Perspective: The Importance of The Captain America Cast - Part II

Perspective: The Importance of The Captain America Cast - Part II

So hopefully some of you read the first part of the importance of the captain america cast and are curious to what I could possibly dig into this time. If not I hope you check it out anyway.

Editorial Opinion
By LuckyKyd - Mar 24, 2010 04:03 AM EST
Filed Under: Captain America
Source: Perspective: The Importance of The Captain America Cast - Part I

I explained with all my grace and style in the last article(see Perspective: The Importance of The Captain America Cast, link at the end of the article as I do not yet know how to make a link) how important the casting of Captain America is in my opinion or should I say was? Because as we all know by now, and I don't think I'm spoiling anything by saying this, Captain America was casted this past monday. And even though Marvel haven't officially stated anything I think it is safe to go with it.
The lucky guy who gets to wield the shield and punch everyones (in)favourite nazi in the head is no other than The Human Torch aka Chris Evans.
Now, what do I feel about this, do I think that he is capable of carrying this role and did Marvel have any thoughts at all in regards to the importance of the role of Captain America when they casted him.

To answer my first question. I feel good about the choice, I knew from the start and that is what I've always been saying, the casting was gonna dissapoint someone and it would never please more than about 10%(maybe even less) of the fans. That is how important Cap is to us. Which leads me onto the second question.
Yes, I think he is capable of doing the role great honour and frankly I couldn't care less about him being Johnny Storm in the F4 franchise, because it is getting the "boot of re" anyway and it is a property of FOX so it's not part of the universe Marvel Studios is creating.


I think people forget about there reactions to Ryan Reynolds being cast as Hal Jordan. At first people were sceptic but as the news sunk in, a lot of us realized that Ryan could actually pull this off.

Now why do I use this argument. Well, because the two actors remind me off each other. They've both played cocky roles, comedic roles and an officer of the law(Chris in "street kings" and Ryan in "Smokin' aces"). And I have to say they're both good in those roles.
Now I know that for Ryan to go from the roles he has played to Hal Jordan is something different than Chris going from the roles he has played to Steve Rogers. But In my opinion the characters of Hal and Steve aren't really that far from each other, if you look at their sense of justice, their will to victory and compassion for teammates.
What is even more funny is that Ryan Reynolds has portrayed Deadpool(or at least I think that was Deadpool on the silver screen) before his upcoming portrayal of Hal Jordan and Chris Evans has portrayed The Human Torch before his upcoming portrayal of our beloved Captain. So they both know what it is like to adapt a character from the comics and onto the big screen and if you ask me they both did a hell of a job the last time(maybe except for the Barakapool, but you cannot really blame that on Ryan).

Finally my last question. Once again: YES! I'm more than sure that Marvel had a lot of thoughts invested in this particular casting. They know that if the movie goes down the pooper they can just as well stick "The Avengers" up their behind. Because it is not gonna happen without Cap. Without a doubt they are aware of the importance that I stressed out in my other article concerning this subject. I said then that they were not going to cast an unknown and they sure as hell didn't.
Both to fans and to the average moviegoer the name Chris Evans rings a bell. Also as I've already explained the actor they choose should be able to handle drama and action. Something which Chris is not at all a newcomer to. And you can't deny that he has somewhat a resemblance to the star spangled avenger.
If you look at how good Iron Man 2 and Thor are coming along, and take into the equation that they spent this long to cast the right guy for Captain America, I think we can all rest assure that Marvel is doing the right thing.

Now as always I hope you enjoyed diving into the far side of my comic book movie mind. Debate you're own mind in the comment section and remember constructive criticism is always welcomed in my book. So till next time: KEEP ON TRUCKING!
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LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/24/2010, 5:28 AM
Thanks mike, I believe the picture of Cap is actually from the first issue back in the day. And I think Chris has a somewhat striking resemblance to the good ol' classic Steve Roger. He just needs a little dye in his hair and some muscle mass and we're all set.

And I'm pretty proud of myself for making that picture, it's the closest I'll ever come to LEEE's shiny casting pics, lol ;)
DaenerysTargaryen
DaenerysTargaryen - 3/24/2010, 5:38 AM
I have a feeling in a couple of weeks most of the angry fans will accept it that their fan-favorite wasn't choosen and move on. I mean we all can't get what we want. The only way for EVERY SINGLE fan to get what they want is if science finds a way to morph Jensen Ackles, Ryan Mcpartlin, Arm and Hammer, and every other favorite into one perfect person.
Shaman
Shaman - 3/24/2010, 8:08 AM
Very good point, lucky! And great article :))
contrast
contrast - 3/24/2010, 10:10 AM
@dellamorte--watch "Smokin' Aces." The last half of that movie is insanity plus Ryan Reynolds acting serious. He's actually pretty good.
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/24/2010, 10:22 AM
@Shaman: thanks buddy.

@Dellamorte: Well Heath Ledger was in "A Knight's Tale", didn't really scream The Joker to me, but he knocked it out of the park. All actors have been in roles that have little to nothing to do with the characters they are gonna portray in the future. Then they knock one out of the park and people forget all about their former short comings and comedic flop movies, that they made in the past.

Hopefully Chris will knock this one out of the park!!
WingPow
WingPow - 3/24/2010, 10:31 AM
What I want to know is...

How are they going to portray the Red Skull??? Is he going to wear a mask and if so, what kind??

Or will his be a sort of permanent red skull??

Or, will he not even wear a mask?
HelaGood
HelaGood - 3/24/2010, 10:33 AM
@luckykid great article!

and while Evans was not my first choice, and like most everyone else, im hung up on the Johnny Storm thing... but i think he will do GREAT as caps!
HelaGood
HelaGood - 3/24/2010, 10:34 AM
@contrast - smokin aces was awesome!!!

@wingpow - maybe they will do it like ghost rider with a CG Skull head...
Runefyst
Runefyst - 3/24/2010, 10:35 AM
Great article Lucky!

I think most people are perfectly fine with Evans being cast as the Cap. It wasn't everyone's first choice- myself included- but the more I think about it, the more I think he'll be able to nail down the role & give us all the Steve Rogers we wanna see. :)

Can't wait for this movie! :D
SephirothUK
SephirothUK - 3/24/2010, 10:47 AM
In Marvel We Trust
BLADE44
BLADE44 - 3/24/2010, 10:48 AM
Nice article and very GOOD points because to be honest
I dont see Reynolds nor Evans right for these parts.

That's just me and who am I in the world of movie making
...NOBODY. I'll just have to trust that Marvel and whoever is behind the GL film knows better than I do.

Reynolds and Evans do have alot of similarities in their
acting styles and CBM roles they've played and are casted for now.
So maybe the movie execs see something
in the both of them that says LEADER .
Both characters are
well respected in their own universes
it's not like
their begin casted for some
minor league second stringers.

So again lets hope they know better
than others like myself that dont care
for the studio castings for the lead
roles of CAP N GL.
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/24/2010, 10:57 AM
@Wing: Me too, as long as it looks terrifying I guess I'll be okay with which way they choose to apply the mask. As long as they take notes from some off the fan pics and don't reuse the make-up from the old Cap movie, cause that shit was horrifying in all the wrong ways...

@Hela: Well I try ;)

I still think as him as Johnny Storm, it wasn't till I saw "London" that I found out he could actually grow his hair longer than 6mm...lol...

@Rune: Many thanks, I'm starting to realize, though I know there is one we will never win over. And I think we all know who that is. Do I need to say his name? Okay I'll do it anyway: LEEE777 ... I swear to God he is the most stubborn user on CBM(Do you hear me LEEE!!! lololol)

@Blade: Thanks thanks... If you consider the top three contenders for Hal and the top three contenders for Cap, then I think we dodged some major BS-bullets(i.e. Timberlake as Hal or Tatum as Cap)
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/24/2010, 11:12 AM
@Bropous: Thank you very much bud... I cannot speak for everybody, but I think it is starting to sink into the minds of us users that we should be more original and creative and invest more time in our articles and fan fics. And I think it is really good. I have always been of the opinion that we should always focus on making new original stuff and explore the themes, characters, etc. in depth before we start posting articles.

And just for the sake of it - [Frick] Tim Story anyway! Actually [Frick] Fox even more! - So just needed to get that of my chest now I can relax again ;)
punkazzINC
punkazzINC - 3/24/2010, 11:23 AM
I'm impressed. This was a well thought out opinion article, and I have to say that I have no problem with him being Cap. I know everyone likes to bring up two points:
1) He was Johnny Storm. So What? Mickey Rourke was Marv in Sin City and he'll be Whiplash. Halle Berry was Catwoman AND Storm. Doug Jones was the Silver Surfer, Abe Sapien, and if I have MY way The Riddler.

2) Can He Act? Have you seen Street Kings, or Sunshine? He's got talent. Nanny Diaries aside let's not judge them by what their past roles were, let's judge them by their acting ability from those past roles. Heath Ledger didn't bother me in Dark Knight because I thought he was brilliant in Brokeback Mountain AND Monster's Ball.

I Know Tea, Hela, and myself were rooting for Robert Pattinson but c'est la vie

A7
A7 - 3/24/2010, 12:11 PM
Nice article.I admit on both parts when I think of the 2 actors what comes to mind are he cocky roles they are known for which made me a bit skeptic but I do feel a bit more confident in thier acting abilities.
DogsOfWar
DogsOfWar - 3/24/2010, 12:52 PM
Good Stuff Lucky!

You make excellent points. Evans prior roles have nothing to do with this. If he played a role in IM or TIH then it would mean something.

The comics do it all the time (Cap, Robin, etc...), why can't we accept actors in different CBM roles.

StephenStrange
StephenStrange - 3/24/2010, 1:04 PM
lmao! "grace and style"??? rofl
skidz
skidz - 3/24/2010, 1:35 PM
I think Evans actually had to audition for the part, so if he won it that way, I'm willing to take that risk to see if he can pull it off. The same goes for Reynolds, if you want evidence dramatic acting on his part you HAVE to see 'Smokin' Aces'!
Rango
Rango - 3/24/2010, 1:53 PM
A guy who can prevent the screen space being plundered by greats n biggies like Ed NOrton,RDj,Hemsworth should be playing CAP..and I fear Chris Evans would be able to do that..Lewis,Ackles or Sam wud have been perfect.
CAP should have a screen presence..and Evans is too unmanly when compared to rest of the three.CAP is the leader of theteam..ain't he supposed to be like that?..I mean a leader ..
Talontd
Talontd - 3/24/2010, 2:33 PM
@Blade44

You are pure class dude.
You have been vehemently against this casting decision since it was announced, but you have consistently expressed your displeasure with it in such a non-argumentative and optimistic way. I wish LEEE777 would take some notes, because i hate to see such an established user getting attacked....but it's with cause. Just wanted to say props, and that I always look forward to your posts.

Cheers.
Kirbymaniac
Kirbymaniac - 3/24/2010, 3:40 PM
@oscuro michael keaton as batman= bad choice?
you are kiddin, are you?
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/24/2010, 3:51 PM
@A7 & @Dogs: Thanks dudes.

@Darth: I was wondering when somebody would throw that at me haha lmao... I guess I went with that because blood and sweat just sounds a little morbid lol ;D

AshleyWilliams
AshleyWilliams - 3/24/2010, 3:57 PM
I agree. Evans is perfect!
He really has the look!
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/24/2010, 4:38 PM
@Tea: Thanks bud... I realize there have been some farmers hanging out here at CBM. Now I would consider editing it to Tractoring, if you could get me a ride in one of those tractors, I've always wanted to plow through a cornfield in one of those big machines...

continuezero
continuezero - 3/24/2010, 5:38 PM
I am actually a fan of Chris Evans, I think that him and RDJ are gonna be classic. The only issue that I have is whether we as fans are being shafted. It is a known fact that Marvel is very adamant on minimal salaries for their leads. It almost cost them Sam Jackson, (likely a factor in Terrance Howard leaving) and who knows what other impacts this is having. Now I am ok with reduced salaries if that translates back into the film as far as better sfx, actions scenes, a deeper cast as far as names etc...I am all for Evans for Cap and I like the choice alot. He was in fact the best part of FF. My question is how many other actors are we missing out on, or losing due to this strict restraint. I'm not saying pay a ton of money to people that don't deserve it but lets say that a high priced actor ie Sam Jackson was let walk for a few bucks when it would have been more valuable to keep him. I think that Jackson is a perfect Ultimates Fury...and I'd be let down if he ended up walkin because Marvel was being stingy...What actors are we missing out on due to a lack of fair negotiations...?
gunner
gunner - 3/24/2010, 5:39 PM
Thank You !!!
Good Article !!
r0r5ch4ch84
r0r5ch4ch84 - 3/24/2010, 8:18 PM
No....**shakes his head** No-NO!...[frick]'em. I've lost a little faith in Marvel now. Being the bitch of the mouse has twisted their minds. **shakes his head...a LOT**
This is a shameful year for the CBM world when somebody who doesn't have the face or chops to play one of the greats... Chris is going to be for Marvel's Captain America what Brandon Routh was for Superman. The only people who are going to like the movie who know NOTHING about the hero, the story or the way he looks and is only going to go ga-ga because of how the ACTOR looks, not the character he's playing.
Ryan McPartlin with some heavy training would have been just perfect, and Armie Hammer would have been glorious...
But--*tsk* since when has Hollywood and a Big comic book company actually worked perfectly well together except for on very few titles.
For examples, Batman (most recent only), Iron Man, and The Incredible Hulk(again,, most recent. I hear really great stuff about Kick-Ass, though).
LuckyKyd
LuckyKyd - 3/25/2010, 7:43 AM
@Tea: Now you're talking I'll go change to some overalls pronto...lol ;D

@Gunner: No problem, but really thank you ;)

@r0r: I hear you there, Armie Hammer and McPartlin looked the part for sure, but Arm & Hammer wasn't even considered and McPartlin was cut off the short(long)list a long time ago.
And if you by Chris being what Routh was to Superman, then I don't blame it on him, I blame it on Johnston and the writers, cause those were the people who [frick]ed up Superman, not Routh...
And I for one am not gonna go ga-ga(whatever that means) over Chris because of looks. I want him to put every acting fiber into this.

I don't know if you read the first part for this article, but I stress out that the movie should have just as many if not more dramatic acting moments where we connect with characters as it should have action. You can click the link in my article or right HERE (That's right I figured out how to link, Yippie!!)
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