How An HBO Batman Series Could Save The DCEU

How An HBO Batman Series Could Save The DCEU

With the triumph of modern TV (in hugely-successful shows such as Game of Thrones and The Flash), is it only a matter of time before The World's Greatest Detective makes the leap towards gaining a live-action television series; which could act as connective-tissue to the big-budgeted blockbusters?

Editorial Opinion
By thejon93rd - Sep 08, 2016 03:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Batman



Overall, I haven't many quarrels with the current slate of DCEU live-action features. All 3 films have had their problems (some more upsetting than others), but they do display a built-up universe that has the potential to get better-and-better with each passing installment. With that in-mind, let's take a quick look at what DC's been doing with their television adaptations. Personally, I don't care for them (same goes for Marvel, minus their Netflix efforts), though I'm pleased to see that many people have become fans of such shows as The Flash and Supergirl, both of which help in showcasing how successful a series based on popular characters can become. While this is, for the time being, a good start, I'd love to see WB/DC take it to the next level with one of the best (if not, the best) networks on TV: HBO.

 

 

Looking at shows such as The Wire, The Sopranos and, more recently, the first season of True Detective, it's debatable why WB hasn't prominently featured their DC properties across this medium. Game of Thrones is their shining star for the time being and, with a new show like Westworld on the horizon, they seem nearly unstoppable, at least for now. With the growing interest in Netflix-programming (and amazing series like Daredevil, House of Cards, Stranger Things, etc.), maybe it's about time for DC to battle back for when it comes down to total-television-domination. What better way to challenge Marvel's run than a TV series based on their most-beloved character: The Batman?

 

 

Earlier I brought up the first season of True Detective, by this point in time, you've probably heard all about how amazing the series turned out to be, and how disappointing the second season ended up being. A great cast was utilized, with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson delivering (arguably) the finest performances in their already-impressive careers, and the screenwriting was impeccable, leaving enough breadcrumbs within each episode to uncover the haunting mystery along with our two-leading characters. Within the live-action Batman movies, there has been almost zero detective-work throughout, and that's truly a shame, considering this is the World's Greatest Detective. Hell, if shows like Sherlock and True Detective are putting Batman's investigative abilities to shame... it's probably about time to bring the character back full-circle.

 

 

Remember Batman: The Animated Series or, better yet, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm? Those were the ultimate, crowing-achievements for The Dark Knight (in my opinion) because they explored adult-themes without having to talk-down to kids. Something that Suicide Squad failed with was the backstory for Harley Quinn, though Margot Robbie and Jared Leto gave solid performances, the material to make worthwhile characters was not properly portrayed, whereas Batman: The Animated Series (in particular, the episode entitled "Mad Love") handled the character in a genuine, wholehearted way; turning her into a fan-favourite character in the process. With so much footage of actual substance just lying on the cutting room floor for Suicide Squad, such as more scenes between The Joker and Harley, showcasing their abusive relationship (making Harley Quinn a more naive, sympathetic character, as opposed to a cliched, "Puddin'" rider), it's easy to imagine a movie as ambitious as Suicide Squad making a greater splash as a television series rather than a crammed 2-hour feature film.

 

 

With a phenomenal actor/director currently invested in the Batman role, why not transform this slated Batman movie into an HBO mini-series instead? Sure, it'd be a gamble. But haven't WB/DC been trying that enough with risky investments such as Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad alike? They've got the perfect model in-place for a live-action Batman series and it's called True Detective, that show would have ended perfectly after the first season because everything had a logical resolution: not every bad guy headed up behind bars (or worse) because our two detectives at the heart of the tale are not superhuman, they're just men looking to right past wrongs and make positive changes in the process. By the end of the show's first season, we appreciate both of these characters because we've journeyed with them throughout their times of corruption and days for redemption to take hold.

 

 

We need a Batman live-action series if we want to see television be (once again) revolutionized. I am sick of having to wait 2-3 years at a time in-order to see my favourite superheroes/villains on the big-screen, and for what? Only to be disappointed by the final-product? Something like that only amounts to a whole lotta hype for a whole lotta nothin', and that's not fair to the fans who inject endless doses of cash into these ongoing franchises. We need substance, not generic action sequences where a blue-light is blasted into the sky and threatens to destroy the world only for our protagonists to stop the threat just in the nick of time. Can we get a Batman series that lets The Caped Crusader actually talk to his antagonists, rather than just punch 'em up all the time? If they're going to do an idea like this right, they need the right person for the job, somebody who's familiar with the crime genre, and somebody who's worked with our lead actor before (in what may be his best performance to-date).

 

 

Of course, I'm talking about David Fincher.


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Utopian8418
Utopian8418 - 9/8/2016, 4:28 PM
Absolutly agree 100%. Another reaso for this is Batman's history. A TV series is the only way to see all the awesome history of all the Robins and the villains. But I don't think WB, Affleck or Fincher will do this because movies are much more profitable.
thejon93rd
thejon93rd - 9/8/2016, 5:02 PM
@ManMan - "I don't think WB, Affleck or Fincher will do this because movies are much more profitable". The whole time while writing this article, this thought kept lingering in my mind. However, due to the ever-increasing budget for a show like Game of Thrones, I think that an artist such as Affleck or Fincher would love to have the creative freedom to make a Batman series the way that they envision it. Especially if this was just a mini-series (ranging anywhere from 7-10 episodes), it'd be extremely profitable in the long-run because the 2 recent DCEU films (Batman v Superman and Suicide Squad) probably had a combined budget of just over 500 million dollars and, looking at all the cutting room floor footage, that's about 7+ hours of movie right there. Instead of spending a whopping 500+ million on 2 back-to-back movies, why not cut that down to a reasonable $150-200 million and get a series made? A Batman series wouldn't require a plethora of action scenes like a Superman series would because audiences will immediately want more down-time with these characters (scenes that they would be afraid of doing in a big-budget movie because they'd be too "boring"). I'd love to see Fincher re-team with Affleck and Leto on a television series instead of another movie (although I would love seeing a Batman from Fincher, I'd be worried about the studios pulling another Alien 3 on him).
Utopian8418
Utopian8418 - 9/8/2016, 5:30 PM
@thejon93rd - You make good points, I hope you are right and WB does this
jakmanuk
jakmanuk - 9/10/2016, 3:22 PM
@thejon93rd - While I'm not sure how much he was involved in it, I think David Fincher was a big part of why House of Cards got made, and he tried to make a TV show called Utopia (Based on a UK show of the same name) for HBO. So he's definitely not opposed to making a TV show with either HBO or Netflix
thejon93rd
thejon93rd - 9/10/2016, 7:29 PM
@jakmanuk - He was and he directed the first two episodes as well. David Fincher knows television in-and-out at this point, so giving him the rights to make a Batman live-action series with Ben Affleck in the lead role is definitely an easy sell; even if he only directs the pilot episode, he'd set a great example for other directors to build upon (imagine Alejandro Jodorowsky or George Miller-directed episodes, for instance, it'd be so much better on filmmakers' schedules and they'd all, presumably, want to make an episode of The Dark Knight at some point).
PrinceAwesome
PrinceAwesome - 9/8/2016, 5:33 PM
Nahh man

You got it all wrong

This show would not be in the continuity of the DCEU if it would get made

I think it would be better if they established they're Golden Age versions of the heroes on HBO so they can be all brought up in the big screen once Crisis (or whatever big DCEU finale) becomes.

I mean

I think a Superman TV Show that is set in the 1938, being shot, HBO style, taking inspirations from the early Golden Age Action Comics Stories, would be a good place to start. Kinda like Luke Cage, but in the war years.

Dealing with crooks, gang mobs, corrupt businesses, foreign wars, politicians of malfeasance, or simple social issues. It could be periodical too, kinda like what First Class or Watchmen did by integrating history with the actual source/story.

Then as the seasons go on, you can show Superman dealing with these social issues and historical events, ya know, poverty, racism, gambling, corruption within businesses and politics, etc.

Hell, maybe you can even go WW2 on it & introduce the Justice Society on the spot on later seasons (maybe as Guests, perhaps bring in a special ep where Batman/Superman meet up and respect each others' efforts in protecting the world instead of... ya know, fighting for no reason).

Then you can establish Earth 2

And bring them all in

For Crisis on Infinite Earths

Also,

You can maybe have that show produce a social commentary in how we have lost the American way, ya know, the way how policemen have been acting recently, how all these terrorist/foreign threats or wars should stop inducing America into combat, or how pharmaceuticals have been raising their prices vastly to provide for the working man that barely has enough any capital to make a living, or how rigged the elections have been this year (ya know, Trump vs Clinton, really? This election couldn't have spelled corrupt much more clearer)

imo

This has been in my mind for quite a while

And its possible too, cus HBO is aligned with WB

I might make a much more intricate article on this later on..
thejon93rd
thejon93rd - 9/8/2016, 6:15 PM
@PrinceAwesome - Go for it, my friend. I'd love to hear/read your extended take on this topic because the fans of these particular DC characters will always have their grand vision for what they want to see done. Personally, I absolutely love the idea of a Superman existing around the time-frame in which he was created (in the 1930s) because it makes more sense why people wouldn't know who he was. That's why I enjoyed how Man of Steel took away that element of Lois Lane being clueless as to who Superman is, I found that part of the film to be extremely refreshing and a well-done modern take on old concepts. I always envisioned a Flash movie/series working really in a period setting because of his (mostly) cheesy rogues gallery.

I think WB/DC would do well with embracing the past with more of their adaptations. Having everything be so modern and gritty now (even with Marvel, to a certain extent) is kind of exhausting as a general fan of comic-books. My favourite Batman movies have all been animated (The Dark Knight Returns, both parts, and Batman: Mask of the Phantasm), my favourite comic-book shows have mostly been animated (from the hugely-underrated Spectacular Spider-Man to the classic Batman: The Animated Series, with Daredevil being the sole live-action television series that I've been able to invest in; as it's the closest we've come to getting a live-action Batman series).

It'd be absolutely wonderful to see a studio like WB adapt the DC comics to TV. Instead of having the same actor play Batman, and so on, and so forth, maybe make a series which allows the actors to switch up the roles time-and-time-again. There's always been that one actor that we wish(ed) had the chance to play Batman, but it's such an iconic role, and the movies take so long to be released, that we may never see these dreams become reality... unless through television.

After watching a show like Sherlock, I always wondered what Benedict Cumberbatch would be like as Batman. His voice is just so deep and haunting that I always thought he'd be marvelous as The Caped Crusader. With a serialized TV series, featuring a varying budget throughout the episodes (as the studio would obviously have to spend their money wisely on beefing up the climatic episodes in such a series), this could allow filmmakers to explore concepts with superheroes that have never been uncovered in live-action. Something I always wanted to see was a Superman/Krypto (the dog) movie, but WB clearly doesn't want to do such a risky thing because they're so caught up with the gritty that they seem to forget that people have actual emotions and would like to see these fictitious superheroes appear more human by having connections with characters who aren't just damsels in distress, obnoxious bosses, preachy acquaintances or psychotic villains.

Why can't we have a series that allows us to see our favourite superheroes/villains just exist as they normally would? Without hefty conflict or end of the world stakes, we could finally get a sense of what brilliant filmmakers envision life as a superhero/villain being like. That's what I loved about Batman: The Animated Series because we got to see what it'd be like if The Penguin gave up his criminal ways, we got to see what it'd be like if Bruce's parents never died, we got to see what it'd be like to just sit down at a poker table and just chill out with the villains for a while. Why haven't we gotten this kind of thing in live-action form? Because it's a risk. No matter how slim they could have the budget be for such simple (yet compelling) premises, it's always gonna be a risk in their eyes... until they just say "DO IT".
kong
kong - 9/9/2016, 2:02 PM
@PrinceAwesome - This is an amazing idea. This NEEDS to happen.
SteveBosell
SteveBosell - 9/8/2016, 9:10 PM
HBO is overrated as is Game of Thrones, the glorified s&m porno with fantasy elements.
kong
kong - 9/9/2016, 2:01 PM
Do you honestly think Ben Affleck would sign more ignorant his life away playing Batman on a TV show as well as movies? He isn't Robert Downjey Jr. He didn't enter this universe at a low point. He came in at a high point. Ben Affleck doesn't need the DCEU, the DCEU needs Affleck.

Now a HBO series set in the DCEU could be great. A show about other corners of Batmans world, or the DCEU in general, could be good. However, a whole show is not only unrealistic but isn't a great idea either. Who goes to see a 2 hour movie when they can watch 8, 10, 13, or 22 hours of the same thing?

Things that would work are like the Question, Birds of Prey, Titans, or something taking place in the Supernatural realm of the DCEU. Maybe even a JSA show more in the vain of Watchmen.
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