Let us shine a light.

Let us shine a light.

These are the facts and the villains of Batman 3.

Editorial Opinion
By XxBLACKMASKxX - Nov 24, 2010 05:11 PM EST
Filed Under: The Dark Knight Rises



Something keeps bothering me, and that is Batman 3. I am a supporter of Hush and Black Mask, but know that I look at facts, I have doubts. I now have the top two villians for Batman 3.
1.Hugo Strange
2.Catwoman
Batman will obviously be having problems with stress since he is constantly being chased by the police. So he will enter therapy and hire Hugo Strange to help him. Many people don't realize that Hugo is a physical threat, he tries to mimic Batman every way possible. Bruce will need a love interest, especially after Rachel's death. Someone that doesn't mind if he has a mask, which is something Rachel was against.
These things I look at scream these villains. Of course, I love villains like Black Mask, Hush, and Deadshot. These hopes are slipping away. As many of you read this you may think this is stupid. These are valid facts that lead to these villains. Not many villains are left to be picked, and clues lead to things, and such things are these villains.
Now that I have put a spotlight on the subject I hope you will join me in these beliefs. Of course, some of you will stick to characters that would be random and mean nothing to the storyline. These are my facts and beliefs.

Thanks and please comment.
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BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/24/2010, 5:56 PM
Rachel wasn't against Batman, she was for it, Alfred specifically noted "She believed in what you do, what we do." So i won't buy that she was against Bruce being Batman
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 5:58 PM
@robert garlen
she would not go out with him until Bruce no longer needed Batman.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 5:59 PM
@intruder
FACT:BRUCE IS BEING CHASED BY POLICE.....
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:01 PM
@intruder
why so SERIOUS?
Ibz
Ibz - 11/24/2010, 6:07 PM
so what if he's been chased by the police, if he was going to go to strange for therapy then it would be over the fact that he still feels guilty about rachels death and the love interest could easily and would make more sense be talia, i am not saying theres anything wrong with what your saying its possible, but i doubt bruce wayne would get therapy because he's stressed about being chased by the police, its probably going to be due to rachels death and losing harvey to joker
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:08 PM
@Robert Garlen
She was for Batman but she didn't want to be with Bruce while he was Batman.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:10 PM
@Ibz
I see no other villians CLEARLY fitting into the stroyline at this time.
MY PERSONAL PICKS ARE
1.Hush
2.Black Mask
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/24/2010, 6:11 PM
@XxBLACKMASKxX Just because she wouldn't date him because of Batman means she wasn't in support of it. She refused to go out with him because he was more Batman and not Bruce. Bruce had Changed and that's why she wouldn't date him, she would've dated Batman not Bruce. She had to wait until the city no longer needed Batman but in her time waiting she slowly realized that what was left of Bruce was only there because of Batman and that Bruce will always need Batman and it's unfair to make her live with that on her, which is why she was going to marry Harvey, ya'know before she got turned into a ball a' fire.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:11 PM
@intruder
No need to trash talk....
I just don't think any other villian would clearly fit into the storyline.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:16 PM
@Robert Garlen
Yes and Catwoman WANTS BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ibz
Ibz - 11/24/2010, 6:16 PM
@Blackmask i am not saying that they dont fit in to the bloody storyline am i, i am saying your theory about batman being "stressed" about the police and then turning to therapy makes no sense he would more likely turn to therapy because of rachels death

and talia fits in perfectly and much more easily then catwoman,
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/24/2010, 6:18 PM
So are you agreeing that Rachel was in favor of Batman? and yeah Catwoman wants Batman, but that's not the reason she should be on this list listed as a fact, it should be because if a couple interviews it is said that Nolan has Expressed Interest in Catwoman, and also Black Mask because Nolan cited that the villain would be one that hasn't been in a live action medium, and Goyer has claimed stated he would like to do a film with Black Mask, not to mention the prisoner's tattoo in The Dark Knight, and the Cat Reference early in the film.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:20 PM
@Ibz
argreed...But whatever reason I believe he is going to therapy.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 6:21 PM
@robet garlen
this is true.
but i'm just going of recent rumors and how its looking now. HECK I WANT BLACK MASK AND HUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
marvelguy
marvelguy - 11/24/2010, 6:31 PM
I don't see any facts either. I haven't heard that a script is finished which signals that no one knows who is in the movie. Bale hasn't even been given a script yet.

Sorry to be critical. You need a lot more to draw these extraneous conclusions.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/24/2010, 6:55 PM
@XxBLACKMASKxX i agree i would like to see Hush and Black Mask, Blask Mask seems likely because there's clues to it, i didn't notice any clues pointing to Hugo Strange. If you notice in Batman Begins their are clues to Two-Face and Joker. In the Dark Knight there's as you know the black mask clues and the catwoman clues. so it's likely to be a cat and mask, but i do imagine some redesign of his mask to the old style where it's a simple black mask not a skull due to the Red Skull in Captain America. So we might get original Black Mask look.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/24/2010, 6:59 PM
@ Intruder what were the Riddler clues that appeared in the actual film (I'm inclined to believe promotional items such as viral marketing do not count)? Black Mask Clue, The Prisoner on the Boat had a Black Mask tattoo on his neck, couple others did too i think, Lucius joked with Bruce "Should be fine against cats." which to me mirrors the "All you Two Faced phonies" line from Begins.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 7:01 PM
@robert Garlen
Wheres the mask in the movie, I would like to go back and see it, guess I missed it.
THANKS!
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 7:02 PM
@Intruder
Again please stop.
there is no need for trash talk.
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/24/2010, 7:34 PM
@XxBLACKMASKxX Look for the Prisoner who throws the detonator out the window look for the right side of his neck, he has a large black tattoo that is said to be a black mask tattoo, I'm guessing they mean symbol, But about those riddler clues what are they and where are they in the actual film?
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 8:40 PM
@intruder
Nolan said there is no RIDDLER so whats the point.
Knightstalker
Knightstalker - 11/24/2010, 8:43 PM
Bruce Wayne in therapy? Shades of "Batman Forever". I sincerely doubt it. Sorry xxBLACKMASKxx, you're talking out your arse.
nightmarket
nightmarket - 11/24/2010, 8:53 PM
Maybe Bruce Wayne's therapist will be Harley Quinn, and after she becomes his girlfriend, she'll break his heart and leave him for the Joker! (hehe, just kidding)

I figured the Riddler wouldn't be in this movie. I assumed Mr. Reese was the Riddler and Nolan would leave it at that, which would fall in line with the Joker's prophecy that he's not a monster, just ahead of the times. So the Joker was a super villain the whole way through, Harvey became one half-way through, and Mr. Reese never became one... but his perhaps his transformation is implied, to happen "off-screen", after the movie finished. Although how can they continue the series without Mr. Reese? Now that Batman is being hunted by the cops, isn't Reese by law obligated to give up the goods on Batman? (I honestly don't know if he would be or not, I don't know much about law.)
CuteAsian
CuteAsian - 11/24/2010, 9:26 PM
yea this article is full of shit.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/24/2010, 9:45 PM
@userflak
No need to trash talk.
If you do FRIKIN leave the site....
Just letting people get to know how the characters would fit in.
If your an ARTICLE PRODIGY...FRIKIN write something good!
Organa1978
Organa1978 - 11/25/2010, 4:47 AM
"if a couple interviews it is said that Nolan has Expressed Interest in Catwoman"


Where Nolan said that,@Robert Garlen?
He never expressed interest in Catwoman!

golden123
golden123 - 11/25/2010, 6:53 AM
I LOVE the idea of Hugo Strange as the Batman 3 villain but when I read "[Bruce] will enter therapy and hire Hugo Strange" I made a weird WTF face. Don't you think Bruce/Batman wouldn't risk something like that given the cicumstances? just sayin
oh and you said "not many villains are left to be picked". you do know Batman probably has THE largest rogues gallery of all the super heroes (both DC and Marvel and any other company you can think of). There are plenty to choose from it's just that people have favorites and characters like Black Mask and Catwoman are crowd favorites and more common villains in the comics therefor fans have more exposure to them so the fans would choose them to be in the film adaption. Did that make sense.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/25/2010, 7:27 AM
@golden123
Not many villians are realistsic, that drops a crap load. Next, Nolan has picked off villians.
It leaves a few,but.....you know.
XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/25/2010, 9:08 AM
why was the picture removed
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/25/2010, 11:44 AM
@Balegirlbrazil, yes he did, i honestly can't remember the interview but it was a while back around begins i think and he said something to the affect of "Catwoman would be interesting" lol i just think you don't want another girl on Bale besides your self lol
Organa1978
Organa1978 - 11/25/2010, 2:30 PM
@Robert Garlen

No,it´s no that...I just don´t want Catwoman.
She is a shitty character and I hate her!
Catwoman is the only character I don´t want to see in the movie...I prefer even Robin than her.
I rather to see Talia...she makes much more sense than Catwoman,and is new.
If it´s Catwoman I will boycott the movie.
I hope Nolan keep her far away from TDKR.
Catwoman sucks!!!
BobGarlen
BobGarlen - 11/25/2010, 4:14 PM
@Balegirlbrazil, i personally like catwoman as she is in the comics. and who better to make her a likable character than Nolan?
golden123
golden123 - 11/25/2010, 4:14 PM
@XxBLACKMASKxX: Realistic? Define realistic because I would say most of his villains are realistic except for a select few. Look at the villains Nolan has chosen Ra's al ghul was immortal in the comics he made that work, anybody could argue that fear gas isn't realistic, and Look at the Jokers origin in the comics bleached skin and green hair nolan changed that. I think most villains can be done realistically without destroying the character. In Batmans Rouges galery its the cheesy villains from the 60's that you should fear not the realilisticality.
Organa1978
Organa1978 - 11/25/2010, 5:01 PM
@Robert Galen

But the people say as if Catwoman was the only one female character who deserves to be in the movie... and I completely desagree.
There are other interesting characters that deserves to be explored in a bat-movie.
Why has to be Catwoman?
She already was done before,why not innovate a little sometimes?
Talia deserves to be in the movie more than any other female character,because she was very important in Bruce/Batman´s life.
She is the mother of his son! The only known son of Bruce Wayne.
And by the fact that her father was in Begins,the right time to introduce her is now!
If Talia does not to appear in TDKR,probably never will.
Catwoman should be subject for a fourth movie.
They can use her in more than 1 movie if they want.
That horrible 2004 movie is still fresh in the people´s memory,it´s early to introduce her now,in the last chapter of the trilogy.
TDKR is the end of the Nolan´s series and no one better than Talia Al Ghul...to complete the story arc.
I hope they don´t use Catwoman now...it´s better.



XxBLACKMASKxX
XxBLACKMASKxX - 11/25/2010, 5:38 PM
@GOLDEN123
I GET YOUR POINT.
But throwing in villians like umm....say Blockbuster are a bit off.
FutureCBMHero
FutureCBMHero - 11/25/2010, 7:44 PM
Weak "Facts".

Why is Bruce on the run? The police are chasing him, but the reality is Bruce can hide in plain sight. And given the fall of the mob in the TDK, Batman probably has a lot less work to do. The cops can put more attention to regular crimes, and it's likely that Gordon will be able to assign the police force to keep the streets safe and clean, and thus divert stress from Batman. And since Gordon will be in control of the Batman task force, he can also mislead them, put ineffective cops, or perform any kind of sabotage to allow Batman to do work.

Bruce/Batman really should be sitting pretty at the beginning of this film.

Now those aren't facts, but I would bet they are closer to the truth given what we know from the previous film.

Now him being beat up over Rachel and Harvey, that could be interesting to see how he deals with that through this movie.
FutureCBMHero
FutureCBMHero - 11/25/2010, 8:08 PM
Reese must be addressed somehow though, I am glad someone brought that up.

It could be something as simple as Lucius getting all the paper work and computer files that Reese had.
agentend
agentend - 11/25/2010, 10:49 PM
I like all your ideas, but I will settle this. The title of the third film is Dawn of the Bat. It will feature the Riddler and Catwoman as the two main villians, with references to the Black Mask and the Penguin for a set-up to a fourth film. The Riddler is going to carry over into the fourth, Catwoman is not. Bale and Nolan are going to do a fourth film.
nightmarket
nightmarket - 11/26/2010, 1:12 AM
That would be a good way to wrap up the Reese storyline... but still, the problem is that you can't un-ring a bell, and since Reese already said he knows who Batman is, the police might want to know who he suspects anyway and then figure it would make sense that it was Wayne. On another note, while we're on the subject of the Dark Knight's subtle hints (Mr. Reese = mysteries, Fox's remark indicating Catwoman, the Joker wearing Dent's name on the nurse's outfit foreshadowing he means to kill Harvey by directing him down the path of evil), let me thrown out another one. You might think I'm crazy, and I agree this is far-fetched, but here goes:

A lot of people criticized the Dark Knight by saying, Why can't anyone figure out Bruce Wayne is Batman? After all, Batman must have a lot of money, he chose to rescue Rachel twice when the Joker gave him the ultimatum, he was at Dent's press conference, and so on. My question is, I wonder if Gordon himself doesn't know Bruce Wayne is Batman? The reason I bring it up is the scene where Bruce Wayne rescues Reese, and Gordon says to him, "Mr. Wayne, isn't it? Well, that was a really brave thing you just did." I couldn't help but notice Gordon says it in an interrogating way, as if accusing Wayne of being "a hero." After getting the anonymous cell phone message, Gordon probably figured it was from Batman trying to save Reese. And when Wayne says he was trying to make the light, Gordon say, "You mean you weren't protecting the van?" I thought it was a funny question to ask if he wasn't at least suspicious of Wayne's true identity. He also asks it a bit incredulously, the way cops in movies might say "I'm on to you" to suspects without voicing their suspicions out loud. Then he follows up by saying, "You don't watch a whole lot of news," as if deciding to go along with it.

That's kind of an obscure one, I know, lol.
nightmarket
nightmarket - 11/26/2010, 1:26 AM
balegirlbrazil-- I'm curious, what is it about Catwoman that you don't like in specific? Do you mean you just don't like the way she's been portrayed in the previous movies?
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