. Nick Fury is the main proponent of the "avenger initiative" as he himself put it. Trying to fit in ANOTHER founder into the movie would be a gigantic waste of time and represents a huge potential mess. Here’s who we already have in the "avengers" movie:
Tony Stark/Iron Man
Captain America
Thor
Hulk
Black Widow
War Machine
Nick Fury

Possibly:
Loki
Hawkeye
Emil Blonsky

Everyone saying that HANK PYM MUST BE IN THE MOVIES is only bringing up evidence of his relevance from the comics. So far IN THE FILMS the avengers are forming, their adversary can show himself, and enough conflict and character development can be shown with no need for anything hank pym has or will do. I’m taking the most literal meaning of the word 'necessary' and saying, in fact, hank pym IS NOT necessary. Please don't take this as me hating the character, i don't. But your argument that he MUST be in the movie is simply misguided.
Marvel is already having trouble figuring out how to incorporate this many cool characters/big name actors/action into one film. even Favs himself said "we're going to do our best and it could still suck" so the man behind the curtain of all these movies says this and you want to shoehorn another person in that will take screen time away from cap, thor, iron man, hulk, war machine, fury, loki simply because he was so relevant to the comics? And not relevant at all in the films?
People get mad about SM3 having 'way too many villains' and they should just focus on one and make him a lot better. Well any effort they put into Hank Pym is effort taken away from other, way more popular, characters. Yes hank pym was a founding member. So that means he must be in the movie? So they shouldn't even have cap in the movie? Because he wasn't an original avenger. If a founding member is so important to you, would you replace cap with him? Would you take out nick fury? Would you put iron man in his big gold armor? Not everything has to be like it is in the comic. I must have missed that issue of Batman where the joker turns harvey dent into two face and takes a bunch of people hostage on some boats.
All you guys are saying is what he did in the comics. That, in actuality doesn't really matter. spider-man, thor, hulk, cap, iron man, x-men would all still be around if pym never existed. The only character that wouldn't is Ulton. Whose origin can easily be changed into something like someone who was trying to take advantage of stark technology screws up and accidentally creates the sentient being known as ultron, shoot, it could be tony himself. If they even had to use him.
in the strictest sense of the word: hank pym is NOT necessary to the film incarnation of the avengers. Doesn’t mean i'll hate it if they put him in, he just doesn’t NEED to be there.
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 7:29 PM
Upup@ That is what I was thinking. First introduce him in the Avengers as one people behind the formation of the avengers project. Then they could a prequel and sequels. I do believe his shrinking and growning power can be cool if done right.

It might seem dumb controling ant to attack people as a superpower. But then think about his origin story on film.

KGB agents broke into his lab and he shrunk him self to hide and sent millions ants brutally to eat them alive. That would amuse me in a moive. I just would hate lame giant killer like Indiana Jones and KOTCS. Now that would be lame.
Upupandaway
Upupandaway - 12/30/2009, 7:34 PM
@Enrico: The only thing that I really disagree with in this article is the Pixar statement. The Incredibles was a better superhero movie than both FF movies combined. Up and Wall-E were excellent films as well that had very serious subject matter. They do good work and I'd love to see what they would do with any Marvel property.
Upupandaway
Upupandaway - 12/30/2009, 7:41 PM
@Enrico: But if you brought up KGB agents, he'd have to be portrayed as an old man. (They could be replaced with Hydra.) I think it would be good to have a Pym/Van Dyne subplot and turn him into Giant Man when the sh!t really hits the fan in the Avengers. They could play on him wanting to impress this woman in the midst of all of these super powered muscle men. He could be working on a smart automated defense system (I.e. the beginnings of Ultron) for SHIELD when he's introduced.
JoshWilding
JoshWilding - 12/30/2009, 7:57 PM
TheRealEnrico: Excellent article - I completely agree!!

I hate all this talk of Simon Pegg as Ant-Man! Dont get me wrong, I really like the guy but he is nowhere near right to play Pym! He'd be ok for a comedic Eric O'Grady version of the character but thats about it IMO! :)

I know that The Ultimates arent all that liked by many on here (though I personally think that Mark Millar's run on the title was one of the best comic book series' ever!) but I think that introducing Pym and Janet that way would work best - have them as S.H.I.E.L.D scientists and start Pym off as Giant-Man with some hints about his idea of Ant-Man...you could even see him creating the tech which is later stolen by a different character (Grady or Scott Lang) for an Ant-Man spin off if they're that desperate to make it!!

TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 8:01 PM
@SuperAlex I understand what you are sayiing, but I respectively disagree. No one said that Black Widow, War Machine or Nick Fury is apart of the avengers. Nick is putting the team together. No says that he is going to be a member.

Just because War Machine in a movie doesn't mean that he is going be a avenger or even in the avengers movie. By that logic Happy Hogan, The Leader and Pepper Potts are going to be Avengers aswell right? Same goes with Black Widow.

Nick Fury can easily be the one going out and recruiting the members and be the head of shield, but does mean that everything that out of shield is Fury idea and Fury's plan. He still can be ONE of the mind behind the avengers at the least.


I think it would be very stupid if they had Iron-man and War Machine in the Avenger. Oh and three people without superpowers(Captain America,Black Widow and Nick Fury). If thats the type of Avenger they're making I don't want to see it.
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 8:14 PM
I love all of the pixar movies and I haven't seen a Simon Pegg movie I didn't like. He is a great actor and is funny as hell, but so very wrong for Hank Pym. Out of all great character in the MU Ant-man in my opinion would make a lame pixar movie.
josh24@ I like both Ultimate 616 Hank, but I don't care much for the ultimate universe. I do like how make all the characters alittle more deep tho.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 12/30/2009, 8:14 PM
@RealEnrico: of course man, respect all around. we all have different things we want to see. u spent alot of time working on your article, im not trying to tear it down, just offering up my side:)

As far as the black widow and war machine being on or in the avengers, i did not expect that but have heard rumblings that those characters will be in the movie. so im counting on them showing up. and perhaps i should have clarified; those characters i mentioned as being in the movie, i didn't mean on the team. so your right fury and black widow don't really have to be avengers just sheild representatives. however thats still alot of characters to tackle in one film. there will be alot of people needing screen time that aren't avengers. my main concern is just getting the big three their justified screen time. any other additional characters takes away from them. and im afraid if they do that, the movie wont be as good as it could be.
And you have to keep this in mind: it's all about how well the character is received by the audience. i've read joe q say this. if people like the black widow that could lead to her being in either the avengers or her own spin-off. same with WM. i think WM will really take off as a character and people will want to see him in the avengers. again, he doesn't have to be on the team to be in the movie. he could work for sheild.

After all the disagreements here's one thing i know we both agree on: if pym showed up as some sheild scientist working for them, that would totally work. but where we go astray is having him an actual importmant MEMBER of the team.

And as for The avengers team with no super powers... HULK and THOR, man! c'mon!! haha
CapsUnknownSidekick
CapsUnknownSidekick - 12/30/2009, 8:18 PM
OK, so I'm posting for the first time ever on this board/forum/site... thanks for having me. I felt an inclination to chime in. First off, congrats on your first piece! It is a solid first effort.

Now, on to the subject at hand; namely the esteemed Dr. Pym. I find myself in a similar camp as SuperAlex because I really do enjoy Pym's character. The juxtaposition of his ego vs. his low self confidence makes for great reading. However, I don't feel that we do him a great service by tossing him into the fire at the outset.

You give him a brief cameo in "The Avengers" certainly. Maybe even make him the head of project development and research for The Avenger Initiative. However I think you miss a great opportunity to expand the Movie Marvel U if you go beyond that.

Imagine if you will a man who has been working on developing living weapons for the Avengers Initiative for years. He has had moderate success within the realm of AI, and even managed a breakthrough in sub atomic particle physics. He's Fury's golden boy... Then Tony Stark shows up on live television confessing to the world that "I am Iron Man," and a huge green mutation saves NYC from a military experiment gone awry.

Once the game changes Pym tries his best to keep up, but then Thor and Cap are entered into the mix and this ego-centric genius of a man feels about as significant as a bug in their presense. How much more emasculated could he be, especially as he sees his funding being re-budgeted to the newly minted Avengers?

This inspires him to push his work further. He starts radical testing on himself and abandons his AI project "Ultron-1" in favor of finding a way to become the hero instead. Eventually his work bears fruit and Giant-Man strides into the picture ready to stand head and shoulders above legends, gods, and monsters in the Avengers Sequel. Unfortunately though, Ultron-1 is far too much like his creator/father to just let some flesh bags think they are superior and a truly sinister villain is introduced as well.

Now where would you do all the Pym stuff? I'm assuming in his movie. Hadn't thought that far ahead yet... but back to my original point; not only is it understandable that Hank sit the first movie out, it's actually a good idea because regardless of how great a character he is he doesn't have the iconic status that cap does, the pop culture following that Hulk does, the Hollywood following that Iron Man does, or the astonishing powers and presense that Thor (should) have/has.

If you bring Pym in for the sequel then you get a movie that can focus on his story because we ALL(?) want to see Ultron taking on Earth's Mightiest right?

Just some food for thought. Hope you all don't mind my 2 cents.
OdinsBeard
OdinsBeard - 12/30/2009, 8:36 PM
CapsUnknown@ Welcome, im new myself. i know you tried to agree with me but shit... i think your whole synopsis just brought me over to Enrico's side! Hhaha! thats a great idea! if they did that there would be no complaining from me! but then you know you still run into the problem of what do you do with all of the others while you focus on pym. you had it right. putting him in the movie will do him no justice at all. in order for people to like him they'd have to spend alot of time on him. time i just dont think they have.

(im bored as [frick] at work. that's why i've been posting so much! haha but its great discussion!)
CapsUnknownSidekick
CapsUnknownSidekick - 12/30/2009, 9:01 PM
That's what I'm sayin... you introduce Pym as head of blah blah blah in The Avengers and that's all. John and Jane movie goer will be clueless and not feel bogged down and we comic geeks can feel we've been fan serviced.

After that you do the Ant-Man movie. Have it start out with the actor narrating "Does anyone really know what it's like to feel as insignificant as a bug? My name's Doctor Henry Pym; and after the events of the last six months I can say without a doubt that I do..." then you go into his story. Get some cool Fury Cameos, have Janet be his top assistant and the only person that really believes he's still relevant with all these other superheroes popping up.

Honestly, I see immense possibility for the characters (Hank, Janet, & Ultron) and I guess what I want to see is their movie. I want to see the "Ant-Man" feature before he ever becomes a significant part of The Avengers. Since Marvel doesn't have him on the docket before Avengers comes out, then I say you save him for the sequel.
jusme6
jusme6 - 12/30/2009, 9:09 PM
Nice break out article Enrico! My breakout article was not nearly as good. Don't be a stranger.
Bienvenidos CapsSidekick!
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 9:11 PM
Sidekick@ That is my point. He needs more then a breif cameo. If you were to have Ultron in the sequels. He need a important role in the movies. If he is not in the first one they should never introduce at all. His most important role is being the founder of the Avengers. His story and characters evolves around trying to keep up with the rest of the other super hereos.

Oh and thank you for making your first comment on my article. Its a honer.
I also a first time poster. I have only post like three comment like a year ago.
TheMalcontent
TheMalcontent - 12/30/2009, 9:24 PM
Thanks jusme6! SuperAlex it is this simple. These are the chararcters in this story. All of them are important and none of them should be left out.

Why would you want them to make a story if they can't make it right. Its the Avengers story so thats what I want to see. Its not Ultimates or the Justice League.

Oh and I hope you know that I understand and respect everthing that you are saying. I just like to debate.
I can agree to disagree, but I always try get people not just to see it my way but agree with me aswel. But if that doesn't I guess we can disagree.

But you are staring to agree with me. right? Yeah I knew you would. Thanks buddy.
alcinde4
alcinde4 - 12/30/2009, 10:01 PM
@CapsUnknownSidekick That should absolutely be made into a screenplay. I would be extremely disappointed if Ant-Man's inclusion in the Avengers wasn't an extremely close approximation to what you described. It's close enough to the source material,(Ultimates/Avengers) yet fresh enough to have movie-goers intrigued. Damn good stuff man!!!
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