RESULTS: Should DC Studios' DCU Have Kept The DCEU's Trinity? Here's What You Decided In Our Recent Poll

RESULTS: Should DC Studios' DCU Have Kept The DCEU's Trinity? Here's What You Decided In Our Recent Poll RESULTS: Should DC Studios' DCU Have Kept The DCEU's Trinity? Here's What You Decided In Our Recent Poll

The debate surrounding DC Studios' DCU plans continues to rage, but do you think this new shared world should have kept Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, and Gal Gadot? Here's what you decided in our recent poll!

By JoshWilding - Sep 30, 2023 11:09 AM EST
Filed Under: DC Studios

It's unfortunate, but the DC Extended Universe is likely to be remembered as a failure on the same level as Universal's ill-fated Dark Universe. 

Warner Bros. made a number of baffling decisions that ultimately doomed the DCEU, though it certainly wasn't all bad. That was particularly the case with casting (who better to play Harley Quinn than Margot Robbie?), many of which were made by Zack Snyder. 

With a reboot now looming courtesy of DC Studios, the newly named DCU looks set to reimagine this shared world but is still going to bring back some familiar faces, with John Cena's Peacemaker, Viola Davis' Amanda Waller, and Xolo Maridueña's Blue Beetle among the confirmed returnees.

However, when it comes to The Trinity, Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman will all look vastly different a few years from now. David Corenswet is the DCU's new Man of Steel, Batman will be recast in Andy Muschietti's The Brave and the Bold, and Wonder be honest, we have no idea what's going on there. 

Gal Gadot has insisted she'd been promised Wonder Woman 3 by Gunn and Peter Safran, only for her claims to later be debunked by a piece in the trades.

A lot of fans are understandably upset as they'd hoped to see Henry Cavill, Ben Affleck, and Gal Gadot continue playing these characters. There would have been a lot of benefits to building a new franchise around the trio, and also some pitfalls, including the negative connotations now associated with the DCEU.

Earlier this month, we asked you,'s readers, to cast your vote on whether you think the DCU should have kept the DCEU's Trinity. 

Thousands of you chimed in and a whopping 62.16% decided, "Yes, there's no way they should be recast." 27.66% went with "No way, it's time for a fresh start," and perhaps most troublingly for James Gunn and Peter Safran, 10.18% said, "Who cares? I'm all DC'd out at this point..."

There's been some confusion about these reboot plans but we're getting a fresh start (mostly) and that's something many fans will need to come to terms with. No matter what happens, Warner Bros. won't ever #RestoreTheSnyderVerse, so this iteration of these heroes has shared the screen for the final time. 

While you're here, don't forget to cast your vote in our other recent DCU poll. We'll be sharing the results from that one soon. 

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HashTagSwagg - 9/30/2023, 11:07 AM
Not judging but it's nice to see that there are only 240 odd special needs people on this site.
ObserverIO - 9/30/2023, 11:23 AM
@HashTagSwagg - In their defence, they don't actually understand what James Gunn is doing, but there was no option for "I don't care if it makes sense yet, let the man cook".

The rest of them just assume it's going to be like JK Simmons in Spider-Man or M in Bond. Yet I really don't think they have any decent reason to believe that.
Also Bond films never contardicted continuity until Casino Royale (and even then it didn't if you subscribe to the whole James Bond is a code name thing).
And the MCU Spider-Man films were an obvious reboot and everyone knew for a fact that they were not the same universe as the Raimi films before JK Simmons showed up.

This is not the case here and I personally believe that The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker Season 1 will be hard canon, which is way more confusing than M in Bond or JK Simmons in Spider-Man.
regularmovieguy - 9/30/2023, 11:29 AM

James Gunn has said TSS isn’t canon to the DCU.
bkmeijer1 - 9/30/2023, 11:46 AM
@HashTagSwagg @ObserverIO - I do understand what they're doing, I just don't agree with it
ObserverIO - 9/30/2023, 2:21 PM
@regularmovieguy - He keeps saying canon starts with CC/SL. But I guarantee you that TSS and Peacemaker Season 1 will retroactively be made canon. They already are. We just don't realise it yet. But Gunn knows it. He's known it all along.

In fact I would go as far as saying that the only reason James Gunn decided to present us with a pre-existing universe full of already established superheroes is to enable TSS and Peacemaker to be canon.

The superheroes that will appear in Legacy are said (by Gunn his good self) to be Superman's metahuman workmates. So we can probably infer from this that all these superheroes have already teamed up long before Legacy begins and that the Justice League already exist.
Because he needs that scene at the end of Peacemaker to be canon.
regularmovieguy - 9/30/2023, 3:11 PM

Bruh… he’s already confirmed TSS isn’t canon.

“ The superheroes that will appear in Legacy are said (by Gunn his good self) to be Superman's metahuman workmates. So we can probably infer from this that all these superheroes have already teamed up long before Legacy begins and that the Justice League already exist.”

None of the superheroes in Legacy have teamed up with Superman or have been introduced in the DCEU. Not sure why that would confirm TSS is canon all of the sudden.
ObserverIO - 9/30/2023, 3:22 PM
@regularmovieguy - He's not said that TSS isn't canon, he's said that canon begins with Legacy, in response to someone wondering whether or not TSS was canon (specifically Nathan Fillion's TDK).

Trust me, I'll be right. TSS will be hard canon.

Also, I was talking about how the Justice League probably already exist in order for the scene at the end of Peacemaker to be canon. I say it right afterwards.
WEAPONXOXOXO - 9/30/2023, 6:17 PM
@HashTagSwagg - Are you one of them? Or are you just a fat [frick] that likes to smell your mother's period from a glass?
HashTagSwagg - 9/30/2023, 11:16 PM
@WEAPONXOXOXO - I'm gonna tell my mom on you!
regularmovieguy - 10/1/2023, 5:21 PM

Fillion is playing a completely different character in Superman Legacy. Gunn confirmed in the DCEU timeline TDK survived. That in itself should tell you TSS won't be "hard canon."
ObserverIO - 10/2/2023, 5:02 AM
@regularmovieguy - Should maybe, but doesn't. Multiple actors can play multiple parts in one franchise. In the MCU Michelle Yeoh played Aleta Ogord in GOTG 2, then she played Shang Chi's mom in Shang Chi and then came back for GOTG 3.

Gemma Chan played both Minn-Erva in Captain Marvel and Sersi in Eternals.

There are other examples. Mostly Asians for some reason. I do realise that Nathan Fillion is not Asian, but I don't think that makes him exempt from this practice at all.

Heck Jack Nicholson was both the POTUS and a Vegas hustler in Mars Attacks.
regularmovieguy - 10/2/2023, 7:55 AM

Not sure how many hints you need, bro, but lmao.
KyoShiRo330 - 9/30/2023, 11:08 AM
They should have done ZSJL 2 & 3 then reboot with a proper Flashpoint. Everyone would be happy like that.
Th3Batman - 9/30/2023, 11:16 AM
@KyoShiRo330 - They allowed him to make not one, not two, but three movies, all of which under performed. Actually, 4 if you count Watchmen which outright flopped.
CorndogBurglar - 9/30/2023, 11:18 AM
@Th3Batman - Watchmen was at least a good movie though.
KyoShiRo330 - 9/30/2023, 11:19 AM
@Th3Batman - This has been debunked by none other than the former WB president. But yeah, you probably know better, right?

And when you see how much they've made since getting rid of Snyder, he should have stayed.
CorndogBurglar - 9/30/2023, 11:21 AM
@KyoShiRo330 - No matter what they did, the High Cult of Snyder would have been pissed if Snyder was taken away.

They say they just wanted him to be able to finish his JL trilogy, but if they HAD done that, then the Snyder Cult would have just been pissed when he got removed afterwards. With them it isn't about the projects. It's all about their Almighty Lord and Savior, Zachary Cornelius Snyder.
Jrazz - 9/30/2023, 11:24 AM
@KyoShiRo330 - I think it's more the nonchalance in which folks say "why didn't they just let him make 2 & 3 and then reboot" as if it's some drop in the bucket in both time and money.

You're talking about a commitment of multiple years (because they're not going to do an IW/Endgame level event concurrently with trying to kick off a new universe) and probably about a half a BILLION dollars in budget.

If you personally think that's the route DC should have taken, that's fine. But to act like it ain't no big thing is laughable.
ObserverIO - 9/30/2023, 11:26 AM
@KyoShiRo330 - I would have settled for simply using Flashpoint to reboot things and make it all less confusing. Instead, Gunn chose to drop Clooney in there, instead of delaying the film and showing us a new Barry and the DCU Bruce.
Th3Batman - 9/30/2023, 11:57 AM
@KyoShiRo330 - I said under perform, not flop.
TheSuperMex - 9/30/2023, 12:00 PM
@KyoShiRo330 - evil Superman and having Lois and Bruce have a kid would be dumb so I’m glad it didn’t happen.
BIGBMH - 9/30/2023, 12:27 PM
@ObserverIO - It's confusing to me that people who like this universe wanted Flashpoint to completely reboot it. At least this way, that universe is still in existence, allowing for multiversal guest appearances in the new DCU the way we've seen in the recent MCU. All these actors that people are so attached to could theoretically come back in some sort of Crisis movie eventually.

I personally have 0 investment in the actors or story of this universe, but if I did, I'd prefer it to not be entirely erased just for the sake of forced closure.
ObserverIO - 9/30/2023, 2:30 PM
@BIGBMH - I haven't quite invested in a DC cinematic universe in the same way Snyder fans invested in the Snyderverse, so it's not really my thing either.

But the way DC does things in the comics is that whenever the timeline is rebooted, the previous timeline becomes it's own universe somewhere. It gets preserved. So even if Flashpoint replaced the Snyderverse with the DCU, the Snyderverse would then just become it's own alternate universe.
Nightwing1015 - 9/30/2023, 9:29 PM
@BIGBMH - that could still happen if they did a full reboot. The pre-flashpoint characters eventually returned in the comics anyway despite the “reboot” - same could happen in the movies
BIGBMH - 10/3/2023, 7:17 PM
@ObserverIO - Oh, interesting. Seems a bit counterintuitive though. We generally accept that there are already alternate universes. We don't need an event to explain why one of those exists unless it's an alteration or combination of previously established universes that will no longer be around.

If we're just shifting perspective to another universe, we might as well do that the way it has typically been done in superhero franchises like Spider-man. Just start the story and we'll understand it's a new universe.
Murderisbadong - 9/30/2023, 11:26 AM
If Zack Synder actually wrote a good movie, I’d probably say yes they should have allowed them to finish the DCEU. But I could shit out a better script after eating a McGriddle.
bobevanz - 9/30/2023, 11:32 AM
I voted yes, because I'm tired of this taped up and hit glued dceu BS. So idc just move the [frick] on. I also support Marvel rebooting after Secret Wars. Maybe next time don't start with all your A List heroes and then 10 years later they're dead or retired lmao
bobevanz - 9/30/2023, 11:32 AM
MosquitoFarmer - 9/30/2023, 11:45 AM
Can't help but still find it funny how sour some folks at Warner Brothers were to the positive response to the Snyder Cut, both being initially announced and reviewed upon release. So petty.
Izaizaiza - 9/30/2023, 11:50 AM
It was definitely time to recast the Trinity, and reboot the universe. It is a shame, because all three could have been great in their roles, but as it turned out only one of them, Gal in the first Wonder Woman, got to play their role in a good movie.
TheSuperMex - 9/30/2023, 12:02 PM
I don’t know, I just want good/great movies.
MaxPaint - 9/30/2023, 12:40 PM
@TheSuperMex - How dare you..
TheSuperMex - 9/30/2023, 1:37 PM
@MaxPaint - lol after so many bad movies I gave up on caring about a cohesive universe.
ObserverIO - 9/30/2023, 2:36 PM
@TheSuperMex - I'm gonna stop caring when Superman Legacy comes out. I'm just waiting for the death knell on my hopes. James Gunn will put the final nail in the coffin of all my hopes and dreams for a DC cinematic universe that actually works. And I can't wait to be rid. No more hope, sure, but no more disappointment either.

Save me James Gunn. Save me from caring about DC ever again, lol.
DocSpock - 9/30/2023, 12:16 PM

Snyder has made some good movies.

But his work on the DCFU was just a disaster. They should not keep ANY part of the Snyderverse.

Yes, there is a small, but incredibly LOUD minority of Snyderhead cultists that scream in the dark for his return. But this is just a CBM version of the tail trying to wag the dog.

It is so past time to move on from all that.

BIGBMH - 9/30/2023, 12:34 PM
Gal was ok, but the limits of her acting have really become apparent in WW84 and her recent cameos. I wouldn't say that she was terrible, but it's not difficult to image her being bested by the next actress.

IMO, Cavill and Affleck have already been topped by Hoechlin and Pattinson. So this idea of them being irreplaceable and impossible to improve upon is silly.

Overall, I'm fairly confident that the next version of the trinity will be generally better-liked than this one, even if they don't inspire the cultish love that the Snyder fan base had for Cavill and Affleck. Superman and Wonder Woman will probably win people over fairly quickly. Batman might have a harder time because they'll have to win over both the Affleck and Pattinson fans with this new vision, but 2/3 being considered an improvement would be a success.
Radders - 10/2/2023, 8:46 AM
@BIGBMH - Gal isn't a great actor but I felt she embodied the spirit of the character

I wouldn't say Pattinson was better than Affleck, I found him very one note though it's difficult to judge given Affleck And Cavill had to deal with being in the Snyderverse
Patient2670 - 9/30/2023, 12:41 PM
The only thing continuing this futile debate, is Josh. And when he says the trinity will look vastly different, Has he seen David Cornsweet? Batman and Wonder Woman are going to look like Batman and Wonder Woman. Personally, I liked what Snyder did. That said, I actually look forward to what someone else does. These are characters that have been interpreted by hundreds of writers, artists, actors and directors over the long histories. Even when they don't give me the version that "I would have done or wanted", it's always cool to see something new or different. Besides, other than a forum like this one, we don't get a vote until it comes time to buy a ticket or not.
SolarSoldier - 10/1/2023, 1:37 AM
@Patient2670 - Have YOU seen David Cornsweet? He does NOT look like Superman! Y'all get mad at side characters nobody cared about not being white, but when white people are casted, y'all act strange. David Cornsweet doesn't look like he grew up on a farm. I've watched Lois & Clark, Smallville, (heck..even Superboy which isn't related), the Superman animated series(which people seem to forget existed and only acknowledge BTAS and JL) and the two worst looking Supermen are: Tyler Hoechlin and this Cornsweet guy.

When Tyler played a dark version of Superman in the CW crossover episodes, he looked great. Because he has a menacing and villainous face. If you think David Cornsweet looks like Truth, Justice and The American Way, you Sir need glasses.

He looks like a spindly one-off Batman villain, not Clark Kent!
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