James Gunn Confirms George Clooney Will NOT Be The DCU's Batman In THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD

James Gunn Confirms George Clooney Will NOT Be The DCU's Batman In THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD James Gunn Confirms George Clooney Will NOT Be The DCU's Batman In THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD

We probably shouldn't be surprised about this, but DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has finally confirmed that George Clooney won't be reprising the role of Batman in The Brave and the Bold. Check it out!

By JoshWilding - Jul 10, 2023 03:07 PM EST
Filed Under: The Brave and the Bold

Way back in January, new DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn was quoted as saying The Flash would "reset" the DC Extended Universe, setting the stage for the new DCU.

"Everything from [Superman: Legacy] forward will be canon and will be connected," the filmmaker was quoted as saying. "We’re using some actors from the past. We’re not using other actors from the past, but everything from that moment will be connected and consistent."

Since then, the waters have been further muddied, with Blue Beetle supposedly part of the DCU and Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom widely thought to be the final time Jason Momoa plays Arthur Curry before becoming Lobo. Then, there's the way The Flash ends. 

While it initially looks like Barry Allen has fixed his timeline, we later learn that the Scarlet Speedster's decision to help clear his father's name has resulted in another major change to the timeline, with George Clooney's Bruce Wayne replacing Ben Affleck's.

Seeing as Gunn has suggested The Flash would be what creates the DCU, there's been speculation among fans The Brave and the Bold will see Clooney reprise his role as Batman to train his son as Robin. 

Now, the filmmaker has finally confirmed that will not be the case. 

The Flash's closing moments would have been a great place to introduce the new Batman, but it's far too soon for that as the role is nowhere near being cast. Presumably, Gunn meant that The Flash introduces the concept of a Multiverse rather than the hero literally creating the new DCU we'll soon spend time in.

You can check out Gunn's response - from his new Threads account - below.

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HAILHYDRA - 7/10/2023, 3:17 PM
“Some people seem confused”. Yeeeeaaah….. I’m pretty sure no one was confused by that
TheShape9859 - 7/10/2023, 3:55 PM
@HAILHYDRA - some people are stupid enough to assume that he is the new Batman
SATW42 - 7/10/2023, 4:06 PM
@HAILHYDRA - some people here think Josh Wilding collects a paycheck from disney for what he posts on this site, so never underestimate what people can be confused by.
DarthAlgar - 7/10/2023, 4:16 PM
@SATW42 - Josh definitely has Mickey Mouse's dick wedged far down his throat, but he's absolutely not getting paid for it. He just prefers the taste over another, like Bugs Bunny.
ObserverIO - 7/10/2023, 5:00 PM
@HAILHYDRA - Well, Gunn has said repeatedly that The Flash resets the universe and George Clooney is revealed as Bruce Wayne at the end of that universe. Yet Gunn has also stated that he will not be the Batman in Brave and the Bold.

If that's not confusing, I don't know what is.
He's also said that Waller picks up after the cliffhanger at the end of Peacemaker season 1. Peacemaker season 1 featured the Justice League with Ezra as The Flash and Momoa as Aquaman.

But I think I'm getting it now. He said that Superman Legacy will be the true start of the new DCU. And now he says
"Everything from [Superman: Legacy] forward will be canon and will be connected. We’re using some actors from the past. We’re not using other actors from the past, but everything from that moment will be connected and consistent."

That suggests that nothing before Superman Legacy is canon.

So I think maybe my previous Clooneyverse theory might be true.
I think that the Flash rests the DCU into the Clooneyverse and that everything from The Flash to Superman Legacy is Clooneyverse. I also think that we could consider TSS and Peacemaker Clooneyverse since we don't see Batman in there (and I can totally see the Bat Mite thing playing out with Clooney's Batman).

So I would theorize that the following could be considered Clooneyverse:

Batman Forever.
Batman & Robin.
The Suicide Squad.
The Flash (just the end scene and after-credits scene).
Blue Beetle.
Aquaman and the Lost Turd.
Creature Commandos.

Then everything changes in Waller and Superman Legacy is the true reboot.

If you remember the end of Peacemaker...
(SPOILERS if you haven't seen it)

... Waller is exposed to the media. This means that all of her files have probably been leaked to the press, including her files on the Justice League exposing their identities and putting their loved ones in danger, compromising the good they can do.
So maybe Wonder Woman uses the Dream Stone from WW84 to change reality.

It's be neat if they have an emergency meeting at the Hall of Justice for them all to take a vote on it. We could see other non-canon members of the Justice League other than just Ezra, Momoa and Clooney. Maybe Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern and Brandon Routh as Superman? Just spitballing.

But we don't REALLY know what's gong to happen because Gunn hasn't really been too specific about continuity yet. Nobody knows what continuity any of the projects before Superman Legacy are set in. Or what James Gunn means when he says that The Flash resets the DCU.
McMurdo - 7/10/2023, 7:02 PM
@ObserverIO - the only people confused by this and the Flash's ending were Wilding and you. We've been over this.
dagenspear - 7/10/2023, 11:31 PM
@TheShape9859 - Insulting isn't appropriate. I'd find their confusion understandable if they expect events within a movie to have a point to the story going forward.
dagenspear - 7/10/2023, 11:41 PM
@ObserverIO - I think I could've been cool with a continuation of the Burton/Schumacher movies being the Batman status quo, but obviously with an altered structure (making it more of a mix of 89/Forever in vibe and tone and look) due to being merged with other DC elements and a recast for the Batman characters to retcon the events of those movies taking place in more modern times. Maybe Ben Barnes could be Batman? Eh. I don't know.
ObserverIO - 7/11/2023, 4:43 AM
@dagenspear - - '89 and Forever both nailed it. They feel the most like Batman and are the two movies from that series that had widest appeal, commercially.
TheShape9859 - 7/12/2023, 7:06 AM
@dagenspear - if the truth is insulting....oh well
Fares - 7/10/2023, 3:18 PM
Oh shucks
obarium - 7/10/2023, 3:19 PM
No sh*t
MCUKnight11 - 7/10/2023, 3:19 PM
Jon hamm or Jamie dornan for DCU Batman.
emeraldtaurus - 7/10/2023, 4:42 PM
@MCUKnight11 - I'd put big money down Nicholas Hoult has already been cast !
Odin - 7/10/2023, 5:02 PM
@MCUKnight11 - Jon Hamm would've been a great casting choice 10-20 years ago. But now he is just, unfortunately, too old to start out as Batman. He also hasn't been usually that interested in the role, either, even when people started to fancast him during the biggest Mad Men hype. Shame, too. He really would've been near-perfect for the part.
ObserverIO - 7/10/2023, 5:04 PM
@emeraldtaurus - I'm hoping Bill Skarsgard gets it.
McMurdo - 7/10/2023, 7:03 PM
@MCUKnight11 - no and no.
McMurdo - 7/10/2023, 7:03 PM
@emeraldtaurus - you'd lose a lot of big money then.
dagenspear - 7/10/2023, 11:30 PM
@MCUKnight11 - Or Oliver Jackson Cohen or Ethan Peck. Maybe Henry Golding?
FireandBlood - 7/10/2023, 3:21 PM
So what did it reset then buddy? Or was you just taking shit?
JohnPain - 7/10/2023, 3:44 PM
@PlusUltra -

It buried The Flash into the Clooneyverse so they don't need to use him (or the SnyderVerse) any more.

Forthas - 7/10/2023, 3:51 PM
@JohnPain - But the Flash could just run out of that time line....
mastakilla39 - 7/10/2023, 4:08 PM
@PlusUltra - I don't think his film is set after the Flash. He has said that his Superman Legacy is the actual beginning of a new canon. Nothing in the past films will count at all.

Even if an actor reprises the role, its a whole new canon and will have a whole new origin. So we could essentially get 2 wonder woman and aquaman origin films that are completely different and set in 2 separate universes but just played by the same actor. Blue Beetle is already confirmed to be non-canon but the actor will reprise his role in a future film....so if this upcoming films sux, the reboot isn't that far away.
JohnPain - 7/10/2023, 4:29 PM
@Forthas -

Not if he decides to stay which he inevitably will (for the benefit of the franchise).
Forthas - 7/10/2023, 4:49 PM
@JohnPain - That would make no sense - narratively! Ben Affleck's batman is his friend. He has no relationship with Clooney's Batman not to mention the Justice League. It would be odd that he would just let all of that go.
PatientXero - 7/10/2023, 3:23 PM
Well no shit. It was just a fun cameo. My pick is Armie Hammer.
ClintThaHamster - 7/10/2023, 4:06 PM
@PatientXero - The sex cannibal? Yeah, seems like a safe choice.
n1ghtw1ng2832 - 7/10/2023, 3:25 PM
Yeah no shit.
Winston19 - 7/10/2023, 3:27 PM
The confirmation we didn’t need. Don’t flood main with this crap
tmp3 - 7/10/2023, 3:28 PM
Two Batmen running around the same time is such a bad idea
GhostDog - 7/10/2023, 3:31 PM
@tmp3 - the fact that Gunn said they are far away from casting work on BATB makes me wonder if he will let Reeves finish his trilogy before starting development. Seems like a stretch I know, but it’s such a bad idea to have 2 capes crusaders at the same time. Gunn has to see this…you would hope
Th3Batman - 7/10/2023, 3:46 PM
@GhostDog - The Flash just cost WB hundreds of millions of $$$, so I don't think it's a stretch at all to believe that WB will push the breaks on Gunn's plans until after they see how Superman does at the box office. There's also the fact that he picked the flash's director of all people to take over Batman, something that's definitely not happening now.
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