Just As Peter Docter Touts Pixar's Internal Enthusiasm For Original Stories ELIO Flounders At The Box Office

Just As Peter Docter Touts Pixar's Internal Enthusiasm For Original Stories ELIO Flounders At The Box Office

Pixar CCO Peter Docter highlights the challenge of predicting future trends and emphasizes the studio’s desire to focus on original stories versus becoming trapped in an endless cycle of sequels.

By MarkJulian - Jun 26, 2025 01:06 AM EST
Filed Under: Disney
Source: Toonado.com

Aside from the odd blockbuster here and there, movie theaters are generally not seeing the same number of people buying tickets as they did before the COVID-19 pandemic.

It's within this challenging landscape that Pixar has released its latest original film, Elio, which has now infamously opened as the lowest-grossing Pixar film of all-time, despite glowing reviews.

Prior to the film's release, Pixar Chief Creative Officer Peter Docter was a special guest at Fast Company's Most Innovative Companies Summit, where he acknowledged the shift in the movie industry. “It’s a rough time, and all we can do is try to make movies that I think are led by us. We have to believe in them.” 

He later added, “It takes as much work and effort to make something that doesn’t make money as it does for something that does. And you can’t really plan on this stuff. Sometimes you just hit the right little combinations of things.

Pixar’s Pete Docter recently shared that it typically takes the studio around five years to develop a film from initial idea to final release.

Speaking to attendees, he explained that one of the biggest challenges during that lengthy process is trying to anticipate what themes or stories will still be relavent within the social zeitgeist five years down the line, an unpredictable task given how quickly trends and cultural interests shift.

We have to find out what people want before they know it,” Docter stated. “Because if we just gave them more of what they know, we’d be making Toy Story 27.

Following 2019’s Toy Story 4, Pixar shifted its focus to a string of original films, including Onward, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red. However, due to the pandemic, most of these movies either saw shortened theatrical windows or were released directly to Disney+, limiting their box office potential and broader cultural impact.

Elemental, released in 2023, marked Pixar’s first major post-COVID theatrical release. While it stumbled out of the gate, the film gradually gained traction and eventually inched toward profitability. Now, Pixar is undoubtedly hoping that its upcoming film Elio follows a similar late-blooming success story.

Up next after Elio, is Hoppers, another original tale, and Pixar has another sequel later that summer, in the form of Toy Story 5. The following year sees the release of another original story in the form of Gatto, before Pixar then releases Incredibles 3 and Coco 2.

If Pixar doesn't want to become a studio that exclusively makes sequel, prequels and films based on existing IP, it desperately needs Elio to have an Elemental-like turnaround or for Hoppers or Gatto to become a breakout hit.

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NinnesMBC
NinnesMBC - 6/26/2025, 1:15 AM
This needed more marketing and exposure in order to reach more audiences, but instead they've must spend it for other things like the Lilo & Stitch live-action remake. Therefore this happens even when Elio has been praised by critics and fans alike.

Sucks that when an original thing comes out and people want to support it the only party not actively rooting for it are the powers that be themselves. But maybe this could become a sleeper hit like Elementals was in the long run, one never knows for sure.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 6/26/2025, 1:41 AM
@NinnesMBC - I only saw one trailer for this movie and it was during Thunderbolts*.
Malatrova15
Malatrova15 - 6/26/2025, 1:58 AM
@NinnesMBC - nah …we are good, tired of “Iconic” slop
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/26/2025, 1:21 AM
Okay Hollywood you heard us only make remakes and sequels now. I’m tired of you trying to push new ideas on us. Toy Story 27 isn’t going to make itself.
TheUnworthyThor
TheUnworthyThor - 6/26/2025, 1:23 AM
Actually on second thought maybe with advancements in AI it will.
SonOfAGif
SonOfAGif - 6/26/2025, 1:41 AM
ELIO will do well on Disney+
CamtonoOfBeskar
CamtonoOfBeskar - 6/26/2025, 1:58 AM
Forget chasing trends, the latest trend in the US is to be a Bible thumping Trumper.

Wanna make a movie for that crowd? These people hate art, period.

Just make movies based off of timeless, proven themes.

Turning Red was great.
Waifuslayer2
Waifuslayer2 - 6/26/2025, 2:10 AM
It's because Pixar has insisted on using the ugliest character designs possible.
DTor91
DTor91 - 6/26/2025, 4:53 AM
While what’s said about ticket sales post-Covid lockdowns is true, inflation and marketing are certainly factors to consider as well.

I think the biggest thing working against it though, I truly don’t understand Disney/ Pixar’s thinking in releasing this now. Beyond the fact that it’s a very crowded month as is and will be again next month, this is a film aimed at families and that’s where most of the income will stem from. Families aren’t going to go back to back to back from Lilo & Stitch, to How To Train Your Dragon, and now this. Based on New York prices, assuming that’s families of 3-4, you’re talking potentially $60-80 just for tickets alone, with near weekly releases? That’s quite a lot. I’d imagine if families like that are going, they’re going for one or two of these. Rarely will it be all three. Now a lot of this is based on assumption of course, but I really don’t see the logic at putting this film out at this time. And if it absolutely had to be, marketing failed this big time. I can only speak for myself, I think I only knew about this film when it was announced, and seeing some ads pop up maybe just a week or so prior to its release. I haven’t seen a trailer by choice, and I haven’t stumbled on one anywhere either. Couldn’t even tell you what the premise was.

I think it might also say a lot about the current state of the industry when a Pixar film is buried underneath everything else. But then, Pixar hasn’t exactly had a stellar track record as of late either. Plus, other animation studios have caught up to, and arguably surpassed the quality of Pixar too.

This is also a big reflection on Disney as well. Disney is never going to be starved for money and they’ll make up losses in other areas quite easily, but their three main acquisitions of the modern age- Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm- are all delivering mixed results both in terms of quality and the box office. I think that’s interesting food for thought, and there’s no way there isn’t anyone over at Disney also noticing this.

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