DOCTOR STRANGE Sequel Reportedly Cut A Disturbing Origin Story For Earth-838 Scarlet Witch Variant

DOCTOR STRANGE Sequel Reportedly Cut A Disturbing Origin Story For Earth-838 Scarlet Witch Variant

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness featured Wanda Maximoff's Earth-838 counterpart, and a new rumour claims to shed some light on cut scenes exploring this Scarlet Witch's twisted origin story...

By JoshWilding - May 18, 2022 07:05 AM EST
Source: Movie Scope

In multiple interviews, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness star Elizabeth Olsen has expressed interest in exploring what led to Earth-838's Scarlet Witch seemingly being a single parent. She's also hinted that this Wanda isn't quite as powerful as her MCU counterpart, but is this why?

Movie Scope has shared what they claim are details on key scenes from the Doctor Strange sequel revealing a twisted origin story for Earth-838 Wanda that ended up being cut. We're taking this with a pinch of salt, though the story was Retweeted by reliable leaker MyTimeToShineHello.

It's said The Illuminati was once set to be portrayed in a more antagonistic light, and when that world's Doctor Strange tapped into the Darkhold, we would have learned about the Scarlet Witch prophecy. Taking his findings to his teammates, the decision would have been made to lobotomise Wanda to prevent her from ever becoming a being powerful enough to destroy their reality.

Professor X would have been responsible for taking away (or, we presume, dialling down) Wanda's powers, thereby resulting in her being more mom than superhero. Charles was also set to consult with her father, Magneto, and this is reportedly where Michael Fassbender's cameo came in. Supposedly, a villainous Illuminati didn't test well and was too much of a diversion, hence why it was cut.

It definitely sounds like something that could have once been in Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, but it does seem superfluous to the story. As for that Fassbender appearance, we've heard that Marvel Studios shot the unused cameos with stand-ins, so the actor was likely never on set. 

Do you wish this Scarlet Witch subplot had made the cut?

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PantherKing
PantherKing - 5/18/2022, 7:48 AM
Yeah I knew they were villainous
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/18/2022, 7:48 AM
#ReleaseTheRaimiCut
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/18/2022, 10:27 AM
@marvel72 - Word it, the original cut is not that different, the pacing is better because of the extra 40 minutes, but its not a completely different movie.
That completely different movie was scrapped when then fired Derrickson.

Still, I want to see the original Raimi Cut.
marvel72
marvel72 - 5/18/2022, 6:58 PM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Show me the 40 minutes then, release it on Blu-Ray.
comicfan100
comicfan100 - 5/18/2022, 7:49 AM
Yup, that's definitely something the Illuminati would do. (No sarcasm)
UncleHarm1
UncleHarm1 - 5/18/2022, 8:21 AM
@comicfan100 - Where are the other Illuminati members tho? I didn't see Jay-Z or Madonna anywhere
DENNISsystem
DENNISsystem - 5/18/2022, 4:55 PM
@UncleHarm1 - *Gasp!* That’s what LEMONADE was about!!!
Evansly
Evansly - 5/18/2022, 8:06 AM
While I think it would have been an awesome scene, I think it detracts from 838 Wanda being happy with her kids
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/18/2022, 10:30 AM
@Evansly - I still wonder who their father was...
ptick
ptick - 5/18/2022, 11:47 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - I find the whole thing fascinating. Billy and Tommy exist in every universe but 616 Wanda's, right? ... and there was no sign or mention of Vision in 838. Clearly, when Wanda manifested the boys in Wandavision she was pulling them (perhaps unwittingly) from dreams, visions of herself in other universes. My guess is 616 is the *only* universe in which Wanda falls in love with Vision. It's an interesting twist because they've sold us their love story through movies and Wandavision yet it seems to be the exception and ultimately a real wrench into Wanda's happiness - it prevented her from falling in love with, and having the boys with, their father. Even if the dad turned out to be a jackass (or died) in 838 (and in how many other universes), those Wandas ultimately found happiness because of the boys. It's wild stuff when you think about it a bit.
MV081199
MV081199 - 5/18/2022, 8:08 AM
So it is Jean backstory in Last Stand and Dark Phoenix but with Wanda?
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/18/2022, 10:31 AM
@MV081199 - More than likely the reason why the scrapped.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 5/18/2022, 8:09 AM
That actually makes more sense to how the Illuminati would behave.
I wondered why Xavier didn’t interfere to stop Wanda like he often does.

It also would have been a great way to introduce him in Wandavision as I mentioned before. She causes a rift in the multiverse opening it to bring in Pietro (not Bohner) and that gets Xavier access and he steps in to stop her near the climax of Wandavision.

That would have been epic to see.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/18/2022, 10:31 AM
@SpaceParanoids - The Illuminati arent heroes, they are pretty much a fascist regime.
SpaceParanoids
SpaceParanoids - 5/18/2022, 11:55 AM
@TheHumanSpider2 - Precisely. Xavier steps in because he wants to take control away from Wanda. Bad power vs bad power.
OmegaDaGrodd
OmegaDaGrodd - 5/18/2022, 8:11 AM
I'm glad they didn't go this route. The Illuminati were already assholes, we didn't need them to also be villainous assholes, especially since Supreme Strange was already killed off for going off the deep end. There's a randomness that comics have that movies often lose, and I loved how much of the stuff in this movie was due to circumstance, rather than the plot bending to preserve the moral standing of all of its characters
PhoenixBlade
PhoenixBlade - 5/18/2022, 8:32 AM
Questionable morals for the greater good is a theme with various members of the Illuminati. I don’t see why this is too much of a diversion from source material. In fact this is the exact kind of thing Professor X is famous for. The man abuses his power all the time.
Himura
Himura - 5/18/2022, 12:44 PM
@PhoenixBlade - it’s not about being true to the source. It’s about testing well with the audience
PhoenixBlade
PhoenixBlade - 5/18/2022, 4:38 PM
@Himura - Realistically studios need to learn when to listen and not listen to reactions. Fight Club was poorly received before release. BvS was positively received. General audiences would reject 80% of the best arcs in comic books after seeing the first film in the series because they don’t have the vision to look further than one film. Empire Strikes Back was rejected by general audiences too. The Illuminati is very well received in the comics. That’s all the evidence they need for it working. General audiences will accept it after some more developing.
Lokiwasright
Lokiwasright - 5/18/2022, 8:47 AM
The real illuminutty doesn't want to be portrayed somewhat accurately in their films.
QuietStorm
QuietStorm - 5/18/2022, 9:02 AM
THey'll probally add this backstory in season 2. Also, anybody know why they didnt give her this look with her hair in MoM? I've always found it to be much better.
IcePyke
IcePyke - 5/18/2022, 9:10 AM
Fassbender? Meh... 🙄

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👍🤘👌
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/18/2022, 10:32 AM
@IcePyke - She probably want Ian to be her daddy, and Michael to be her "daddy", lol
SerKurtWagner
SerKurtWagner - 5/18/2022, 9:35 AM
"Didn't test well?" OH FOR ***** SAKE! If I were the Scarlet Witch, I'd wipe the concept of test audiences out of these idiot execs heads. The Illuminati are SUPPOSED to be antagonistic! That's THE WHOLE ******* POINT! If they'd gone this route, maybe they wouldn't have been a complete drag on the movie.
Forthas
Forthas - 5/18/2022, 10:20 AM
While this would not be the way to do it, they do need to depower Wanda in some way. I think they need to spell out what powers are inert to her mutant side and what is added by Cthon.
TheHumanSpider2
TheHumanSpider2 - 5/18/2022, 10:26 AM
That is literally what Charles did with Jean in two X-Men movies already?
On the other hand, Fassbender playing Olsen's dad?
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