James Gunn Says THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD Has Not Been Delayed: "I'm Not Sure What You're Talking About"

James Gunn Says THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD Has Not Been Delayed: "I'm Not Sure What You're Talking About"

Despite director Andy Muschietti claiming that The Brave and the Bold has been "postponed," DC Studios co-CEO James Gunn has now insisted that there is no delay...

By MarkCassidy - Dec 29, 2024 10:12 AM EST
Filed Under: The Brave and the Bold

During a recent podcast interview, The Brave and the Bold director Andy Muschietti said that the upcoming movie - which will introduce a new actor as the DCU's Batman - has been "postponed a little bit," and that he might helm another project first.

This was followed by the news that Matt Reeves' The Batman sequel had been pushed back a full year, and will not hit theatres until 2027.

There were assumptions that these developments must be connected, with the delays giving Reeves and DC Studios co-head James Gunn more time to figure out how to proceed with these separate universes and decide whether they should make Robert Pattinson the DCU's Dark Knight.

Gunn would later take to social media to claim that The Batman Part II (which will no longer be the film's official title) being pushed was simply down to the script being incomplete, and the Superman director has now said that The Brave and The Bold has not been delayed.

Gunn has previously made it clear that no DCU project will move forward until the script is ready, so technically The Brave and the Bold can't be "delayed" if it had never been ready to begin production in the first place. This does still contradict Muschietti's comments, but we can probably just put it down to crossed wires for the time being.

Even so, rumors persist that The Flash director has been taken off the project.

Last year, we got confirmation that Muschietti had been enlisted to helm the Batman: The Brave and the Bold movie for DC Studios.

“We saw The Flash even before taking the reins at DC Studios, and knew we were in the hands of not only a visionary director but a massive DC fan,” Gunn and Peter Safran said in a joint statement at the time. “It’s a magnificent film – funny, emotional, thrilling – and Andy’s affinity and passion for these characters and this world just resonates through every frame.

So, when it came time to find a director for The Brave and the Bold, there was really only one choice. Luckily, Andy said yes. Barbara signed on to produce with us and we were on our way. They’re an extraordinary team, and we couldn’t have better or more inspiring partners as we embark on this thrilling new adventure in the DCU.”

Then the movie came out!

Though The Flash does have its share of defenders (it sits at a "fresh" 63% on Rotten Tomatoes), it did not perform well at the box office (to say the least), and hyping the film up as "one of the best superhero movies of all time" backfired spectacularly in the eyes of most fans.

For now, we'll just have to wait and see how things progress.

Along with a new take on the Dark Knight, The Brave and the Bold will introduce a very different Robin in the form of Damian Wayne, a "murderous tween raised by assassins who also happens to be the son Batman never knew he had."

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RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/29/2024, 10:21 AM
There you go.
ProfessorWhy
ProfessorWhy - 12/29/2024, 10:22 AM
@RegularPoochie - and wherever you go, there you are
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/29/2024, 10:25 AM
@ProfessorWhy - and wherever you are, rub one out 😌
RegularPoochie
RegularPoochie - 12/29/2024, 11:09 AM
@ProfessorWhy - User Comment Image
harryba11zack
harryba11zack - 12/29/2024, 10:21 AM
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Mrtoke
Mrtoke - 12/29/2024, 10:22 AM
LET ‘EM KNOW!!!
BraveNewClunge
BraveNewClunge - 12/29/2024, 10:24 AM
Get your house in order Mr Gunn!
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 12/29/2024, 10:50 AM
@BraveNewClunge - seems like he dod
Nonameforme
Nonameforme - 12/29/2024, 10:50 AM
@Nonameforme - did even
MasterMix
MasterMix - 12/29/2024, 10:27 AM
There are plenty of great movies that began filming without a finished script.
Clintthahamster
Clintthahamster - 12/29/2024, 10:51 AM
@MasterMix - They exist, but they are few and far between. Changing a finished script while shooting isn't the same thing as starting shooting without a finished third act.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 10:28 AM
Get Matt Reeves to direct Clayface, with Fraser as DP, let him bring in Pattinson for a guest appearance as a last minute suggestion at the end of production (when he's already too deep in the production to resist) and set the rest of the DCU 5-10 years after The Batman.

Brave and the Bold ca then come out whenever it wants as long as Reeves keeps an eye on the continuity and story elements as a producer.

Solutions.
TheJok3r
TheJok3r - 12/29/2024, 11:25 AM
@ObserverIO - Some have suggested to have Reeves' trilogy be set at least a decade before the DCU (before all the superheroes showed up), that way Reeves gets his standalone stories while also working within the DCU. I don't think that's happening, but that would be one way to do it.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 11:55 AM
@TheJok3r - Then we get to have our bat-family cake and eat the solo year one stuff too.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 11:56 AM
Although I would gladly give up the established bat-family for the Battinson stuff to be canon.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/29/2024, 12:44 PM
@ObserverIO - yall are working top hard to make something happen out of nothing. Zero and I mean absolutely zero chance Pattinson becomes DCU bat.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 12:57 PM
@McMurdo - So you're on Reeves side then. Against James Gunn and Pattinson who reportedly want it. You think that Reeves movie is so damn good that it would be sullied by Battinson being in films with lighter tones and more fantastic situations.

Look, I know you hate the Kurt CoBatman or whatever, but under Gunn's guidance he would most certainly adopt the playboy Bruce persona we know and love from the comics and drop the emo-grunge shit like a heavy bag of potatoes on a hot summers day. I'm sure of it.

The only sacrifice would be the established bat-family, but if they just set the DCU events 5 years or so after the events of The Batman movies, you can still have that established bat-family.

I mean the MCU has been set years in the future for a while now. It's do-able. Just say the events of the DCU are in the late 2020s/early 2030s.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/29/2024, 3:01 PM
@ObserverIO - I'm on the side of Reeves getting to do his vision even if it's mostly cringe. And Gunns DCU not being hampered by a bad Batman.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 3:55 PM
@McMurdo - Sharing Batman with the DCU doesn't have to compromise his vision. Lets say he's already written the screenplays for the next two Batman movies (bear with me, I know that's an even more fantastic and out there concept than anything we'll see in James Gunn's Superman) there's no reason he can't still make those movies exactly the way he wants to, all grounded and gritty and whatnot.

Having it be the same universe doesn't change a thing. I don't think James Gunn is suddenly gonna force him to put cameos of superheroes in there or anything.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/29/2024, 4:24 PM
@ObserverIO - Pattinson tarnished the DCU just by being Batman. He's a solid elseworlds Batman but he isn't the comics Batman in the slightest.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 4:34 PM
@McMurdo - He's an idiot and an angsty, spoilt kid (his Batman not Pattinson, lol), but that doesn't mean he has to be an idiot or a child in every movie. He could be much more like the comics Batman in Clayface or Justice League or whatever movie. Hell he might even evolve as a character in The Batman 2.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/29/2024, 4:38 PM
@ObserverIO - but you already have to include the Batman in his Canon unless you plan to ignore it and just make him a different Batman with the same actor. Just doesn't matter because they are simply going to get a new Batman for thr dcu because it just makes sense.
ObserverIO
ObserverIO - 12/29/2024, 4:43 PM
@McMurdo - It'd only really be light canon anyway, like TSS and Peacemaker S1. The Penguin could be seen as canon though I guess. And that show was pretty good.
WakandaTech
WakandaTech - 12/29/2024, 10:28 AM
James Gunn needs to get his shit together

THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 10:35 AM
Can James just do us a favour and stop using his Twitter? This man talks too much. Why can't he take a tip from Kevin Feige and shut the [frick] up? Play the secret game and surprise everyone.

For [frick]s sake
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/29/2024, 10:37 AM
@THEKENDOMAN - He probably figures no buzz is bad buzz, and if all of these movies turn out great, nobody will care in the end.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 10:41 AM
@MarkCassidy - I hear you but it's too much. And this goes beyond if the movies turn out great, what if the movie doesn't turn up at all, then we will be in real shit and it will DCEU all over again.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/29/2024, 10:43 AM
@THEKENDOMAN - I'm glad he is on social media. Rumours are running wild, so he's just putting them down.

Rumours can lead to wrong expectations, and Gunn himself is gonna be held responsible if he doesn't live up to expecations. He's just getting ahead of the curve.
MarkCassidy
MarkCassidy - 12/29/2024, 10:44 AM
@THEKENDOMAN - Yeah I agree that he shouldn't be on social media as much, but from another perspective, at least he is trying to keep the fans updated. The biggest mistake was announcing all these projects in the first place before they were certain to move forward.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 10:50 AM
@bkmeijer1 - Nah, I see your side, but one thing I've learnt about social media is to use it to promote the results and not speculate or engage in nonsense. There will always be rumours, so why engage? DC should respond with announcements, not tweets. Andy has just come out and said Brave and the Bold has been postponed, then James comes out and says it's not, I mean come on, this does look good any way you see it. Everyone needs to shut the [frick] up. You don't see Directors at Marvel, tweetting or engaging in rumours.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 10:55 AM
@MarkCassidy - Exactly, and that's been the problem I've had with him. Why the rush? He could have just waited, got the good scripts approved, got the director and actor attached, secured dates then made a big announcement. Now, that would have been something, instead and it's obvious, he ran before walking and now he is doing catch-up and tweeting.
vectorsigma
vectorsigma - 12/29/2024, 11:01 AM
@THEKENDOMAN -

"You don't see Directors at Marvel, tweetting or engaging in rumours."

Lolz

Because mcu directors are being held in the balls by feige that nothing good comes out of them post endgame.

I for one enjoy the interactions by Gunn with fans and try to maintain integrity by shooting down rumors.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/29/2024, 11:03 AM
@THEKENDOMAN - they're asking Gunn, so he's only responding. Although I guess he got in that position because he's known to engage with fans.

As for Muschietti, I don't think he meant it got postponed again. It already was, so maybe he was just refering to that.
McMurdo
McMurdo - 12/29/2024, 12:45 PM
@THEKENDOMAN - should he also take a tip out of Kevin's hat and greenlight bad films and TV shows?
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 12:46 PM
@vectorsigma - Come on now, they have been held by the balls since the beginning and in need to be real, it worked. Whether movies hhaven'tbeen doing well since ENdgame has nothing to do with not keeping projects a secret till they are ready to go.

To each his own for those who enjoy Gunn's interactions, as for me, I just feel he is doing too much and should keep quiet for now.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 12:48 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Gunn needs to stop, like you said, he's used to it, but remember it talking or tweeting too much that got him fired from Marvel in the first place.

Maybe Andy didn't mean it, but again, why talk about it. This is my problem.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 12:52 PM
@McMurdo - Man, come on. You know what I mean, you guys are confusing working with the element of surprise to keep fans engaged with things that are still being developed.

You're not making a point here.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 12/29/2024, 2:30 PM
@THEKENDOMAN - well, in Gunn's defence it was something he tweeted ten year beforehand. Not something at that time, or even in response to rumours or anything like that for that matter
Arthorious
Arthorious - 12/29/2024, 2:45 PM
@THEKENDOMAN - yeah I agree there are certain things he should stay quiet on and just let the movies do the talking. With that said it’s pretty cool seeing him engage with fans.
THEKENDOMAN
THEKENDOMAN - 12/29/2024, 4:51 PM
@bkmeijer1 - My point is he should stop talking too much. That’s all. Now go see what Chandler just posted.

This is what I’m talking about. He needs to shut the [frick] up
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