Major SPOILERS For JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Have Surfaced Courtesy Of Today's Reviews

Major SPOILERS For JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX Have Surfaced Courtesy Of Today's Reviews

The review embargo lifted for Joker: Folie à Deux earlier today and some critics have proven to be more than willing to drop major story spoilers for the upcoming DC sequel in their verdicts. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Sep 04, 2024 03:09 PM EST
Filed Under: Joker

If you've ever read a review published by one of the Hollywood trades, you'll be all too aware that they don't exactly respect spoiler etiquette. In fairness, with the embargo lifting for Joker: Folie à Deux a month before the sequel arrives in theaters, spoilers leaking online may have been inevitable! 

In The Wrap's review, we learn that the sequel takes place two years after the events of Joker, leaving Arthur Fleck "awaiting his competency hearing."

The piece adds, "If Arthur’s found sane his trial will commence, and the death penalty is on the table, so his lawyer Maryanne Stewart (Catherine Keener) tries to prove it wasn’t Arthur who killed all those people - it was a separate personality who calls himself 'Joker.' But even Arthur doesn’t seem so sure."

"All he knows is that there’s another inmate, Lee Quinzel (Lady Gaga), who loves Joker very much. She even saw a TV movie they made about Arthur, a whole bunch of times."

So, nothing too major there but Variety takes it a step further by laying out what they call "the entire plot."

"Arthur is wasting away in Arkham State Hospital. He meets Lee, who devotes herself to him. He goes on trial, and the is-he-a-dual-personality-or-just-a-criminal debate unfolds. A verdict is reached. A fateful bomb explodes. The end."

Finally, The Hollywood Reporter elaborates on that latter point by revealing, "[It's] difficult to imagine hard-core Batman universe aficionados being thrilled by a movie that - OK, this is definitely a spoiler - would seem to wipe out an entire future for a key nemesis enshrined in comic-book mythology, rendering him a sad, broken man."

Reading between the lines, it appears Joker and Lee set off a bomb during Arthur's trial, resulting in the former dying before he can ever become the Clown Prince of Crime (that or ensuring he's somehow left to rot in Arkham Asylum, unable to leave or escape...perhaps he even gets the death penalty). 

We believe Lee makes it out alive, though, as several other reviews talk about Lady Gaga potentially leading her own spin-off somewhere down the line. Ultimately, it seems Todd Phillips may have set out to make sure Joker was punished for his past actions, perhaps in a bid to shrug off claims the first movie was meant to glorify people like Arthur.

We're not sure how happy Warner Bros. will be with spoilers like this doing the rounds, though given how many people watched the movie in Venice today, brace yourselves for a full-blown plot leak soon enough.

Joker: Folie À Deux arrives in theaters on October 4.

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SATW42
SATW42 - 9/4/2024, 3:48 PM
woof
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/4/2024, 3:50 PM
@SATW42 - meow
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 9/4/2024, 3:51 PM
@HashTagSwagg - pikachu
TheRedLeader
TheRedLeader - 9/4/2024, 4:56 PM
@harryba11zack - I am Groot?
Scarilian
Scarilian - 9/4/2024, 3:50 PM
I'd expect that she kills him. She becomes obsessed with him, highlights the idea of people becoming obsessed with celebrities to the point of wanting to be them, so she'd kill him to take his place.
DrDReturns
DrDReturns - 9/4/2024, 3:54 PM
@Scarilian - I haven't really been following this film, say through production and spoilers etc, but I always had this feeling that this Harley Quinn was drawn more to the celebrity that is Joker and the fame that would accompany it. She was never in love with him, let alone Arthur.

Just a theory I had before.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/4/2024, 3:57 PM
@Scarilian - I was under the impression that this Harley would just be another imagined girlfriend like that hairy armpit chick from Deadpool 2 was.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 9/4/2024, 4:57 PM
@HashTagSwagg - I didn't see a hairy armpit in that movie.
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/4/2024, 6:55 PM
@dagenspear - Ask and you shall receive
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dagenspear
dagenspear - 9/4/2024, 7:19 PM
@HashTagSwagg - That's not from the Joker movie. Maybe she did have it there, but we didn't see it, as far as I remember. That's more what I'm saying.
Gabimaru
Gabimaru - 9/5/2024, 12:54 AM
@HashTagSwagg - i was like wtf is that
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/5/2024, 1:09 AM
@Gabimaru - "Empowerment"....... somehow
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 9/5/2024, 1:10 AM
@Gabimaru -
Scarilian
Scarilian - 9/7/2024, 4:22 PM
@DrDReturns -
Yeah, that's definitely the vibe from the trailers also - seeing him on TV screens before their meeting. Knowing instantly who he is and then effectively shown copying everything he does.

With Arthur now facing the death penalty, having the last 'joke' be that someone he inspired as 'Joker' killed him would fit the tone the movies are going to. It also adds a layer of tragedy and it puts a finalized end on the film series given that James Gunn won't want Joker 2 running alongside the future of his universe which is likely to be more child-friendly.
NonPlayerC
NonPlayerC - 9/4/2024, 3:53 PM
Mmmwwwaahaaahaaaa excellent
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 9/4/2024, 3:53 PM
5 comments? There is no 5 comments im first....fix your site bro.
theprophet
theprophet - 9/4/2024, 4:00 PM
Mehh
Dotanuki
Dotanuki - 9/4/2024, 4:04 PM
It should be “the former” dying
THEDARKKNIGHT1939
THEDARKKNIGHT1939 - 9/4/2024, 4:04 PM
AI Joker 2 > The actual thing

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Forthas
Forthas - 9/4/2024, 4:06 PM
This might be a pass or a matinee.
HeraldNumber7
HeraldNumber7 - 9/4/2024, 4:15 PM
i'm suspecting a huge upset with this movie.

- it's a "musical".

- Fleck doesn't become "The Joker" the audience is familiar with.

- Todd Phillips' complete obliviousness to why the first was successful doesn't imbue me with confidence he has captured that energy for a 2nd time.

it'll be #1 tho, until Beetljuice or Venom dethrones it
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/4/2024, 4:42 PM
Huh…

The legal strategy by Arthur’s lawyer is interesting and makes sense but I wonder if it may feel like pointless or dragging from a story perspective since we know he did his crimes of his own volition

Anyway , we’ll see but idk why anyone is surprised that the ending is apparently definitive when Phillips himself has said he wanted to be a standalone take on the character and that his version of the Joker would never become the Clown Prince of Crime.

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DOOMSPEAKS
DOOMSPEAKS - 9/4/2024, 5:53 PM
As an elseworld story, I really could care less how this ends. I never took the first movie as the definitive Joker tale and that’s why I enjoyed it. If he dies, cool. If he doesn’t, cool. I just want it to be good is all. I’m here for it and it comes out on my birthday so I’ll be there at 7pm with my Harley popcorn bucket.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 9/4/2024, 5:55 PM
smh it sounds like a bad student film. How do we end it? Oh just blow the main character away because we're creatively empty.
MisterDoctor217
MisterDoctor217 - 9/4/2024, 7:14 PM
I’m all for Elseworlds and What If stories. They can be fun and intriguing, to see established characters take different paths. But in these stories they usually preserve their core traits and personality, you can still see it’s the same person but under different conditions and circumstances.


This Joker thing , again , is just in name only. They took the IP to basically explore a story about a guy with mental illness.

But this is NOT the Joker.
I don’t understand how fans can be happy about that, specially Batman fans.

Todd Phillips basically just wanted funding for his project and slapped the Joker name on it so he could sell it to an audience.

Reeds2Much
Reeds2Much - 9/4/2024, 7:30 PM
"who loves Joker very much. She even saw a TV movie they made about Arthur, a whole bunch of times."

So ... she's John Hinckley?
TheVisionary25
TheVisionary25 - 9/4/2024, 8:19 PM
@Reeds2Much - or a Manson Girl
Batmangina
Batmangina - 9/4/2024, 8:58 PM
THIS.

WILL.

FAIL.

McMurdo
McMurdo - 9/5/2024, 12:46 AM
Sounds like he doesn't die but is left a cripple by the explosion.
DemonTweeks
DemonTweeks - 9/6/2024, 6:00 AM
im the only person on the planet that thought the first one was massively over rated it seems.
Scarilian
Scarilian - 9/7/2024, 4:24 PM
@DemonTweeks -
It was over-rated. It has a lot of good concepts, but the pacing is poor and it's effectively a story of an individual with severe issues trying to live in a broken society. The DC elements of the movie are the weakest parts.

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