Batman Vs. Superman: Don't Worry Guys, This Will Still Be about Superman

Batman Vs. Superman: Don't Worry Guys, This Will Still Be about Superman

*Twiddles fingers* It's all a part of the plan, people.

Editorial Opinion
By KyleG - Apr 25, 2014 09:04 AM EST
Filed Under: Batman vs. Superman
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Let me just start off by saying I know nothing more about this film than you guys do and have no insider information. I do, however, have complete faith that this film is not going to be the cluttered mess that a lot of people seem to be thinking it will be. I firmly believe that there is a very clear strategy that WB/DC is using here they are simply just not putting their cards on the table ala Marvel Studios.

When Batman was announced, people freaked out. "How can this be a Man of Steel sequel with Batman in it?!" When Wonder Woman was announced, people freaked out. "How can this be a Batman/Superman movie with Wonder Woman in it?!" Now we have Victor Stone aka Cyborg (aka Black Iron Man) in the film and people are once again freaking out and using the "too many characters" rhetoric. Relax, guys, trust me, this movie knows what it’s doing.

I'll be honest, though, I initially was skeptical as to what exactly WB was planning with this film when they announced Batman and Wonder Woman. I will state this upfront, I am a fan of Man of Steel. In fact, that movie took my breath away. I was very much looking forward to a sequel and seeing more of Henry Cavill's Clark Kent character being further developed. Then when Batman was announced at comic con. My initial reaction was "Huh. Well, I didn't expect that. How will this work?" However, shortly after that skepticism turned to pure, adolescent excitement where I gave in to the notion that it's freaking BATMAN AND SUPERMAN together for the first time in cinematic history. And with Snyder behind the camera, you just know we are going to get a battle of epic proportions between the two legendary icons.

Warner knows what they are doing. They are fully aware that Batman + Superman= $$$. This movie will basically market itself. Just imagine the posters, the billboards, the trailers showing Batman and Superman about to face off. This is going to be a cinematic event for the record books.

Therefore, with all that in mind, WB/DC need to capitalize on it. Sure they could have kept this movie solely about Supes and Bats but they would be missing out on an opportunity to open the DC universe. By introducing characters like Wonder Woman and Victor Stone, they are giving those characters a legitimate shot at mass exposure. If the crowd comes out of it saying “Man, Gal Gadot really stole the show in this!” Guess what? We’ll be getting a Wonder Woman film soon after with Lucy Lawless as Hippolyta, Nathan Fillion as Steve Trevor and Idris Elba as Ares (probably).

It’s essentially the same strategy that the Arrow tv show is using. Producers Greg Berlanti and Marc Guggenheim are blatantly using that show as a baseline to introduce a plethora of DC characters to further enrich their world. And you know what, its working. Very damn well. I mean we’re getting a Flash tv show because of this. And you can only imagine what other DC characters the Flash show will introduce (I’m looking at you, Hal Jordan).

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It’s all about exposure, guys. Not too long ago, WB was chastised for not doing anything with the rich DC Universe that they have at their disposal. Now, after all this time they are making serious moves. Arrow is going strong, the Flash is coming, the Gotham show is coming and we have a big event movie coming in 2016 introducing the three most well-known superheroes in the world. The future is very very bright for live action DC. Just because they are not following Marvel’s method of slowly building characters over time doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it right. And for the record, I’ll bet a pretty penny Victor Stone will be in BvS for a total of five minutes. They just want to get audiences familiar with the character before he inevitably appears in his robotic form in Justice League.

At the end of the day however this will still be Henry Cavill’s vehicle. Superman is the heart and soul of the DC universe and I am positive that despite Affleck and Gadot’s presence the story will focus on Clark and his continued growth throughout the DC universe. In my opinion, what better way to really test Superman’s mettle than to pit him against two of DC’s biggest icons?

This not meant to be a condescending article, I would just like everyone to take a breath and enjoy the fact that WB is finally giving us what we want: a live action DC universe and they’re doing their best to make sure that their characters are getting a fair shot at exposure. Despite what you may have felt about Man of Steel, you can bet that BvS will be a massive comic book movie event that will give the Avengers a run for its money. The movie is still two years out so Warner is not going to put their cards on the table yet but soon, I guarantee you, all will be revealed and you guys can sleep peacefully at night again in reassurance.

Peace, love and BOOYAH!

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Klone
Klone - 4/25/2014, 10:10 AM
MoS barely explored the character outside of how he likes to save people.
Moohika
Moohika - 4/25/2014, 10:40 AM
You know what's funny? When Calvan Murray, Holly Hunter and Tao were cast as "newly created characters", people were complaining about how they should've been characters from the comics instead and yet when a character who is from the DCU, Victor Stone is cast, those same people start freaking out.
KyleG
KyleG - 4/25/2014, 10:51 AM
I think people are just getting anxious because of the complete radio silence from WB about this project and no one knows what to think about this project.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 4/25/2014, 10:59 AM
@ MAK

I guess Supes saving his classmates on the buss, saving his mom, saving Lois, saving the oil workers, saving some solders, saving a family from being burnt to a crisp, and finally saving the whole world was not touching on Supes wanting or liking to save people!!!!!!!
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 4/25/2014, 11:00 AM
@ Gusto

The only way this would be about you if it was about Depends and an enlarge prostate.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 4/25/2014, 11:01 AM
Also this is a good write up, I personally think it will be Superman who is the vehicle to bring the JL together and that will be the focus of the movie.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/25/2014, 11:03 AM
I would rather Martian Manhunter be in it.
Klone
Klone - 4/25/2014, 11:06 AM
@JoeMomma

*facepalm*

You read my comment wrong. I said they didn't explore or touch on much outside of Clark liking to save people. I never said they didn't explore or touch up on that aspect of Clark's character. However, whilst on the surface it's fine, the lack of development or motivation as to why he likes to save people does not make it a remotely compelling character whereas it has been before.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 4/25/2014, 11:09 AM
@ MAK

Awwwww my highest apologies your are right I was quick to read and judge your comment. Again I apologize.
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 4/25/2014, 11:14 AM
@ MAK

I agree with your comment to an extent, they did touch on his childhood and teenage years through flashbacks. Granted the film is far from perfect but it also far from being trash imo.
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 4/25/2014, 11:15 AM
I'm just waiting for Zatanna to be announced.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 4/25/2014, 11:18 AM
Victor Stone Cyborg is in it?
haven't heard of it, must have missed it or something.

But yeah too anyone that complains or whines about too many characters, look at Lord of The Rings.
Klone
Klone - 4/25/2014, 11:20 AM
@JoeMomma

The problem with the flashbacks in my opinion is that they were trying to emulate Batman Begins but unlike Batman Begins which had the flashbacks in chronological order, they related to themes of the present storyline and helped to create a cohesive narrative to watch Bruce's character grown and it shows how the events of his past helped shape him as a character and how it created Batman.

The MoS flashbacks do not relate to the themes of the present storyline (well... themes that aren't even there) nor do they explain why Clark is the way he is as a character and how is leads to Superman's creation. The most it does is show why Clark is taking the initiative to hide himself but other than that it does not relate to how Superman came to be or why Clark is the man he is who wants to save people.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 4/25/2014, 11:21 AM
Anyway, if the Story is superman based, i hope they change the title then.

Make it something like
Superman: A New Age
Superman: Public Enemies (depends on story)
Superman: Worlds Finest

I just think Having "vs" in the title is completely STUPID.
BenjiWest
BenjiWest - 4/25/2014, 11:23 AM
I hope they use that villain Slum(?), the one who tried to hypnotize Superman into making a porn with Big Barda...
JoeMomma29
JoeMomma29 - 4/25/2014, 11:29 AM
@ MAK

Well it could have been done better, and I do agree we could have scene some more flashbacks showing how Clark chose to become a hero.
rora
rora - 4/25/2014, 11:37 AM
Thumbs up. I'm glad to see a bit of optimism and positivity out there, that's a nice change...


@Moohika Agreed!
Tainted87
Tainted87 - 4/25/2014, 11:47 AM
One thing I didn't really like about Man of Steel was how the Fortress of Solitude was just a ship, not some natural progression.

To clarify: if I were Superman, I'd get pretty sick of trying to be normal. I wouldn't take shit from stupid people, I wouldn't be driving a car places, I wouldn't wait in line at the ATM while some old lady goes through her checkbook, and I certainly wouldn't be some bus boy/waiter. I'd go up in the sky, fly around, and if I could do that, I'd run real fast, swim real fast and far, whatever - I'd be getting my ass to the North Pole. There, I'd just chill out. No drama, no schedule, no nothing.... I'd just lie back and stare at the sky.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 4/25/2014, 11:54 AM
I'm of the opinion that all the flashbacks helped show how Superman grew up to be the person he is. If people don't consider all those important parts of his past as character development, then I'm not sure what they would call them.
BenjiWest
BenjiWest - 4/25/2014, 12:05 PM
Sleeze!!! His name was Sleeze!
Klone
Klone - 4/25/2014, 12:08 PM
@Corndog

How the hell did they show why Clark grew up to be the man he is? The most they showed was why he made the decision to hide.
GoldSlayer1
GoldSlayer1 - 4/25/2014, 12:20 PM
I just hope DC stays in constant production after BvS. (or w/e it will be called)

This whole thing of doing a movie then waiting FOUR YEARS until the next one comes out is ridiculous. (Im looking at you, Dark Knight trilogy)

Shoot them back to back to back like LOTR and Hobbit did.
kong
kong - 4/25/2014, 12:50 PM
I don't remember it like you do. When they announced BvS people were excited as [frick]. No one questioned if it would still be a MOS Sequel. When Wonder Woman was announced people were two hung up on Gina Carano not being casted. Then people began to think it was crowded when the rest of the justice league was rumored. Now that Ray Fisher has been casted as Vic Stone, I expected hate. I actually looked through the comments and saw a lot more positivity then usual.
MrBatmor
MrBatmor - 4/25/2014, 12:50 PM
i really hope the tv universe is not connected!!
Klone
Klone - 4/25/2014, 1:14 PM
@sofo

The lack of linear order didn't have shit to do with it and I often attack the exposition MoS had. The flashbacks in MoS were no where near as meaningful as they were in BB. Remove them from the film and Clark is the same character. They did no where near as much as BB did to develop the character.
TwistedKingdom
TwistedKingdom - 4/25/2014, 2:10 PM
@MAK

I've always felt the opening 20 minutes on Krypton (all summed up later by Jor-El in the scout ship) could've been spent establishing Clark, Martha & Jonathan. Do you realize Martha & Jonathan only speak to each other once? And it's one line aimed at Clark.
Klone
Klone - 4/26/2014, 3:20 PM
@Sofo

Based on past conversations I know the lack of linear story lost you. It's also not the best thing for younger viewers, but the film doesn't really seem intended for them.

Typical MoS fanboy giving the condescending horseshit. No, it being in chronological order did not confuse me in the slightest and you MoS fans acting like are some master race for liking MoS is infuriating.

About the exposition. We don't hear a peep out of you of TWS' abundant exposition. Exposition is an issue in MOS, because it's a DC movie.

This tiresome accusation again? *sigh* When I first saw MoS I liked it. Ask BatManiac. For as much as he despises me now, I doubt he'd lie over me defending MoS to high hell when it first came out. I began hating on multiple viewings where I began noticing its flaws. This is true for a lot of people here, like SauronsBANE. Anyways, unless a film is so massively horrible, like Revenge of the Fallen, I pick up on flaws with the second viewings and the first time around I merely enjoy and only bother to pick up on the more glaring, gaping flaws.

I have seen TWS ONCE. Not two times, not three times, but ONCE. I'll notice the problems when I see it for a second time, but for now, most of the film has faded from memory. I know people on this site LOVE to live in a little fantasy world where I have some evil, sinister, anti-DC pro-Marvel agenda, but this is nothing more than delusional, paranoid fantasies. So sorry I have to shatter it... AGAIN.

This is a purely subjective argument. That aside, whether or not they're as meaningful is irrelevant in itself. Why would it even have to be as meaningful in the first place?

It's a nice way of me saying they were not meaningful at all and were slapped on there as a means to emulate the BB formula but unlike BB were utterly ineffective.

The present-day character never ceases to be the present-day character if the flashbacks of a movie are removed. We lose insight into the character, but he doesn't cease to exist.

The BB flashbacks create a cohesive, well paced narrative that help us understand why Bruce made these decisions. His parents get killed so he runs off to become train for a bit. That doesn't exactly cut it. Those flashbacks showed the decisions he made that led to Batman, they show we Bruce is the man he is. With Clark... not so much, other than that he likes to save people but without development for this character trait he ceases to be compelling. Oh, and his father being a dick made him hide away I guess, for what little effect or impact that had on Clark's character...

and knowing how you're a negative Nancy with just about anything DC, we know where your opinions will fall.

I give up on you people. I can give plenty of examples where I am positive, but, and this is a fact, people only pay attention to the negativity a person spews. Unless I was being sickeningly, overbearingly positive about something, you people who throw these retarded, borderline insane paranoid, at me would not pay attention. Get it out of your damn head there is nothing sinister accept for me giving my honest opinion every damn time. Ever so sorry I don't look at dogshit like JLW and swallow it up like a religious idiot in the deep south does when their minister claims science is an evil conspiracy out to undermine their God.
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