What Did Anthony Mackie Truly Mean When He Said Cap Shouldn't Represent America?

What Did Anthony Mackie Truly Mean When He Said Cap Shouldn't Represent America?

Anthony Mackie's recent comments about Captain America not representing America have sparked backlash, but did he truly mean what he said?

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By ChandlerMcniel - Jan 28, 2025 06:01 PM EST

This is a tough and sensitive one. 

Right off the bat, I want to make it very clear I am not attempting to offend anyone, make a political stance, or do anything else of the sort. The objective of this article is to explore what Anthony Mackie was truly trying to say whether it be the literal meaning of the words that came out of his mouth or something behind them. I am not attacking or defending Mackie. I am simply analyzing his words and providing speculation.

Let’s review his comments:

Captain America represents a lot of different things, and I don’t think the term ‘America’ should be one of those representations. It’s about a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable. It's kind of like an aspect of a dream come true. All of us as actors want to get back to that day before someone told you 'no.' When you look out your window, and you see a five-year-old kid with a stick, and he's slaying dragons to save the princess in the tower, the kid really believes there are dragons out there, the kid really believes the stick is a sword, and he's really trying to save that princess. And then one day, someone told him, 'No, there are no dragons, that's not a sword, and that princess is not there.' And all of his little dreams were dashed, so as an actor I think our job is to get back to that day where we see that dragon, and we slay that dragon to save that princess and that's kind of what that movie was for me."

These comments have sparked quite a bit of backlash and outrage. Some are defending Mackie, some are attacking him, and some seem to be separating the artist from the art and keeping their excitement for the movie. Some people are calling for boycotts of the movie entirely.

At least at first glance, it is a bit odd to say a character shouldn’t represent something that is in their name. 

The first idea that comes to mind is this: maybe he simply meant Captain America shouldn’t only represent just the country of the United States of America. Captain America can be representative of “...a man who keeps his word, who has honor, dignity and integrity. Someone who is trustworthy and dependable,” as well as the country that man comes from. Playing off that idea, the concepts of honor, dignity, integrity, and keeping one’s word are not exclusively American. Maybe, if Mackie meant that Captain America shouldn’t just represent America, he meant the ideals of Captain America should be applicable to more than just Americans and that he is a character more people around the world can identify with.

Mackie could have said that Captain America shouldn’t represent America, because Cap is frequently portrayed as morally incorruptible, something no country as a whole truly is. Unfortunately, there is no large organization of any kind in the entire world that is truly morally incorruptible as what makes up every organization, human beings, all have the potential to be morally corrupt. Captain America does not let his morals be corrupted save for multiversal variants like Captain Hydra and a few stories here and there. Maybe Mackie meant that Cap is completely incorruptible and, therefore, should not directly represent any country in that way. He could have intended this simply as a statement of fact, it is indeed factual that no country has no corruption whatsoever, or as a criticism.

Thinking about Mackie’s statements after he said Cap shouldn’t represent the term America, he may have meant Cap shouldn’t represent all of America or its history. Just like any place in the world, the United States isn’t one hundred percent full of perfect people. There are problems that the US faces, that, of course, aren’t exclusive to the US, that Mackie may not want represented in the character Captain America. He wouldn’t want the character to represent racism, division, greed, or anything else negative that is present in the US. He could have intended to say that Captain America should represent only the good parts of America.

Of course, he could have meant exactly what he said. Regardless of what he meant, he certainly could have worded it better. Considering he is on a press tour for a movie about Captain America, with a huge percentage of its market being America, and the companies that own the character and funded the movie are American, you’d think he’d be a bit more careful with his words. We’ll likely get a clarifying statement from him soon, so maybe he’ll clear things up.

What do you think of Mackie’s comments? Did he mean well but delivered the message poorly, or is truly trying to separate the character from its namesake? Let me know!

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DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 6:52 PM
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AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/28/2025, 8:10 PM
@DarthOmega - Steve Roger Captain America walked from America in Winter Soldier and Civil War. America called Steve Rogers a traitor.

Steve No longer wanted to be America's Captain America.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 8:23 PM
@AllsGood - User Comment Image
HistoryofMatt
HistoryofMatt - 1/28/2025, 6:54 PM
Pretty much into believing people when they tell you who they are instead of trying to excuse the vile things they say and believe.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 1/28/2025, 9:33 PM
@HistoryofMatt - yep, same
Luigi
Luigi - 1/28/2025, 6:55 PM
Haven't read the comments but I have the feeling the people complaining also complain about America most of the time.
TheWalkingCuban
TheWalkingCuban - 1/28/2025, 9:34 PM
@Luigi - why would that be? In all seriousness, seems like it would be the opposite
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 6:55 PM
When you try to rationalize someone's anti-American rhetoric simply because you want to try to salvage their reputation.....
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 6:58 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Let it all fail. Years ago I sat in the theater with people of all races ages men and women boys and girls. We all cheered when something amazing happened. We all laughed when something funny happened. We all gasped when something surprising happened.

But they had to go and throw divisive politics into everything and then call us names for not loving it. This movie will bomb. I wish that wasn't the case but I think it will.

They couldn't leave well enough alone. Making everything hyper political is a mistake. Sam Wilson as cap failed in the comics, the show failed, and this movie will too.
ChandlerMcniel
ChandlerMcniel - 1/28/2025, 6:59 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - I do not care about Mackie's reputation at all. Like I said in the first paragraph, I'm just analyzing.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 7:18 PM
@DarthOmega - Correct Captain African American was a failure in the comics as well. I believe it only lasted like 12 issues.

The Bucky as Cap run was tremendous and initially that was the plan for Bucky in the MCU.
I remember Sebastian Stan accidentally leaking that during some comic seminar.

But then Permutter was removed and Feige The King of Woke was given free reign and no longer had to go through the creative committee.
That is when the pandering began and killed the MCU.



Start at 3:13 if it doesn't link to that spot.
This was 8 years ago....

But apparently he hinted at it again recently.


DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 7:27 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - I honestly don't want Bucky or John Walker to be Cap. Cap in my opinion is Steve Rogers. The Falcon is Sam Wilson. Ironman is Tony Stark. I'm not, nor have I ever been on board with the whole mantle thing, but I don't own the rights to any of these characters so it is what it is.

A side note: It seems people want to paint us as blind Star spangled sycophants who don't recognize the great stains this nation has. I do. I know how much dirt we have done to many a nation. I know the dirt it has done to my people, and basically anyone in the working class. I'm not blind to injustice nor am I blind to progress. A lot of progress has been made but it seems as if our buddies on the opposite side of the aisle only want to focus on one side.

Everyday they are calling us racists, Nazis, fascists and so on. I give up trying to argue with them. It's mocking or ignoring from here on out. We say we like Sam as Falcon [RACIST] We say we like our country despite it's many flaws because no nation is perfect [RACIST] Can we please stop talking about race so damn much on here [RACIST]

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DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 7:36 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - This is all a damn shame too because I really like Mackie as an actor. He seems like a genuinely good dude.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/28/2025, 7:47 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Captain America: Winter Soldier, Cap walked away from Government and became a traitor Hunted Villian by the U.S. Government.

Captain America: Civil War your Cap became trader and hunted by U.S. and Iron-Man.

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TheFinestSmack
TheFinestSmack - 1/28/2025, 7:48 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - this is also why Stan had the biggest total film deal with Marvel at the time. I think it was something like 8 films he was contracted to.
CreateNowSlpL8r
CreateNowSlpL8r - 1/28/2025, 8:25 PM
@DarthOmega - It'll bomb but you wont read that here. Disney will lie just like with Strange 2, The Marvels, Antman 3, The Acolyte.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 8:29 PM
@DarthOmega - I know what we have done as a country, but it PALES in comparison to what other countries have done.

They only hate America because we are the ONLY super power left in this world and we run it.

As America goes...the world goes. That's why when America went crazy over the Covid Scamdemic....the world followed suit.

But Bucky's redemption and the fact that he is a super soldier, and closest to Steve Rogers at least make him fit to don the costume.
Anthony Mackie is Falcon and build a great character. Sam Wilson was fantastic...and I could see him leading the Avengers in the future without issue.

Making him Captain African American just doesn't work.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 8:29 PM
@DarthOmega - Yeah, I liked him too, but he's become so political and preachy...and it doesn't fit in with the new Golden Age of the United States.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 8:32 PM
@CreateNowSlpL8r - I actually want them to prove me wrong. I want to watch this thing and be pleasantly surprised. I think it's gonna tank hard. I think it might have some secret cameos and action scenes that might give it some buzz but I don't think it'll be enough. I miss the old MCU but hey, all things must pass
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 8:33 PM
@AllsGood - First off...its "Traitor" not "trader"

Second, Captain America (Steve Rogers) walked away from government oppression. Just like Captain America in the comic book Civil War storyline refused to prescribe to the Superhero Registration Act.

As stated in the Declaration of Independence ""whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive" of the people's unalienable rights, "it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it" and institute a new government in its place"

He was refusing the removal of rights and an oppressive government....which is why the people voted the way they voted this election.

Fighting against an oppressive and abusive government is the most American thing you can do.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 8:39 PM
@TheFinestSmack - Correct. It was 9 films I believe.

Now those contracts do not include cameos or Disney+ shows.

So how many movies that Stan have left?

He was in:
- Captain American the First Avenger (1)
- Winter Soldier (2)
- Ant-Man (cameo) - Didn't count
- Civil War (3)
- Black Panther (cameo)
- Infinity War (4)
- Endgame (5)
- Thunderbolts (6) (coming soon)

So with a 9 picture deal Stan has 3 films left.

That could give him just enough films to make his own Captain America trilogy and complete his redemption arc.

However, he is 42 so three more films with 2 years between each possibly would make him 50 or older by the time he does all 3 of his movies to fulfill his contract.

But with digital de-aging they can do anything.

DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 8:40 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - I freakin missed on here man!
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 8:45 PM
@DarthOmega - What did you miss?
pmackattack
pmackattack - 1/28/2025, 8:46 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - This is such a wild irresponsible take. How any rational adult could think the actor, who has portrayed a military veteran for over 10 years in a wildly popular franchise, is all the sudden anti-american is so silly. He is clearly saying that captain america represents more than america, which makes sense to say to a non-american audience. And then he spoke clearly of the positive traits he does portray. Not only is your take irrational, but it feeds into the current climate of people not being able to have remotely human discourse because they're vilified immediately. At least try not to be lazy. Good grief.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 8:51 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Your sane and accurate takes
pmackattack
pmackattack - 1/28/2025, 8:51 PM
@DarthOmega - I don't think you're a racist or a facist. I think you might not have great reading comprehension or critical analysis. He made one quote, that clearly talked about Captain America not being solely about America, and you've multiple times brought up race, DEI, etc. His take isn't doing that, you are. Do y'all hear yourselves in your echo chamber? Not one person on this thread, not Anthony Mackie, not Marvel have said any of those things about you, and yet you've aligned them to yourself and to the conversation. Maybe you're not talking to the right people. Or listening to the wrong things.
AllsGood
AllsGood - 1/28/2025, 8:58 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - Orange Turd is Dumbing Down America watch how fast he blows up the Economy.

Your Steve Rogers walked away from the title of Captain AMerica. Now he dead or even alive Steve Rogers wouldn't want to be America's Captain America.

The MCU U.S. Government is even in worse shape today than when Steve walked away.
DarthOmega
DarthOmega - 1/28/2025, 9:00 PM
@pmackattack - Have you not been paying attention to the comment section on this site? Here's the prevailing narrative, People here are upset that Captain America is being portrayed as a black man. That's the #1 gripe from the usual suspects. I even pointed out in another article on how he said race is not important. But when the usual suspects are spouting 'Nazi" and "Racist" on damn near every article, I don't think it's a stretch to think that maybe they are bringing race into it. Echo chamber? nah, I think you're barking up the wrong tree with that one.
mountainman
mountainman - 1/28/2025, 9:12 PM
@DarthOmega - I’ve always found it odd when people try to paint the types of terrible things in the US’s past as unique to this country. Slavery had been practiced for all of human history by every race on Earth. The US was one of the first counties to outlaw it. It’s still practiced today in some parts of the world. The overt ways, like the open air slave trade in Libya that has occurred in recent years. Or in less overt ways, like human trafficking. Jim Crow was bad. Discrimination is bad. Lying to and killing native Americans was bad.

But I wasn’t alive during any of those things. I didn’t do that. I’m not going to be lectured by people today about atrocities of the past. Our goal should be to learn and grow, not wallow in it.

Note - I truly can’t see a reason to ascribe Mackie’s statement to specifically be anti-US. It very well could have been a poorly worded way for him to say that he sees this character as being someone that people of any country can look up to. Unless I see a track record of these types of statements, I won’t label him in the problematic actor category that too many of these folks are in these days.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 11:55 PM
@DarthOmega - Oh. Thank you my friend. Much appreciate it.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/28/2025, 11:55 PM
@AllsGood - Are you still trying to play?
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 1/29/2025, 1:52 AM
@TyrantBossMedia - just spitballing here but how about a Captain America trilogy starting with Sam, 2nd is Sam and Bucky--with Bucky taking over the latter half of the movie, and then Bucky leading the final one. One of the 3 films should be an Avengers movie.
rkshuttleworth
rkshuttleworth - 1/29/2025, 2:03 AM
@TyrantBossMedia - Maybe countries like America and its citizens should consider its reputation before the rest of the world. As an outsider, I often see many in America act like the rest of the world is somehow less than. Think about it.
AgentofSH1ELD
AgentofSH1ELD - 1/29/2025, 5:52 AM
@AllsGood - you are an AI generative bot who needs to be deactivated.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/29/2025, 10:08 AM
@Mrtoke - That's what I was hoping would have happened with Falcon and Winter Soldier or a carry over to the end of this current Cap movie.

Because he is not a super soldier and not willing to take the super soldier serum he tried his best but realizes that he just doesn't have the physical strength and stamina of a super soldier, so he resigns the title and shield to Bucky who has since redeemed himself.

Then Sam once again becomes the hero that he embodied perfectly...Falcon.

and if you don't want to abandon his new Falcon sidekick then he takes on a new moniker. Maybe he becomes the live version of Red Wing or a new hero altogether.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/29/2025, 10:09 AM
@rkshuttleworth - We don't care what the rest of the world thinks. We are too busy bailing out other countries, sending them money and protecting them because they are incapable of protecting themselves.

Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 1/29/2025, 4:58 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - I just wanna see Sam dive at full speed with the shield. That will be more impactful the Steve has ever been with the shield. Could probably level and stun a hulk to a degree. But with vibranium wings, he wouldn't even need the shield but will still be cool to see.

I'm all for Bucky becoming Captain America but if I was in the MCU, I'll never fully trust him because someone out there will somehow be able to bring back the Winter Soldier.
TyrantBossMedia
TyrantBossMedia - 1/29/2025, 5:03 PM
@Mrtoke - "more impactful that Steve has ever been with the shield"

http://tenor.com/view/captain-america-hammer-mjolnir-mjollnir-thor-gif-20768085

Okay
Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 1/29/2025, 6:32 PM
@TyrantBossMedia - I mean compared to Steve at running speed. Anybody wielding the hammer is doing that.
Forthas
Forthas - 1/28/2025, 7:00 PM
He spoke very well and captured the true meaning of what it means to be an American...

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