So Far, DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Is Built Around A Terrible Storytelling Method

So Far, DAREDEVIL: BORN AGAIN Is Built Around A Terrible Storytelling Method

EDITORIAL: Every episode is fun to watch, but removing characters' core attributes just to bring them back for seemingly no reason is a terrible way to tell a story.

Editorial Opinion
By ChandlerMcniel - Mar 27, 2025 12:03 PM EST
Filed Under: Daredevil

Daredevil: Born Again is not a bad show. I want to start by making that very clear. While it certainly has its flaws, the biggest of which I’ll talk about momentarily, it’s a solid revival of the Netflix series that still differentiates itself from the original show enough to be unique and new. However, its main storytelling method and thematic elements thus far are not a good way to tell a story.

SPOILERS for episodes one through six of Daredevil: Born Again below.

Daredevil: Born Again has two protagonists, in a sense. Daredevil/Matt Murdock is the first. Kingpin/Wilson Fisk is the second. Both of them go through traumatic events that end up changing them fundamentally. In the first episode of Born Again, Matt Murdock’s best friend, Foggy Nelson, is murdered by Bullseye/Benjamin Poindexter. Why exactly Bullseye did this is unknown, but it definitely has something to do with Red Hook. Off screen and in a different show, Wilson Fisk is shot in the face, then has to spend a good bit of time recovering and, even after he was fully recovered, became a recluse of some sort doing something that hasn’t been clarified yet. 

Matt Murdock decides to no longer be Daredevil and Wilson Fisk decides to no longer be Kingpin. Murdock is just a law abiding lawyer and Fisk is just a law abiding mayor. The character’s have been stripped away of their darker halves and set out to be better people. 

Except, from the very first second this was even hinted at, everyone in the audience knew it wouldn’t last.

Slowly, the show has been giving us hints that the two of them never really changed with any sort of permanence. Matt keeps the horn Karen gives him. Fisk’s knuckles are bloody and bruised. Matt can’t help but physically put himself in harm’s way when someone needs saving. Fisk keeps Vanessa’s lover in a cell and eats delicious food in front of him to torture him. Matt suits up to go fight Muse. Fisk gives Vanessa’s lover an axe and forces him to fight him. Slowly, very, very slowly, they are both reverting back to who they were at the beginning of episode one.

The show is called Daredevil. Obviously, Daredevil is not going to permanently give up being Daredevil in a show called Daredevil. Wilson Fisk is the Kingpin. That’s who his character is. Obviously, he is going to return to it. 

What the director and writers of the show seem to be trying to do is go along with the classic theme of “people don’t change” or “you can’t hide from who you are” or any other number of categorical phrases. Stories with those themes, even though they are extremely common, can still be told very well, but there has to be a reason for it. A character must learn something other than they are who they are. There has to at least be a lesson of self acceptance taught or learned. Otherwise, taking away what makes a character who they are or changing them at their core just to make them go back to it is pointless.

So far, the point of taking away Daredevil from Matt Murdock and Kingpin from Wilson Fisk seems solely to be to take them away from the audience as a tool to build narrative suspense. The audience is supposed to think, “Oh my goodness, Matt is going to start being Daredevil again,” and “Fisk is back to being a criminal,” throughout every episode to just be let down. The audience, or, at least me, is left thinking, “Oh well. Maybe I’ll get what I came here for in the next episode.” I came to a show called Daredevil: Born Again to see Daredevil. Of course, I want Matt Murdock too, but not basically exclusively for six episodes straight. The same goes for Kingpin, although his story is much more entertaining. 

Again, Born Again is not a bad show, but there is a major flaw. There’s still three episodes left in season one, so hopefully there will be some sort of reason the characters were stripped of their defining characteristics other than to make the audience wonder when the characters they came for will actually be in the show. Taking away a character’s identity solely to just give it back without there being any sort of valuable lesson learned or development for that character is not a good way to tell stories. Once again, the show isn’t over yet, so this could still be done.

What are your thoughts on Daredevil: Born Again, so far? Let us know in the comments!

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0bstreperous
0bstreperous - 3/27/2025, 12:40 PM
Show is ass that is all.
JacobsLadder
JacobsLadder - 3/27/2025, 12:42 PM
it's built around a terrible script
ARegularCrab
ARegularCrab - 3/27/2025, 12:44 PM
I'm enjoying it. Far more than I would reading anything this guy pumps out
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/27/2025, 12:45 PM
I gave up after episode 2 and so far that looks to have been a wise decision. I don't want this stink on these characters, she/He-Hulk and that Kate Bishop show along with Echo already did enough damage.
Brand0n
Brand0n - 3/27/2025, 1:25 PM
@HashTagSwagg - just say you’re a virgin who doesn’t like shows with female leads and get it over with. We get it bro.
NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 3/27/2025, 2:20 PM
@Brand0n - Damn. XD And the fact he doesn't even bother to reply is telling. Silence is admission.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/27/2025, 5:52 PM
@HashTagSwagg - What damage in Hawkeye or Echo or She-Hulk. Kingpin has always been a big baby who throws tantrums over petty things since the show. Matt had no damage done in She Hulk.
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dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/27/2025, 5:54 PM
@Brand0n - I think that's an assumption, but also, it doesn't mean the person isn't oversensitive about these things. Virginity is a nothing issue to this.

Love and worship God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. God is good. God is love. Jesus is Lord! God worked through Jesus Christ to save our souls. Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins. Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and that God raised Him from the dead and you will be saved. Be baptized in The Holy Spirit, and if He wills, water as well. Repent of your sins, accept God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit into your heart, that Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sins.

BaddestOptics
BaddestOptics - 3/27/2025, 6:06 PM
@dagenspear - your god sucks ass
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/27/2025, 6:12 PM
@BaddestOptics - He's the only God and He is the only good there is. Please get saved. I have seen God act in my life. He saved my soul, changed my heart, changed my mind, helped people through me, took care of people in my life, people I hurt before I found God. God is the only reason I was able to reconcile with my dad before he died.

Not long after I got saved I prayed to God for help understanding the Holy Bible, and that same day someone knocked on my door asking me if I wanted to understand the Bible. I have had times where I was thinking about Holy Bible quotes and have stumbled across them flipping through The Holy Bible at random the same/next day and prayed to God for His joy to grant me comfort in hard times and felt it blessed upon me, and God's blessings of peace that have taken away a lot of my anger. God is here for you if you let Him guide you.

LORD willing, all humans may commit sin of almost every kind (gay, straight), and that's wrong, and all humans sin, as God tells us through the The Holy Bible, "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by His grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." The Holy Bible also says, "If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness."
HashTagSwagg
HashTagSwagg - 3/27/2025, 6:49 PM
@dagenspear - Dardevil looked goofy as shit in She/He-Hulk, was not a fan of the lighter tone that felt almost the opposite of what we'd got with his show, that walk of shame was the icing on the cake, it didn't just look dumb, why would he be casually walking, in costume, in broad day light like that? that's the kinda shit you see in out takes.

Watching Kingpin dressed like a literal clown in the Kate Bishop show ("comic accurate" or not) and then seeing him lose in a physical confrontation to a kid that he could rip apart was just painful to watch. It felt more like how you'd beat a bad guy from home alone, not the damn Kingpin.
Echo just made it worse, Kingpin acts entirely out of character, Fisk can be a rage fuelled child but he keeps it under wraps, not acting out unless its within a controlled environment, in Echo he's beating a dude to death in an alleyway, an alleyway with a lot of windows, there's no attempt to cover the blood, or stop the other guy from making any sounds, hell he's screaming while he's doing it. What happened to the careful monster we got in Daredevil?
By the end of Echo, going into Born Again..... Again we're left with a neutered Kingpin who's been cheated on and betrayed by his wife, his wife who when last we saw her was willing to put herself in danger for his safety. Now that relationship is soured and he now has some other woman we know nothing about telling him what to do and what to say, while Fish is entering rooms literally asking what am I doing here. That isn't the Kingpin.
BaddestOptics
BaddestOptics - 3/27/2025, 6:50 PM
@dagenspear - god is speaking to me right now. He says you're supposed to copy / paste some different nonsense and to stop being a judgmental shithead.
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 3/27/2025, 12:53 PM
no shit.
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 3/27/2025, 12:56 PM
I'm liking the show well enough, not as much as S1-3, but it's alright. But I do agree, I want to see more Daredevil in the show called DAREDEVIL. I like the Matt stuff as much as the next guy, but that's not who I show up for. Although, if it's gonna be constantly CGI'd like they love to do, maybe it's better we don't get much more.

I like Born Again, but S1-3 really shows you we had something special back then.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/27/2025, 3:32 PM
@OrgasmicPotatoe - to be fair not having daredevil in a show called daredevil was a trend in the og show as well. I’m enjoying this season, I’m giving it a pass because the overhauls(episodes 2-7 are the same with only Vanessa scenes reshot and som added additions)
OrgasmicPotatoe
OrgasmicPotatoe - 3/27/2025, 5:52 PM
@Taonrey - I agree that the original show shied away from the superhero bit at times (especially when it comes to costumes), but I don't think we've ever gone 4 episodes in a row without Daredevil. Even the Karen episode had that awesome church fight at the end.

Like you, I'm giving it a pass for S1, but I'm expecting more from S2. And no overhauls this time.
MotherGooseUPus
MotherGooseUPus - 3/27/2025, 12:56 PM
shocked. this show seems to have people completely divided. either you love or hate it, not much middle ground which doesnt make sense to me. personally i love the show so far and am enjoying the slow burn and build up while showcasing Cox and Vin as fantastic actors. i do get some of the hate ive seen but just didnt think it'd be so one side or the other. to each their own i suppose
ChandlerMcniel
ChandlerMcniel - 3/27/2025, 1:29 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - I'd say I'm actually right in the middle ground. I like it. I don't love it or hate it.
Apophis71
Apophis71 - 3/27/2025, 1:51 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - For me action heavy every week gets tired fast more oft than not, there are some characters where that is exactly what you'd expect and it CAN work well but with one like DD the legal eagle, religious and political aspects can be MORE important to Matt's story than kicking butt whilst suited up.

As I said the other day, action heavy is fair for a DD film, not so much with a DD series as his human side is as important as his vigilante side unlike someone like Batman who may go around investigating a lot but ultimately even that is whilst he is Batman, few care about any time with Bruce.
DavidMullich
DavidMullich - 3/27/2025, 3:04 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - I'm in the middle-ground too. Charlie Cox and Vincent D'Onofrio are great, but the story feels like its a jumble of the old showrunners. plan to make a courtroom drama and the new showrunners' plan to make it more like the original Daredevil.
Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/27/2025, 3:33 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - my only real complaint is the unnecessary cgi that episode 1 and 6 had. However that’s an issue with all Disney+ projects
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/27/2025, 5:43 PM
@MotherGooseUPus - I thank God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit, that I'm seeing a non dismissive and non insulting response to people criticizing the show. Way too much of the other here, for me.
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 3/27/2025, 12:59 PM
I think it was bad they hamstrung themselves to the old stuff cause you don’t have a choice but to do this type of story lol
Taonrey
Taonrey - 3/27/2025, 3:34 PM
@ShimmyShimmyYA - disney+ probably wasn’t willing to balloon the budget up so they kinda had to keep some do the old stuff. From my under standing only episode 1, 8 and 9 were completely reshot
ShimmyShimmyYA
ShimmyShimmyYA - 3/28/2025, 12:08 PM
@Taonrey - maybe but I don’t think you need to balloon the budget to make something new. I think they just care too much about nostalgia bait and appeasing the same crowd instead of being bold to try something new which the mcu originally was .

But i also get this was the inevitable outcome of the MCU
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/27/2025, 1:04 PM
Main storytelling red flag is a human character being shot in the eye and miraculously recovers after simply taking some time off. Tf kind of dumb shit is that
TDKRnry88
TDKRnry88 - 3/27/2025, 1:45 PM
@Matchesz - All the stuff Hawkeye & Black Widow survived in this same universe & that's too much? In a universe with magic & aliens? I dunno, man. Plus, I'm pretty sure it followed the comic, so blame the source material.
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/27/2025, 1:51 PM
@TDKRnry88 - Hawkeye is deaf tho and his body is torn up, at least acknowledge it with a scar ? Idk phase 1 held itself to a higher standard I think and didnt copy everything from the comic they picked and chose only the good stuff
supermanrex
supermanrex - 3/27/2025, 2:16 PM
@Matchesz - DO YOU READ COMICS??????
Matchesz
Matchesz - 3/27/2025, 3:06 PM
@supermanrex - bro they change whatever tf they want from the comic anyways literally all of the time.. him getting blasted in the eye and having nothing to show for it is literally retarded
supermanrex
supermanrex - 3/27/2025, 4:41 PM
@Matchesz - My point is that shit happens all the time in the comics. im sure an explanation is pending. we got a weird hint when he ripped his suit he used to fit into. i bet its gonna touch on his size increase.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/27/2025, 5:39 PM
@Matchesz - that's a different show's writing issue to me.
dagenspear
dagenspear - 3/27/2025, 5:41 PM
@TDKRnry88 - They never got shot in the head. Don't take too much issue with it, but I think that's not a fitting comparison.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/27/2025, 1:04 PM
MidDevil.

White Tiger's niece going down into a serial killer's lair with an iPhone is unhinged.
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 3/27/2025, 1:05 PM
@McMurdo - just having an iPhone classes you as unhinged
McMurdo
McMurdo - 3/27/2025, 1:09 PM
@AllsNotGood - yes or a Tesla
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 3/27/2025, 1:04 PM
I mean muse got zero buildup and wasn't fleshed out hardly
AllsNotGood
AllsNotGood - 3/27/2025, 1:06 PM
I much prefer episodic series like the incredible hulk of the 80s
TheTyrantVirus
TheTyrantVirus - 3/27/2025, 1:06 PM
This is such a weird and bad take, and the comments are filled with bad takes to the point where I can't help but question reality. Like, I MUST be watching something different every week. Does my Disney+ account connect to a parallel universe's servers or something? If the original Netflix series didn't already exist, I'm certain that if it came out now it would be getting crapped on too because nobody likes anything anymore.
DrDReturns
DrDReturns - 3/27/2025, 1:13 PM
@TheTyrantVirus - Just read classic Daredevil (especially the run where the show derives its name). This ain't it.
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