MARVEL STUDIOs' Post Phase-2: Where do they go from here?

Marvel Studios' Phase-1 is in the books, and we know what's coming for Phase-2. But what about Phase-3 and beyond? Well, let's talk about that...

Editorial Opinion
By Citizen - May 09, 2013 05:05 PM EST
Filed Under: Marvel Comics

(Full disclosure...this is my first article post on CBM, so please excuse the lack of bells and whistles (pictures) and whatnot. We'll see how this one goes and go from there.)

There’s no denying the success of Marvel Studios’ Phase-1 movies. Every film turned a profit; Iron Man, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America: The First Avenger, and The Avengers. They played their cards right when they included the “after credits” scene in Iron Man, with Samuel Jackson’s Nick Fury talking to Tony Stark about the Avengers Initiative. Don’t kid yourself…when you saw that scene you got giddy.

Even Nolanites giggled.

Now we’re into Marvel’s Phase-2, beginning with Iron Man 3, followed by Thor: The Dark Worlds, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, The Guardians of the Galaxy, and finally Avengers 2 (tentative title), and that’s great. Throw a rock in a room full of comic book nerds/geeks like us and I doubt it’ll hit anyone not pumped for that schedule. The question is: Where do they go from there? If Phase-1 and Phase-2 ultimately culminate with the Avengers, and having Ant Man kickoff Phase-3 is probably a clear indicator that it too is going to end with Avengers (3), then what’s next?

First, let’s look at some of the governing factors related to that question.

Marvel Studios has said that their plan is to produce two movies a year, going forward. That’s great, but it also limits their (and by association, our) options. Phase-1 gave us six movies, while it appears Phase-2 will end with five films, including the wrap up to the Iron Man trilogy, leaving Phase-3 to possibly close out the Thor and Captain America trilogies.

Another factor is properties coming back home to Marvel, such as Daredevil, Blade and Ghost Rider, while other properties, such as Doctor Strange and the Black Panther wait in the wings to be made. My point is, with so many characters available, there’s only so much Marvel can do based on their “two movies a year” and five to six movies per phase schedule. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, in fact I think it’s actually good for us as fans (an MCU movie every six months—be still my beating heart), it’s just the reality we have to understand and to a degree embrace, as our expectations begin to grow.

And finally, I would think character bankability would be another contributing factor, an issue that will soon be answered with the release of 2014’s Guardians of the Galaxy. If that puppy does good, all bets are probably off as too which characters Marvel trots out into theaters going forward, meaning it could just about be anybody—within reason. In other words, Night Thrasher fans shouldn’t get too worked up about a possible solo film right now.

Phase-1 is done, and brilliantly I might add, and we know what’s in store for us in Phase-2. Looking ahead, Feige recently stated that Marvel was leaning toward solo films of new characters for Phase-3, ending with Avengers 3. If that’s the case, that means Thor 3 and Captain America 3 won’t come around until Phase-4 at the earliest, which isn’t bad news necessarily, but I’m sure a lot of us were hoping to see those two trilogies wrapped up sooner than later as well. So it goes. No harm, no foul, as they say.

So if Phase-3 is going to be mostly solo films, what’s Marvel’s plan? We already know about Ant Man and Doctor Strange, and Avengers 3, but what about the other two or three films? Well, according to recent reports, there’s a Black Panther script in the works, so that could be one. And I can already see a post-credit scene of Captain America talking to T’Challa about the Avengers in that one—at least in my mind, anyway. If it happens, that makes four Phase-3 movies, leaving (probably) one or (possibly) two. I’m probably going out on a limb here, but my guess would be Iron Fist and/or Luke Cage: Hero for Hire.

Imagine getting 70’s vibe Iron Fist and Luke Cage movies in Phase-3, and then Heroes for Hire in Phase-4. I’d be down for that, most definitely. But after that, where could Marvel Studios go? Daredevil? Ghost Rider? Blade? Ant Man/Giant Man/Yellow Jacket sequels? The Defenders? There’s a lot of untapped material in Marvel’s vault, so a lack of characters and story arcs shouldn’t be a problem.

If Guardians of the Galaxy proves to be hit, or at least makes some serious bank, you know we’ll get a sequel or two from that franchise. As for the Avengers, would any of us complain if we got a movie from that franchise every phase for the foreseeable future? I’m in. They could go against the Masters of Evil, the Squadron Sinister (which later became the Squadron Supreme—another possible franchise), Ultron and the Kree/Skrull War. Rumor has it Avengers 2 will NOT be about them facing off against Thanos (which will probably happen in Phase-3/Avengers 3), so there’s six movies right there (counting their first movie). But after that, what should we expect in Phase-4, 5 and 6?

My guess is future phases will hinge on next year’s Guardians of the Galaxy. If Marvel Studios does it right AND market it right, we should be good to go. We may have to wait six years or so to see the fourth installment of Iron Man, Thor and/or Captain America, as well as Avengers, but would that be a bad thing? I think maybe not. Imagine a Marvel Studios movie every six months or so. In what world does that sound like a bad thing? Good grief, my knees just gave out at the thought. We’re living in good times, my friends. The heroes we grew up with and have followed for years are coming to life, right before our eyes. From a geek’s standpoint, it just doesn’t get any better than this.

Now post your preferences for Marvel’s Phase-3 movies and beyond.

I’m Citizen…

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MrSundayMovies
MrSundayMovies - 5/9/2013, 6:03 PM
Well done mate this is a good read.
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/9/2013, 6:52 PM
Phase 3:

Ant-Man
Captain America 3
Daredevil
Hulk 2 (not planet or world war hulk)
Thor 3

Then either Black Panther or Punisher. Though I'd prefer Punisher.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/9/2013, 7:04 PM
Phase 3

-ant-man
-dr.strange
-captain america 3
-thor 3

-the avengers 3

i hope we see daredevil & the hulk added to phase 3,i would also like to see more cosmic heroes i.e nova & the inhumans.
Citizen
Citizen - 5/9/2013, 7:47 PM
Regarding Black Panther...

This past Christmas I saw a set of Avengers and random Marvel character figure sets at a Disney store. Grown man that I am, I still gushed over the sets like a little school boy. My wife and daughter gave me both sets for Christmas and I was very thankful. After Christmas, I went back to the Disney store to buy the Avengers set for my two-year-old grandson and immediately noticed something different.

In my Avengers set (pre-Christmas), the Hulk was included. In the set I bought for my grandson, Hulk was replaced by the Black Panther.

I'm not saying it means anything, but I did find that interesting.

Nice suggestions for Phase-3, but what about Phase-4 and down the road? Don't be shy, guys and girls...go out on a limb and say what you'd like to see.
xRelentlessx
xRelentlessx - 5/9/2013, 7:57 PM
I'd rather see a female led film than another Iron Man, Thor, or Cap. Bring on Carol Danvers!
BestoftheBestfan4life
BestoftheBestfan4life - 5/9/2013, 8:32 PM
I like the ideas... but I'm gonna go ahead and say what everyone is thinking... WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET A ROM TRILOGY!!! I NEED MY SPACE NIGHT FIX!!!!!!
GuardianDevil
GuardianDevil - 5/9/2013, 11:49 PM
Phase 4....

Seeing as Cap and Thor would most likely have trilogies, I think it'd be good to stop it there. To open up for other characters.

I could go for some Hercules, Daredevil (if he doesn't get a phase 3) or perhaps Namor.
Ocelot
Ocelot - 5/10/2013, 2:21 AM
What I honestly think phase 3 will include

Ant-Man (2015)
Dr Strange (2016)
Thor 3 (2016)
Captain America 3 (2017)
Inhumans (2017)
Guardians Of the Galaxy 2 or Ms Marvel (2018)
Avengers 2 (2018)

How I would want it to go

Ant-Man (2015)
Dr Strange (2016)
Thor 3 (2016)
Heroes for hire (2017)
Iron Man 4 (2017)
Inhumans (2018)
The Avengers 3 (2018)
7166charlie
7166charlie - 5/10/2013, 6:31 AM
Phase 3

Ant-Man
Dr Strange
Cap 3
Black Panther
Avengers 3
THIS
THIS - 5/10/2013, 5:23 PM
What I would like Phase 3 to be:
Ant-Man
Hulk 2
Dr. Strange
Captain America 3
War Machine
Avengers 3

What's probably gonna happen for Phase 3:
Ant-Man
Captain America 3
Thor 3
Iron Man 4
Dr. Strange
Avengers 3

I seriously, seriously do not want to see another Thor movie in Phase 3. Phase 4, sure. But they need to use Phase 3 to either introduce new characters or develop other characters that need justice, such as Hulk or War Machine.
Also, Marvel needs to realize that there is much more to Marvel than the Avengers. Everything can culminate in an Avengers movie, but the Marvel world does not revolve around them. That's why I would like to see a non-Avengers movie in Phase 3, such as Daredevil, Ghost Rider or The Runaways. And yes, I know they're doing Guardians of the Galaxy but that is a direct tie-in to Avengers 2.

And I really wish Black Widow and Hawkeye weren't gonna be in Avengers 2. They're making the roster bigger, not rotating it. Ugh.

Rant, done.
THIS
THIS - 5/10/2013, 5:26 PM
Oh, and while I do want a Hulk movie in Phase 3, I do NOT want him in Avengers 3.
brazilianbatman
brazilianbatman - 5/10/2013, 9:13 PM
let's assume we get Avengers 3, 3 years after the second movie we could probably get 5 movies before Avengers 3, but I would like to add one more. By assing 1 more we would have to have a year with 3 marvel movies.

here is what I would like to see assuming Antman and Doctor Strange are already in .

Antman(2015)
Doctor Strange(2016)
Incredible Hulk 2(2016)
Thor 3 (2017)
Captain America(2017)
Black Panther(2017)
Avengers 3(2018)

brazilianbatman
brazilianbatman - 5/10/2013, 9:16 PM
adding one more*
brazilianbatman
brazilianbatman - 5/10/2013, 9:25 PM
phase 4 could have Iron Man 4 with a different actor or the same old Robert Downey Jr.

I am not sure if I want to see Die Hard Style with a 60 years old hero or James Bond recasting style. I think using Die Hard style would be a a good idea if they have a plan to finish and wrap the franchise for forever. I don't see this happening(but I wish) that's why they would probably recycle younger actors
if I had to choose somebody it would be Collin ferrel who I think could pull out a great tony stark plus he looks more like rober downey jr, than terrance howard look like don cheaddle. the age situation is also good, colin ferrel is about 10 years younger then downey but he would still be older than cap for example.


other movies in phase 4 that I would like to see would be Daredevil, Hero For Hire,Incredible Hulk 3 and whatever Marvel thinks is right to do.. Inhumans? I hve no idea about what this is about.
inkslinger616
inkslinger616 - 5/10/2013, 10:07 PM
"Jessica Drew agent of HYDRA!!" Fury sending her undercover to infiltrate HYDRA....awesome!
LegendaryOutlaw
LegendaryOutlaw - 5/11/2013, 2:26 PM
I'm okay with it as long as Iron Man is still included and none of the movies are based on in the past like the 70's or 80's.
LegendaryOutlaw
LegendaryOutlaw - 5/11/2013, 2:32 PM
Also instead of Avengers 4,5, and 6 there could be New Avengers 1,2, and 3 or other story arcs (i.e. Civil War, Infinity Gauntlet, and/or planet hulk.)
brazilianbatman
brazilianbatman - 5/12/2013, 6:15 AM
deadpool@ I m not a comic pro but I think marvel should do civil war after Hulk, maybe a two part movie called marvel's civil war or just civil war.
dezdigi
dezdigi - 5/13/2013, 2:46 PM
If only Marvel owned the rights to FF and Silver Surfer, then I could get a little more excited for Phase 3.
Doc Strange sounds cool though.
Citizen
Citizen - 5/13/2013, 6:43 PM
Regarding Civil War, my guess is it'll be a phase all to its own. As for which phase Marvel would pull the Civil War trigger, I doubt it comes before Phase-5.

I say that because Phase-3 is probably going to be more new characters (Black Panther, anyone?), with Thanos taking on the Avengers at the end, and Phase-4 is probably going to wrap up the Thor and Captain America trilogies, and then conclude with the Defenders (Dr. Strange, Hulk and Submariner). I'm just spitballing here, but I think it'll be something along those lines.

I'm not familiar with Civil War (I really need to get the TB this year and catch up), but know enough that they'll have to make some changes due to movie rights of some characters being at other studios. That being said, from what I've seen so far I'm confident they'll hit the nail on the head with what they've got.

If Marvel does in fact bring Luke Cage: Hero for Hire and Iron Fist to the big screen, I'd like to see Heroes for Hire happen in the same phase, or at least be the first movie to kick off the next phase.

But that's just my two cents...
Citizen
Citizen - 5/13/2013, 8:04 PM
Okay, I was a bit distracted when I made that last post, sooo...

What I meant to also touch on was how if Marvel does dedicate a full phase to Civil War, that would be the perfect launch point for recasting Iron Man, Thor and Captain America. (Personally, I hope Ruffalo plays Banner/Hulk for the rest of my life!)

Anyway, that's what I meant to say, so there ya go.
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