DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS Writer Confirms Gargantos Is NOT Renamed Version Of Shuma-Gorath

DOCTOR STRANGE IN THE MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS Writer Confirms Gargantos Is NOT Renamed Version Of Shuma-Gorath

While there's been a lot of speculation that Gargantos was the Marvel Cinematic Universe's take on Shuma-Gorath, it's now been confirmed that the monster was indeed a separate character. Check it out...

By JoshWilding - Jun 28, 2022 08:06 AM EST
Source: Gamespot

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness kicked off with Stephen Strange and Wong battling it out with a squid-like creature called Gargantos. We'd later learn that the monster had been unleashed by the Scarlet Witch to capture America Chavez, and while there is a comic book character called Gargantos, the belief heading into the sequel was that this was a renamed Shuma-Gorath.

Marvel Studios kept Wanda Maximoff's villainous turn under wraps in marketing and seemingly wanted fans to believe Gargantos would be the big bad, though that proved to be a blatant misdirect.

Gargantos was ultimately dealt with relatively quickly by Strange, and there was a lot of disappointment that might be it for Shuma-Gorath, an incredibly formidable villain in the comic books who has his sights set on controlling the entire Multiverse. Well, it turns out that wasn't Shuma after all. 

Talking during the Director's Commentary for Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, writer Michael Waldron notes, "This is the monster Gargantos, not to be confused with Shuma-Gorath." 

These comments, while brief, should come as a relief to fans.

While there may be some complicated rights issues surrounding the "Shuma-Gorath" name, this would have been a terrible waste of the character and hopefully means we'll still get to see him down the line. Remember, What If...? has teased a gigantic squid-like creature across multiple realities who we're convinced is the real Shuma. 

Whether that means he'll be relegated to animation rather than live-action remains to be seen, but there's certainly a lot the Disney+ series can do with the powerful villain moving forward.

On a related note, the Director's Commentary also revealed that Strange was going to visit another reality and meet a character called Melvin Strange who was a street magician with no actual magical abilities. However, as the scene didn't build tension or raise the sequel's stakes, it was ultimately cut. Fingers crossed Melvin makes an appearance in the not too distant future, eh?

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness is now playing in theaters. It's now available on Digital platforms and Disney+, and hits Blu-ray, 4k Ultra HD, and DVD on July 26. 

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The1st
The1st - 6/28/2022, 8:33 AM
If anything, she figured out how to control/manipulate an avatar of Gorath, or he simply allowed it to see what she'd do, it is chaos magic she wields and Shuma Gorath hails from the chaos dimension. It would be nice if that paid dividends down the line.
Urubrodi
Urubrodi - 6/28/2022, 8:34 AM
Don't see them using the same kind of monster twice. If they use Shuma it will be in What if.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2022, 10:11 AM
@Urubrodi - Yep, I agree with this. And Garagantos in the comics looks very different than this thing. He just looks like a big one eyed octopus in the comics. There's a specific reason they went out of their way to make MCU Gargantos look exactly like Shuma Gorath, only smaller.

Either they have no plans to ever use the actual Shuma Gorath, but also didn't want to make him to look like a puss that got taken out easily, so they changed the name. Or this was one of his henchmen/weaker minions doing his bidding. In which case they may still never use the actual Shuma Gorath.
Origame
Origame - 6/28/2022, 11:32 AM
@Urubrodi - yeah I agree. Might as well be Shuma since he definitely isn't gonna be in any major mcu project moving forward.
VictorAlonzo
VictorAlonzo - 6/28/2022, 8:36 AM
Well hey, at least we can be on the lookout for


...Mel Vin.. . Strange?




inkniron
inkniron - 6/28/2022, 9:10 AM
@VictorAlonzo -
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/28/2022, 8:42 AM
So looks like Gorath, acts like Gorath but not Gorath because …..?


Question: Why didn’t Dr. strange use that great giant saw blade magic that he cut the buss in half with on Gorath/not-Gorath?
Unguviolet
Unguviolet - 6/28/2022, 9:01 AM
@SpaceParanoids - While the saw blade is able to cut through the hardest metal, it is super easy to evade as it only moves in one direction. And I don't think such simple spell could be effective against The Scarlet Witch herself, Mordo, or dr strange variants.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/28/2022, 9:14 AM
@Unguviolet - But it would have been incredibly useful against slow moving Gargantos which was the point of my post.
Unguviolet
Unguviolet - 6/28/2022, 9:32 AM
@SpaceParanoids - probably cause it can only move 3 feet in front of the user.
The1st
The1st - 6/28/2022, 9:45 AM
@SpaceParanoids - Plot armor is both durable...and time consuming.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2022, 10:17 AM
@SpaceParanoids - I mean, if I were Strange I would just use the portal spell he used to cut off Black Dwarf's hand in Infinity War. I would be opening and closing portals on body parts of every villain I fought. I've gotta think no one is durable enough to withstand reality itself closing on their body parts.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 6/28/2022, 10:55 AM
@CorndogBurglar - Yup that too, he used so much amazing magic against Thanos and his minions but he was so limited as were the rest of the Wizards.

I mean, magic cannons and light arrows?

They couldn’t come up with anything better?
Clearly not. The writer (Waldron) didn’t know how to use his imagination to create an amazing fight.
Razorface1
Razorface1 - 6/28/2022, 8:58 AM
Weird how they designed Gargantos to look exactly like Shuma-Gorath instead of Gargantos.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2022, 10:19 AM
@Razorface1 - This was my point exactly. They went out of their way to make him look exactly like Shuma Gorath and not Gargantos.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 6/28/2022, 8:59 AM
I hope that's true. It's gotta be because Shuma-Gorath is a stupidly powerful chaos lord. He wouldn't be taken out so easily.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2022, 9:27 AM
The fact that he was so easy to deal with and was even called something else than Shuma-Gorath was reason enough to believe it wasn't Shuma-Gorath right?
Jacory
Jacory - 6/28/2022, 9:59 AM
@bkmeijer1 - That's what I was thinking. They change names all the time, but Shuma wouldn't have taken an L like that.
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2022, 10:22 AM
@bkmeijer1 - I agree, but they went out of their way to make him look exactly like Shuma Gorath. I'm not sure I understand why.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2022, 11:20 AM
@CorndogBurglar - true, but I feel Shuma Gorath would be much larger if he appears. The huge eye did make him look like Shuma though
CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2022, 12:15 PM
@bkmeijer1 - Yeah, and he SHOULD be much larger. I'm just not sure what they were thinking with this.
bkmeijer1
bkmeijer1 - 6/28/2022, 12:28 PM
@CorndogBurglar - guess they thought "ehh, it's just Gargantos. He doesn't need to be big"

Don't think he would've been able to move through the street of NYC either anyway
WaffeX
WaffeX - 6/28/2022, 9:29 AM
Gargantos looks horrible, very bad CGI like Strange's third eye, but the movie was great

The CGI of the Obelisk in Guardians 2 looked so much better

Scarilian
Scarilian - 6/28/2022, 9:39 AM
@WaffeX -
I feel the CGI teams are stretched too thin nowadays, films like Thor L&T look like absolute garbage most the time with evident bluescreen and flat backgrounds.
PapaSpank54
PapaSpank54 - 6/28/2022, 10:00 AM
Watched MoM finally, I liked when they pulled this fellas eyeball out.
IcePyke
IcePyke - 6/28/2022, 10:18 AM


CorndogBurglar
CorndogBurglar - 6/28/2022, 10:25 AM
@IcePyke - lol.

Gargantos = giant one eyed octopus.

Shuma Gorath = Lovecraftian one eyed tentacle monster.

MCU Gargantos = Lovecraftian one eyed tentacle monster.

Something feels off....
AC1
AC1 - 6/28/2022, 10:23 AM
Anyone else think Melvin Strange could've been Ted Raimi's cameo?
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